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Writers Behind Darius Rucker’s & Jennifer Nettles’ ‘Never Been Over’ Talk Bringing Multiple Meanings to a Slow Descent

The new Darius Rucker single “Never Been Over,” featuring a convincing appearance by Jennifer Nettles, is easily heard as a celebration of a long-term relationship. The chorus employs a series of separation images – splitting up the household items, burning old letters or waving goodbye – that often appear in songs about a breakup, but it notes in the process that the couple has no experience with that stuff: “We’ve never been over.”

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It’s also possible, knowing Rucker’s history, to focus on the song’s road images and see it as a nod to his ongoing membership in the sometimes-active/sometimes-not Hootie + the Blowfish.

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Those interpretations are legit in Rucker’s mind, though it’s not how the song ended up playing for him. “When I started it, I think it was a love song,” he remembers. “But then as we kept writing it, I just realized that wasn’t a love song for me. It was more of a breakup song, and it was so therapeutic.”

People needed therapy at the time. It was May 21, 2020 – barely two months into the pandemic, days after the U.S. death toll passed 90,000. Songwriters were just getting used to composing via Zoom, and Rucker had a session that day with Brothers Osborne guitarist John Osborne and songwriter Lee Thomas Miller (“It Ain’t My Fault,” “You’re Gonna Miss This”). The process was clunky – if they sang, talked or played guitar, it muted the other participants and made it difficult to coordinate well.

Fortunately, Miller showed up with the “Never Been Over” title, and then some. “He walks into a room with a title that he knows can easily be written,” Osborne says of Miller. “He’s just really good at coming up with things like that, and he just said the title and threw out some concepts around the idea.”

“I had the trick, ‘We’ve been a lot of things, but we’ve never been over,’” Miller reflects. “It’s my favorite kind of song. It’s just the laundry list to make a point, you know, and so it was, ‘Okay, how do we do these contrasts?’: ‘We’ve been apples, we’ve been oranges,’ you know, ‘hot and cold’ and all the stuff.”

Osborne eased into a descending chord progression – not just a short one, but one that takes a long, leisurely journey.

“It starts up high, and it just walks down and keeps walking down and keeps walking, keeps going down,” Rucker says. “You rarely hear a song like this, that’s just descending the whole time. And then you get to the second verse, and it goes back and descends again.”

“I can’t remember who called it this, but it’s been dubbed the Bluebird walk-down,” Osborne says. “If you go to The Bluebird [Café Songwriters in the] Round, you’re going to hear somebody play those chords … And it feels emotional and evokes a feeling. And at the end of the day, that’s all we’re trying to do, is just evoke emotion.”

Miller’s initial structure included the song’s first two contrasts, “good and bad, hot and cold,” simple pairings that clued the listener in before they grew increasingly complex: “Desert quiet and rockstar loud,” “up and down like we’re built on springs.” By verse two, the images include “two pink lines, up all night” at the open and “18 years around the sun” at the end.

“We got pregnant, and we sent them to college in four lines,” Miller says.



Since the Zoom setup prevented them from doing a collective work tape, Osborne did a vocal/guitar recording on his own and sent it to Rucker. Barely 50 days later, Rucker and Beth Leonard announced their separation. Miller figured it was a bad omen for the song. “I thought we just lost our shot,” he says. “I felt like, ‘Wow, maybe this [will be] pushed on the back burner for personal reasons.’ I didn’t know, I didn’t ask.”

But he also didn’t realize that Rucker was viewing it as a breakup song, rather than a love ballad. “It was the first song I wrote about [the divorce],” he says. “There was no way I wasn’t gonna cut it. It was such a great song.”

When Rucker eventually recorded it, he made an acoustic version at the Blackbird Studios with producer Ross Copperman (Dierks Bentley, Gabby Barrett) and just three or four musicians. Ilya Toshinskiy turned the signature riff that Osborne had originated on acoustic guitar into a mandolin hook. “It just cuts better as a mandolin,” Copperman says. “It feels more signature, and it kind of fits his ‘Wagon Wheel’ vibe, that rootsy thing. It really fits him.”

Rucker needed no more than three takes to nail the final vocal, which sounds almost as if it were being delivered in a quiet moment in front of a fireplace.

“John Osborne sang the demo,” Rucker says. “I toured with John. John’s a real good friend. I didn’t know John could sing like that, because John’s a guitar player, you know. He sings background, and you can’t really hear because T.J. is so great and so loud. John sang the demo, and I still listen to his demo, and every time I sing, that’s all I’m trying to do, is sound like John does on the demo, because it’s so great.”

During the first round of sessions, they discussed turning “Never Been Over” into a duet – “There was initial talk of Kacey Musgraves doing it,” Copperman remembers – though it remained a solo cut on the Carolyn’s Boy album, released by Capitol Nashville on Oct. 6, 2023. Despite his reticence to pick singles, Rucker lobbied for “Never Been Over,” and the label consented, even before management suggested they reach out to Nettles. After they added bass, drums and electric guitar, she overdubbed her part on her own — though Rucker’s team gave some loose suggestions, particularly asking for her to enter with the “two pink lines” phrase.

“Adding Jennifer Nettles’ second verse kind of elevates the thing to a whole new level,” Copperman notes. “Hearing the female side of the story here – like, I always wanted this song to be a duet, man. I was so happy when we finally found out it was gonna be Jennifer.”

Capitol released it to country radio on May 6, and while it can be viewed as a love song, a breakup song or even a Hootie song, it also works as a statement about his ongoing relationship with his ex-wife. Even after they split, they’ve never been over.

“We love our kids very much, and we’re gonna be in each other’s lives the rest of our lives,” he says. “I hope we’re both being adults. I think after you get through all the stuff you have to get through, you can be friends. You have to.”

Jelly Roll and BMG Partner with Republic to Distribute the Country Superstar’s Next Album: Exclusive

Jelly Roll has a new duet partner. Through his home label, Stoney Creek/Broken Bow Records Music Group/BMG, he has entered into a worldwide deal with REPUBLIC, effective with the CMA Award-winning artist’s next album, including new single, “I Am Not OK,” which comes out tomorrow (June 12). 

The partnership will focus on expanding Jelly Roll’s music across multiple genres, as well as marketing the artist into new territories.  

Additionally, Jelly Roll, who owns his masters, has extended his deal with Stoney Creek/BBR and BMG Music Publishing. 

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Jelly Roll’s current album, Whitsitt Chapel, which came out last June, entered Billboard’s Top Country Albums at No. 2 in June 2023 with the largest week — 90,000 equivalent album units in the United States — for an initial entry since the survey transitioned to a consumption-based methodology in February 2017.

The album’s “Halfway to Hell,” which tops the Country Airplay chart right now, is his fourth consecutive No. 1 on the chart following “Son of a Sinner,” “Need a Favor” and “Save Me” (with Lainey Wilson).

“I couldn’t have accomplished what we’ve done with Whitsitt Chapel and all that’s happened in the last year without the support and belief I’ve had from [BMG CEO] Thomas Coesfeld, [BMG president of frontline recordings, The Americas] Jon Loba and the rest of the team at BBR,” Jelly Roll said in a statement. “Being able to now also work with Republic, [REPUBLIC co-founder/chairman] Monte [Lipman] and his team — I’ve never been more inspired musically and I am looking forward to releasing this new music with great partners.”

“Jelly Roll is a global icon who’s rewritten the rule book and continues to smash traditional boundaries, all on his own terms. His strength, determination and creative vision is that of legends. We’re honored to join his strategic partnership with Stoney Creek Records, BMG and trusted hitman and consigliere John Meneilly,” added Lipman, jokingly referring to Jelly Roll’s manager, Meneilly.

Loba, who signed Jelly Roll to Stoney Creek/BBR in 2021, said, “Jelly Roll embodies artistry and independence. His authenticity is the key to his success. He continually uses his platform to not only captivate audiences with his music but also to uplift communities. As an artist, he is a true trailblazer. As a human being, he has left a legacy of both talent and kindness, winning over fans all around the world. We are proud of everything we have accomplished together and look forward to achieving even more success in the future.”

Aside from expressing their universal love for Jelly Roll and his talent, Loba and Lipman are keeping details close to the vest in the deal that has been rumored for months, including how the partnership came about and its duration, the division of duties, if Republic was involved in the A&R process for the upcoming album and which formats the new single will be pushed to.

Jelly Roll has already proved to be a cross-format artist. In addition to his No. 1s on Billboard’s Country Airplay and Country Songs charts, his songs have topped the Mainstream Rock chart and Rock chart.

The past three years have been a whirlwind for the Antioch, Tenn. native, who first came to prominence as a rapper having garnered more than 1 billion streams before signing with Stoney Creek. Among the awards he has taken home are the CMA Award for new artist of the year and ACM Award for musical event of the year. In addition to Wilson, on record and stage he has duetted with Eminem, Jessie Murph, Wynonna and more.

The deal is Republic’s latest move into the country space following expansion of its deal with Big Loud to distribute all of its acts (after initially starting with Morgan Wallen and Lily Rose), as well as signing Miranda Lambert in a partnership with Big Loud. 

The Dueling Sounds and Motifs in Brothers Osborne’s ‘Break Mine,’ ‘Dually’ Noted

Life is lived in duality. We drift between the sun and moon, grapple with right and wrong, walk the thin line between love and hate.

Brothers Osborne is likewise built on duality. John Osborne and T.J. Osborne use two different primary instruments – guitar and voice, respectively – to channel a sound that’s primarily country and rock, and the duo’s new single, “Break Mine,” similarly runs on two tracks. The basic premise, “If you’re looking for a heart to break… break mine,” wreaks on one hand of classic codependence.

“I spent many therapy sessions talking about my codependency,” John says with a fair amount of sarcasm. “I’ll write about it.”

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But, T.J. suggests, the protagonist could on the other hand be looking quite realistically at a potential relationship, willing to accept its inherent risk of success or failure. “You can take it either way,” T.J. allows.

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“Break Mine” appropriately required two writing sessions. The first took place with co-writer Shane McAnally (“I Was On A Boat That Day,” “Body Like A Back Road”) at the home studio of Pete Good (“We Don’t Fight Anymore,” “I Tried A Ring On”) pre-COVID, circa 2019. McAnally, most likely, brought the “Break Mine” idea, Good introduced a foundational groove, and John landed on an almost-haunting chord progression. T.J. started singing a melancholy melody that peaked on successive lines on a different, unexpected beat.

“When he started singing that melody, I was like, ‘Oh, here we go,’” Good recalls.

With that start, they began working on the opening verse, rather than the chorus. “Which is, honestly, the kiss of death,” John says. It started fairly well. They fashioned that first verse as an invitation for a sleepover. As the singer waits for a response, he ends that stanza in limbo: “Baby, bring it on and on and on and on and on and on.”

“For me, it feels like another hook, as simple as that is,” Good says. “It kind of sets you up for the chorus, I think, in a beautiful way.”

That chorus comes in with a change in phrasing, the melody moving forward with the emphasis at the front of each line. But before finishing, and the four writers seemed to run out of gas. “We got about halfway through the song and just couldn’t get through it,” John says.

That might say less about the song than it says about the Osbornes’ compatibility with McAnally, who they typically see only once or twice a year. “A lot of times when we get together, because he’s so fucking funny, we end up just spending a lot of time catching up with each other and just shooting the shit,” T.J. says. “We probably just ran out of time because we couldn’t shut up.”



They made a work tape of their progress and called it a day, which left “Break Mine” in limbo, where it remained for perhaps two years. But it came up again when McAnally proposed a second writing session. Going through unfinished songs, he came across the work tape and sent a text to T.J., who found it sounded better than he remembered. “When I write, there’s sometimes – I call it my checkout lines, where I’ll hear a lyric, and I’m like, ‘Yeah, I’m over this,’” T.J. says. “I remember this song having one or two of those.”

One of them – the “on and on” section – was fixable by simply changing a lyric at the front of that line the second time it appeared, at the end of verse two. Meanwhile, the set-up line at the end of the chorus, “Get here in a straight line,” seemed fresh.

They met up again at Good’s studio in a new house and buttoned up the remaining issues with “Break Mine.” Good produced a demo, and the Osbornes decided it should be the first song they attacked when they wanted to test recording with producer Mike Elizondo (Twenty One Pilots, Eminem), who’d moved to Middle Tennessee from Los Angeles. Elizondo played bass and pulled together two more players the Osbornes hadn’t worked with previously, drummer Nate Smith and keyboardist Phil Towns, for a session at his Phantom Studio.

Elizondo’s bass, in particular, had such power that it felt like it could rattle the amplifier cabinet, though it never quite overpowers the rest of the performance. The bass’ weight came in part when Elizondo doubled it with a synth bass. “Quincy [Jones] would do that a lot on Michael Jackson records,” Elizondo says. “It’s something that, when it seems appropriate, I’ll try it out.”

John developed a cheery signature guitar riff for the intro, and it got doubled as well, with T.J. doing a vocal on top of it. John also took off on a guitar solo after the second chorus that worked like a scenic detour, changing the chords and creating a sense of fresh forward motion. “It’s a weird part,” he says. “It’s one of the hardest solos I play in our set, because it doesn’t physically feel the best on the guitar. There are certain things that just didn’t work out physically, but when I change the solo up, I miss it. So I’m always trying to adhere to that solo as much as I can.”

They tagged it with a one-minute instrumental finale, though Elizondo also had them cut an ending that capped it without the extended minute, knowing it would require an edit if it became a single. “That wasn’t hard to guess,” he says.

A day later, Elizondo threw on some bell-like keyboard parts – “twinkly things,” as T.J. refers to them. Those high notes form a subtle contrast with those deep bass lines, mirroring the duality of sweet surrender and darkness in the “Break Mine” lyric.

“That’s one of the things I love about Brothers Osbourne,” Elizondo says. “There are a handful of songs where there’s this mix of dark and light, whether the melody is brighter, but then the undertone of the music and the chord changes can be a little darker, or vice versa. I feel like ‘Break Mine’ really encapsulates that as far as the lyric, and even though it’s kind of got this sort of bounce, there’s this undertone of a mood that we wanted to make sure was always going to be there.”

The Osbornes originally planned to make “Break Mine” the first single from their self-titled 2023 album, but it didn’t quite fit sonically with the rest of the project. They eventually made it the title track of a four-song EP, released by EMI Nashville on March 21. The edited version of “Break Mine” was issued to country radio on April 15, finally rewarding the duo for sticking with the song through two writing sessions and a five-year journey.

“It’s still one of our favorite songs,” John says. “We’ll see what happens.”

The Best Lines From Big Body Bes’ New Video ‘Survivor’

There’s a lot that goes on in a Big Body Bes video.

He might be posted up in his favorite bodega drinking an ice cold Country Club, curling an EZ bar dipped in flames, or breaking bread at a cuchifrito. One thing is for certain, though, he’s going to be outside with the back block movers and shakers.

In “Survivor” — the latest installment of his Body Language series — Bes can be seen running around Brooklyn wearing various Coogi sweaters and lining himself up with a Fila razorblade, all while dropping jewels for us to pick up off the ground and take home.

And he’s doing so over some of the best beats money can buy: This particular track is produced by Kenny Beats, a.k.a. Cadillac Kenny, as Big Bimmer Body so eloquently referred to the producer out of Connecticut. Body last dropped a song in November called “Drug Money” which was produced by London’s Budgie Beats, and the one prior to that (“Sunsets in the East“) was produced by The Alchemist.

The streets have been waiting for the Fordham Road Ferragamo to finally drop the long-awaited spoken-word rap album Body Language. He’s been teasing the project for a minute now, but at least he’s still releasing street philosophy anthems like this one. We might need the Bootleg Man to make a comeback at this point, though, because this is barbershop music. This is the type of rap only available on a burnt CD from the inside of a bookbag.

We felt so inspired listening to “Survivor,” we decided to pick out the best lines. Check ’em out below.

Rihanna Clarifies She’s Not Retired & Is ‘Starting Over’ on ‘R9’

Rihanna isn’t done with music just yet. The Navy can exhale after Ri clarified that her recent “I’m Retired” shirt was just a fashion statement looking into the future and had nothing to do with the present day.

The nine-time Grammy w inner caught up with Extra on the red carpet for her Fenty Hair launch event in L.A. on Monday evening (June 10), where she explained she’s not hanging up her mic for good just yet.

“That was just me looking into the future. I’m not retired. I just like that dress. I got it as a gift and I loved it,” she said. “They didn’t read the second line, I’m not retired, I’m just retired from dressing up — it’s a lot of effort.”

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Fans desperate for any sort of positive developments on the R9 front can take solace in the fact Ri revealed she’s starting over with the elusive album, and the beauty mogul’s “prepared” to get back in the studio with her newfound perspective.

“Yeah, I’m starting over,” RiRi declared to Entertainment Tonight. “But I don’t want to neglect the songs that I have, so I actually want to go back and listen to stuff with new ears, with my new perspective and then see what applies and what I’m still in love with.”

The 36-year-old continued: “I think that music, for me, is a new discovery. I’m rediscovering things. I have been working on the album for so long that I kinda put all that stuff aside and now I’m prepared to go back in the studio. I’m gonna start — give me a second!”

Rihanna’s last album, Anti, turned eight years old in January after arriving in 2016. The project reached No. 1 on the Billboard 200 in its second week on the chart, with 166,000 units earned in the U.S. in the week ending Feb. 4, 2016, according to Nielsen Music.

Watch Rihanna’s interview with ET touching on her much-debated shirt and upcoming album below.



Ariana Grande Has a ‘Wicked’ Reaction to Chappell Roan’s Statue of Liberty Costume

Ariana Grande is officially a member of the Pink Pony Club. After Chappell Roan took the stage at New York City’s 2024 Gov Ball with her skin painted green in a full Statue of Liberty look, the 26-year-old musician inspired a litany of memes, including several referencing the upcoming Wicked films — which the franchise’s star later used as an opportunity to share her love for Roan.

On Monday (June 10), one day after the “Good Luck, Babe!” artist’s festival set, Grande shared a meme that replaced Cynthia Erivo’s Elphaba with a photo of Roan — similarly jade-skinned as she performs on stage — in a scene from the Wicked trailer. “You’re green!” exclaims the R.E.M. Beauty founder’s character Glinda in the shot, to which the Wicked Witch/Roan simply says, “I am.”

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“I really ♡ @chappellroan,” Grande captioned the meme on her Instagram Story.

The “Thank U, Next” singer wasn’t the only one who loved Roan’s Gov Ball set. The “Red Wine Supernova” artist set the internet ablaze with her creative Lady Liberty look, as well as her live debut of an unreleased song titled “Subway” and her revelation that she turned down the White House’s invitation to perform for Pride this year.

“We want liberty, freedom and justice for all,” Roan said during her set, staring directly into the festival’s cameras before dedicating “My Kink Is Karma” to the Biden Administration. “When you do that, that’s when I’ll come.”

Still months away from the Thanksgiving premiere of the first Wicked film, Grande dropped the music video for “The Boy Is Mine” Friday (June 7). A few days later, she shared a clip of her doing her own makeup for the visual using products from her R.E.M. Beauty line.

In the clip, Grande also spoke about the characters she’s created as part of her Eternal Sunshine universe. In the “We Can’t Be Friends” music video, for instance, she played Peaches, a likeness inspired by Kate Winslet’s Clementine in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

In “Boy Is Mine,” Peaches appears once again — but this time, she transforms herself into a Catwoman-esque femme fatale in an attempt to seduce Penn Badgley’s character in the video. “When your alter-ego has its own alter-ego, that’s when you know it’s time to see a therapist,” Grande quipped in her makeup tutorial.

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Tory Lanez’s Wife Raina Chassagne Files for Divorce After Less Than a Year of Marriage

Tory Lanez has suffered another loss from behind bars. Raina Chassagne, the Canadian singer’s wife, has filed for divorce after less than a year of marriage.

Per court documents obtained by Billboard, Chassagne filed for divorce from Lanez — born Daystar Peterson — cited irreconcilable differences for the split. She and the incarcerated artist tied the knot on June 25, 2023, prior to his sentencing, and she listed the date of their separation as June 1, 2024.

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Lanez and Chassagne share a 7-year-old daughter; Chassagne is asking for legal as well as physical custody of their daughter, with visitation time for Lanez.

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In the docs, Chassagne indicated that there are no “assets or debts” to be divided, and is reserving spousal support determination for the future, though she is not asking for it now.

Billboard has reached out to Tory Lanez’s attorney.

Lanez has spent the last few years tied up in legal issues related to the 2020 shooting of Megan Thee Stallion outside a Hollywood Hills pool party. According to prosecutors, the “Hiss” rapper got out of the car during an argument and began walking away when Lanez shouted, “Dance, b—h!” He then proceeded to shoot at her feet.

Lanez was convicted in December 2022 on three felonies (assault with a firearm; carrying a loaded, unregistered firearm in a vehicle and discharging a firearm with gross negligence). The “Say It” singer was ultimately sentenced to 10 years behind bars last August.

SEVENTEEN Named First-Ever UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador For Youth

SEVENTEEN can add another honor to their long list of accomplishments after UNESCO announced on Tuesday (June 11) that the 13-man South Korean band will be appointed as the international group’s Goodwill Ambassador for Youth by UNESCO general director Audrey Azoulay at a June 26 ceremony at the organization’s Paris headquarters.

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“SEVENTEEN and UNESCO share the same commitment to empowering young people to drive change and address the challenges of our century. They continue to inspire and support young people around the world with their music and positive energy,” Azoulay said in a statement. “Following several successful joint actions, I wanted our partnership to take on even greater strategic importance. On June 26, I will be delighted to welcome the 13 members of the group into the family of UNESCO Goodwill Ambassadors.”

The appointment comes after SEVENTEEN participated in the 13th UNESCO Youth Forum in Paris in November, where they talked about the importance of young people pursuing their dreams at the first-ever session at the forum dedicated to a musical artist. More than 1,300 people from 194 member states attended that event, including 170 youth delegates. UNESCO — short for the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization — is a specialized United Nations agency that works to promote, “world peace and security through international cooperation in education, arts, sciences and culture.”

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In addition to their speech about positivity and hope, the group also performed a medley of their hits, including “_WORLD,” “Darl+ing,” “Headliner,” “God of Music” and “Together.”

In 2022, SEVENTEEN also launched the #GoingTogether initiative with the Korean National Commission for UNESCO, establishing new educational centers in Timor-Leste and educational aid to Malawi. According to the statement, by working as Goodwill Ambassador For Youth, the group will commit to “putting their talent and voice at the service of the Organization’s values and mandate.”

At the June 26 ceremony, the group will unveil their SEVENTEEN x UNESCO partnership, which will be dedicated to supporting youth projects around the globe. The ceremony will be livestreamed on UNESCO’s YouTube channel.

Check out a teaser for the June 26 UNESCO event below.

Bad Gyal Takes Fans Behind the Scenes of L.A. Tour Stop: Watch

Spanish hitmaker Bad Gyal is giving fans an exclusive look at what a typical day on tour looks like, specifically how she spends the last few hours leading up to the show.

Born Alba Farelo Solé, the “Chulo” singer recently wrapped her 24 Karats U.S. Tour in Los Angeles, where she performed a sold-out show at The Novo. Before taking the stage, Bad gave Billboard a behind-the-scenes look at her tour stop, which includes glam and vocal training.

“This is our one typical office day,” jokes Alba Blasi, Bad Gyal’s manager of more than seven years.

“We’ve been together since the beginning,” Bad Gyal adds. The singer-songwriter also introduces Adriana Capellá, her tour manager and assistant. “We’re friends since childhood,” she says of Capellá, whom she met when they were just 8 or 9 years old.

After introducing her team — which also includes hairstylist Jesus Camacho and her makeup artist Venus — and getting all glammed up, she dedicates a few hours to creating social media content. “I’m the one who’s deciding which pictures I’m posting, like, I run all my social media. After that, I go back to my dressing room, I chill for a bit. I take my hot tea for my voice and then I do the vocal training,” Bad Gyal explains.

Bad Gyal’s 24 Karats Tour was in support of her debut album, La Joia, which translates to “the jewel.”

“I felt it was [the right] time when I had more experience in songwriting, in the studio, in choosing the producers, in the material that has been made, what’s better, what’s less important,” Bad Gyal previously told Billboard about the process of creating her album. “Over the years, you gain experience and you know yourself better.”

Above, watch Bad Gyal’s behind-the-scenes video of her tour stop in Los Angeles.

Jelly Roll Reveals He’s ‘Still Campaigning’ for His Dream Duet Partner

During his career, four-time Billboard Country Airplay chart-topper Jelly Roll has already notched some top-shelf collaborations with artists ranging from Lainey Wilson (their hit song “Save Me”) to Jessie Murph (“Wild Ones”) and even Eminem (a recent surprise duet of “Sing for the Moment”).

While speaking with Good Morning America during CMA Fest in Nashville over the weekend, Jelly Roll said he still has several artists on his collaboration bucket list, including Miley Cyrus and James Taylor. However, he was profuse in his admiration and desire to collaborate with one country music superstar in particular.

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“I still wanna record a song with Garth Brooks,” Jelly Roll said. “I’m still campaigning, like, don’t let my career end without me and Garth getting one in. Even if we just sung one together in a show, like, just anything with Garth, you know what I mean?”

Jelly Roll then added, “Garth, we know each other. I love you.”

The “Son of a Sinner” singer first met Brooks last year, during the Academy of Country Music Awards, leading to a memorable moment when Jelly Roll shook Brooks’ hand and hugged him, but also picked up the two-time Grammy winner in the process.

“When you get too excited seeing your hero so you pick him up,” Jelly Roll captioned a video of the moment on TikTok.

During the GMA interview, Jelly Roll, the reigning CMA new artist of the year, also noted the importance of being open about dreams and ambitions. “You just gotta ask for it, man, that’s what I’ve learned. If you’re just honest with people about what you want, sometimes it happens.”

Jelly Roll realized another long-held dream on Saturday (June 8) when the Antioch, Tenn., native headlined his first set at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, performing songs including “Son of a Sinner,” “Save Me” and a new song, “I Am Not OK.”