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Dua Lipa Turned Her One-Night-Only Royal Albert Hall Show Into a Live Album

While her October performance at London’s Royal Albert Hall was a one-night-only affair, Dua Lipa wants to make sure that her performance doesn’t go “Houdini.”

On Tuesday (Nov. 19), the pop star announced the release date for her first-ever live album, Dua Lipa Live From The Royal Albert Hall. Recorded during her Oct. 17 performance at the iconic venue and releasing on Friday, Dec. 6, the new LP features Lipa singing through the entirety of her latest album, Radical Optimism, with a number of her biggest hits sprinkled in for good measure.

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In a statement, Lipa shared that her performance at the legendary hall was “unlike anything I’ve ever done,” and that she wanted to have a permanent record of the show. “For the longest time, I’ve had this idea to reimagine my music with an orchestra, and when I was making Radical Optimism, I was constantly thinking about the live element and how these songs would transform on stage, so when The Royal Albert Hall show came up, it presented itself as the perfect opportunity to not only reconstruct these songs, but also celebrate them in such a beautiful and intimate way,” she said. “The experience was entirely thrilling and equally rewarding.”

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The live album will be released just days before Lipa’s primetime concert special filmed at The Royal Albert Hall — An Evening With Dua Lipa will air on CBS and Paramount+ on Sunday, Dec. 15.

Check out the full tracklist for the project below:

Dua Lipa Live From the Royal Albert Hall tracklist:

  1. “Overture (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  2. “End Of An Era (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  3. “Houdini (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  4. “Training Season (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  5. “These Walls (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  6. “Whatcha Doing (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  7. “French Exit (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  8. “Illusion (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  9. “Falling Forever (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  10. “Anything For Love (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  11. “Maria (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  12. “Happy For You (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  13. “Love Again (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  14. “Pretty Please (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  15. “Levitating (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  16. “Sunshine (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  17. “Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) (Live from the Royal Albert Hall) “
  18. “Be The One (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  19. “Dance The Night (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”
  20. “Don’t Start Now (Live from the Royal Albert Hall)”

Nate Smith on Taking a Swing at a Power Ballad With ‘Fix What You Didn’t Break’: ‘Guys Are More Sensitive Than We Get Credit’

It’s a necessary fact of music-industry life that the conditions in which music is created are often different than the reality in which they’re consumed.

Christmas songs, for example, are often penned in spring or summer, and they’re frequently recorded when Nashville temperatures are still in the 80s or 90s. Similarly, artists typically develop future singles when their current releases are just beginning to grow, and many of their projections about follow-up material are educated guesses about how the already-finished songs might perform.

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In that spirit, Nate Smith’s new single – “Fix What You Didn’t Break,” released by RCA Nashville to country radio via PlayMPE on Oct. 28 – is an example of strong artistic instinct. It’s a power ballad, fueled by crunchy chords and Smith’s trademark rasp, though it’s something of a departure. His first three singles – “Whiskey On You,” “World On Fire” and “Bulletproof,” each of which reached the top 5 on Country Airplay – all incorporated that rasp into defiant post-breakup anthems. “Fix What You Didn’t Break” revises the message, embracing a plot that celebrates a woman who changed the outlook of a previously defeated romantic partner. It’s not exactly the formula Smith has employed thus far, and he’s acutely aware.

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“It’s kind of scary when you put your first kind of ballad out there,” he says. “But I do love this song so much.”

Understandably. Smith was a teenager in the late 1990s and early 2000s when pop/rock radio was spinning Lifehouse’s “You and Me,” 3 Doors Down’s “Here Without You,” Aerosmith’s “I Don’t Want To Miss A Thing” and Goo Goo Dolls’ RIAA diamond-certified “Iris.” That sonic strain is part of Smith’s musical DNA, and provides permission to explore the emotions around successful relationships.
“Guys,” he reasons, “are more sensitive than we get credit.”

Smith’s musical identity was still being forged for the public when he wrote “Fix” on July 11, 2023, at the home studio of producer Lindsay Rimes (LOCASH, Tyler Rich). They were joined by songwriters Ashley Gorley (“I Am Not Okay,” “Truck Bed”) and Taylor Phillips (“I Am Not Okay,” “Hurricane”) – the same team that authored “World On Fire,” which was just in its fourth charted week at the time on its way to becoming Smith’s second No. 1. They already had a sense that Smith needed to think about changing things up with his future radio-targeted releases.

“Our goal,” says Gorley, “is not just to try to get a song on them, but to have a hand in what they should do next, or what we think we’d like to hear from them personally next. This kind of checked all those boxes.”

Phillips submitted the title – “He always has the titles… it’s one of his expected roles,” Gorley says – and it didn’t take long to figure out that it fit a story about a woman who served as something of a savior for a guy who was lost. Rimes cranked up some chords on electric guitar that gave it some testosterone.
“Lindsay, he’s always got that electric turned up so loud the neighbors can hear him,” Phillips quips.

The opening lines came early: “I was a 10-year train wreck/ With a last-call longneck.” They captured a guy numbing his pain with alcohol, and Smith says they drew on a past relationship that he hasn’t talked much about publicly. “It had been in the ballpark of 10 years since my divorce and what I went through before, when I left Nashville the first time,” he notes. “It kind of had a little nod of that.”

They mapped out the melody, still applying an anthemic attitude to “Fix,” even if it was a love song. One particularly attractive melodic segment, featuring short phrases and distinct-but-modest intervals, emerged during the work, though it wasn’t immediately apparent how to use it.

“We all dug the melody and the vibe of that section, and we were just trying to figure out where to put it,” Rimes remembers. “At the time, we might have thought that could be a verse, but it felt right as the pre-chorus.”

That pre-chorus was an ideal puzzle piece, easing from the opening verse into the first chorus. The verses themselves had their own forward motion thematically. While the opening stanza established the singer’s brokenness, the second verse focused on the woman, who saw him as salvageable and took the steps to revive his spirits, answering his prayers and picking up “the towel that I threw in.”

“One of my favorite lines – and I’m sure Taylor had something to do with it – is ‘Showed me the past ain’t a tattoo/ Loved me even when you didn’t have to,’” Gorley says. “That’s like a spiritual moment to be like, ‘Hey, you don’t have to be known for your past. It’s not with you forever. I’m gonna change that.’ That really goes with the theme.”

To cap it, they re-employed the pre-chorus as the bridge, figuring that the melody was so good it should be heard again.

“I don’t like doing a lot of pre-peats – it’s what I call them when you repeat the pre-chorus – but in that situation, what else can you say that’s better than that?” Phillips says. “The melody was so hooky, and it gave the song a second to breathe again before the last chorus.”

Rimes built the demo as the writing session progressed, adding programmed drums and bass around his guitar parts. When they thought they were done writing, Gorley took a swing at a scratch vocal, just to see if there were any issues that jumped out. Once he wrapped, Smith sang the real demo vocal, adding his rasp in all the right places.

“Fix What You Didn’t Break” languished for months, but Rimes brought it out this summer during a tracking session at Nashville’s Blackbird Studios with a five-piece band: drummer Evan Hutchings, bassist Mark Hill, guitarist Derek Wells, keyboardist Alex Wright and steel guitarist Justin Schipper. They found themselves with extra time at the end of the booking, and Rimes thought framing Smith’s demo vocal with a real band would better sell it to the team.

“I felt personally that the song wasn’t getting as much love as I felt it deserved, and it wasn’t finished,” Rimes says. “We were all focused on getting the album finished, and cutting songs and listening to new songs and stuff. I wanted to cut a band on this song, because I feel like it’s a huge hit.”

Sol Philcox-Littlefield came in later to drop a loud-but-simple guitar solo, and Smith spent hours finding places to add in backing vocals.

There were other options for singles, but multiple radio stations asked RCA to service it, presenting Smith in a slightly different light. It debuted on the Country Airplay chart dated Nov. 23, reminding listeners that the right situation can help overcome a past hardship.

“I feel like a good relationship exposes it,” Smith says, “but it also gives you the freedom to grow and the grace to forgive and understand that you’re going through this stuff, slowly refining.”

Fleetwood Mac Documentary Announced by Apple Original Films

Apple Original Films has unveiled plans for a new definitive documentary chronicling the legendary Fleetwood Mac.

Directed by acclaimed filmmaker Frank Marshall, a five-time Academy Award nominee and winner of the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award, the project marks the first fully authorized documentary about the band.

For the first time, Fleetwood Mac members will narrate their own extraordinary story, supported by exclusive interviews, archival footage, and unseen material, including tributes to the late Christine McVie.

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The film promises to delve into Fleetwood Mac’s meteoric rise and the personal and professional dynamics that shaped their legacy.

From the band’s formation in 1967 to their groundbreaking albums and record-breaking tours, the documentary will explore the unique alchemy between Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks, and Christine McVie that produced some of the most enduring music of the modern era.

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Fleetwood Mac’s impact on the Billboard charts underscores their legendary status. The band has charted 25 songs on the Billboard Hot 100, with nine Top 10 hits, including their sole No. 1 single, “Dreams,” which spent 19 weeks on the chart during its original release in 1977. On the Billboard 200, the band has placed 30 albums, with four reaching the summit: Fleetwood Mac (1975), Rumours (1977), Tusk (1979), and The Dance (1997).

Their 1977 masterpiece Rumours achieved an extraordinary 31 weeks at No. 1 and remains one of the best-selling albums of all time, with over 40 million copies sold globally, with over 20 million copies being in the US alone.

In a statement, director Frank Marshall reflected on the band’s cultural significance, saying, “I am fascinated by how this incredible story of enormous musical achievement came about. Fleetwood Mac somehow managed to merge their often chaotic and almost operatic personal lives into their own tale in real-time, which then became legend. This will be a film about the music and the people who created it.”

Producer Nicholas Ferrall added, “We are thrilled to continue our creative partnership with Frank and the talented team at Kennedy/Marshall. Fleetwood Mac are a musical phenomenon, their alchemy almost beyond comprehension. White Horse is grateful and humbled by the extraordinary opportunity to produce a documentary that dives deep into both the talents of each band member individually and the magic that is Fleetwood Mac as a whole. And to do this with the support and reach of Apple is quite wonderful.”

The documentary, which is yet to be titled, joins Apple Original Films’ prestigious catalog of projects, including the Academy Award-winning CODA and the Emmy-winning STILL: A Michael J. Fox Movie.

HarbourView Equity Partners Acquires Master Royalty Income of George Benson

HarbourView Equity Partners has acquired the master royalty income of renowned jazz guitarist, singer-songwriter and 10-time Grammy Award winner George Benson. Terms of the transaction were not disclosed.

In the press release announcing the transaction, HarbourView Equity Partners founder and CEO Sherrese Clarke Soares said, “We maintain a commitment to be a canon for legendary culture movers such as George Benson. His artistry is distinct in its sound, with acoustics that forever stir emotions of a musical era that means so much to so many of us. We are proud to stand in partnership and welcome him to the HarbourView family.”

Fox Rothschild served as legal counsel to HarbourView in this transaction. Benson was represented by Manatt, Phelps & Phillips. Earlier this year, Benson announced his return to the Warner Music Group and released his long-lost album Dreams Do Come True: When George Benson Meets Robert Farnon. The 11-track orchestral project, featuring American standards and pop classics, was originally recorded 35 years ago with composer-arranger Farnon and under the guidance of Grammy-winning engineer Al Schmitt.

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Benson topped the jazz, pop and R&B charts with his 1976 album Breezin’. The three-time Grammy-winning album, which includes the crossover hit “This Masquerade,” has since been certified triple platinum and remains one of the best-selling jazz albums of all time. Benson’s catalog of 36 studio albums and eight live albums also includes the 1980 hit “Give Me the Night,” produced by the legendary Quincy Jones and written by Rod Temperton (Michael Jackson). In 2021, DJ Steve Aoki remixed “Give Me the Night” with a rugged house beat, reintroducing the song to a new generation.

In 2018, Benson collaborated with art-pop band Gorillaz, featuring Blur’s Damon Albarn and visual artist Jamie Hewlett, to co-write and perform on the track “Humility.” The song has since amassed more than 100 million YouTube views.

Awarded the NEA Jazz Masters Fellowship in 2009, Benson has also been presented with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and received honorary doctorate degrees from Morris Brown College, the Berklee School of Music and Duquesne University. In 2020, he was inducted into the jazz bible DownBeat Magazine’s Hall of Fame. And in 2021, Benson was inducted by Quincy Jones into New Jersey’s Hall of Fame.

Post Malone Plots 2025 North American Big Ass Stadium Tour With Jelly Roll

Two of the biggest names in country are hitting the road together next year. On Tuesday morning (Nov. 19), Post Malone announced the dates for his 2025 BIG ASS Stadium Tour, a 25-date spring/summer run that will team the “I Had Some Help” singer up with Jelly Roll for a run of baseball/football stadiums slated to kick off on April 29 at Rice-Eccles Stadium in Salt Lake City, UT.

The Live Nation-produced North American tour, Posty’s biggest headlining outing to date, will also feature support from Sierra Ferrell on select dates. After launching in SLC, the tour will hit Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and the Alamodome in San Antonio, before moving on to Dallas, Atlanta, St. Louis, Detroit, Minneapolis, Chicago, Philadelphia, Toronto, New York, Miami, Denver, and Portland before winding down on July 1 at Oracle Park in San Francisco.

In his Instagram post announcing the tour, Malone included a poster with two other dates not featured in the official press release on April 13 and 20 in Indio, California, which coincides with the two weekends of the 2025 Coachella Festival and will not include Jelly or Ferrell; the lineup for next year’s Coachella has not yet been announced and spokespeople for Malone and Coachella had not returned a request for comment on the April dates at press time.

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Both Malone and Jelly are former rappers who’ve found great success in country music, with Malone hitting No. 1 on the Billboard 200 album chart earlier this year with his feature-packed debut country album, F-1 Trillion, which has been nominated for a best country album Grammy award.

Fans in the U.S. and Canada can register for an artist presale now here, with the artist presale slated to begin on Friday (Nov. 22). Tickets will also be available first through a Citi presale in the U.S. beginning on Wednesday (Nov. 20) at 12 p.m. local time through Nov. 25 at 10 p.m. local time through the Citi Entertainment program. Additional presales will take place ahead of the general onsale that kicks off on Nov. 26 at 12 p.m. local time here.

In addition, tour sponsor T-Mobile is giving customers exclusive access to preferred tickets on every U.S. date — even sold-out ones — with details available here.

The team-up with Malone comes just weeks after Jelly Roll wrapped up his biggest tour to date, the Beautifully Broken outing, which hit arenas across the U.S. on a bill featuring Warren Zeiders and Alexandra Kay.

Check out the dates for 2025’s Post Malone Presents: The Big Ass Stadium Tour:

April 29 – Salt Lake City, UT @ Rice-Eccles Stadium^

May 3 – Las Vegas, NV @ Allegiant Stadium^

May 7 – San Antonio, TX @ Alamodome^

May 9 – Dallas, TX @ AT&T Stadium^

May 11 – Atlanta, GA @ Mercedes Benz Stadium^

May 13 – St. Louis, MO @ Busch Stadium^

May 18 – Detroit, MI @ Ford Field^

May 20 – Minneapolis, MN @ U.S. Bank Stadium^

May 22 – Chicago, IL @ Wrigley Field^

May 24 – Philadelphia, PA @ Citizens Bank Park^

May 26 – Toronto, ON @ Rogers Centre^

May 28 – Hershey, PA @ Hersheypark Stadium^

May 29 – Pittsburgh, PA @ PNC Park^

May 31 – Foxborough, MA @ Gillette Stadium

June 2 – Washington, DC @ Northwest Stadium

June 4 – New York, NY @ Citi Field

June 8 – Miami, FL @ Hard Rock Stadium*

June 10 – Orlando, FL @ Camping World Stadium

June 13 – Ridgedale, MO @ Thunder Ridge Nature Arena

June 15 – Denver, CO @ Empower Field at Mile High

June 21 – Glendale, AZ @ State Farm Stadium*

June 24 – Boise, ID @ Albertsons Stadium

June 26 – Seattle, WA @ T-Mobile Park

June 28 – Portland, OR @ Providence Park

July 1 – San Francisco, CA @ Oracle Park

*Without Jelly Roll

^With Sierra Ferrell

Dua Lipa Heralded as The Trevor Project’s Mental Health Champion of the Year

In the wake of a presidential election that saw calls to its crisis hotline increase by nearly 700%, The Trevor Project is taking a moment to celebrate some good news, courtesy of pop star Dua Lipa.

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On Tuesday (Nov. 19), the LGBTQ+ advocacy group announced the “Houdini” singer as the recipient of its annual mental health champion of the year award. Citing Lipa as a “fierce, longtime advocate” for the both the LGBTQ+ community and those struggling with mental health issues, the organization thanked the singer for her work promoting their services.

“I am unbelievably moved and honored to receive this year’s Mental Health Champion of the Year Award. The Trevor Project is an organization that is near and dear to my heart, and I am humbled to play a part in shining a light on mental health awareness for LGBTQ+ young people,” Lipa said of her award in a statement. “The LGBTQ+ community have been my biggest champions since the start of my career, and I will continue to fight to make sure your voices are heard, your rights are protected, and you are treated with respect for being just the way you are.”

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Lipa becomes the fourth celebrity to receive the Trevor Project’s award, preceded by past winners Lil Nas X (2021), Janelle Monáe (2022) and Dylan Mulvaney (2023). In a statement, the Trevor Project’s CEO Jaymes Black added that the “Training Season” singer “sets an excellent example for how allies can use their platforms to amplify the challenges faced by the LGBTQ+ community.”

In its recently published 2024 U.S. National Survey on the Mental Health of LGBTQ+ Young People, the Trevor Project found that 46% of transgender and nonbinary youth and 39% of queer youth seriously contemplated suicide over the last year. To help raise funds for the organization’s services, Lipa will also be hosting a digital fundraiser across her socials. Those looking to donate to her fundraiser can visit the Trevor Project’s website.

LISA of BLACKPINK Announces Debut Solo Album ‘Alter Ego’: Here’s When It Arrives

BLINKs already know LISA — now get ready to meet her alter ego. After weeks of teasing, the BLACKPINK star has finally announced that her debut solo album is on its way, and it’s coming in just a few months.

On Tuesday (Nov. 19) — a date fans have been impatiently counting down to alongside a cryptic timer on LISA’s website — the 27-year-old performer shared that her first-ever LP independent from her famous girl group is titled Alter Ego and slated to arrive Feb. 28. She also unveiled the project’s cover art, which features a sleek photo of a hooded LISA showing off her spiky black nails and staring down the camera.

On her LLOUD YouTube channel, the Thai singer-rapper further hyped up fans by dropping a three-minute album trailer, which expands on the teaser she dropped a few days prior to the announcement. With her eyes changing colors through the landscapes, the video finds LISA traveling from a black rock structure to a cyberpunk outer-space catwalk, an enchanted garden, a green laser-beam motorcycle track and a volcanic red runway.

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According to the press release, the five locations represent the five characters LISA emulates on the LP, “each representing a unique personality.” “They are represented by the five points on a star, which has become a key emblem in the campaign,” the description adds.

Alter Ego will follow a run of three LISA singles in 2024, beginning with “Rockstar” — which reached No. 70 on the Billboard Hot 100 — and followed by “New Woman” with Rosalía and “Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me).” The star has been prepping the album for months for a release ahead of BLACKPINK’s planned reunion in 2025, and in her Billboard cover story, she opened up about her perfectionism when it came to the project.

“I’m trying to figure it out, the tracklist and everything, what I can change in there,” she told Billboard. “Everything’s there. I think they’re going to be shocked at how capable I am [at] doing so many things.”

The star also gushed about her BLACKPINK bandmates ROSÉ — who has simultaneously been forging her own solo music era this year — JENNIE and JISOO in her cover story. “We know each other so well and know how much energy we have to put into every single project,” LISA said. “So we want to support and say, ‘You did really well!’ Like, JENNIE and Rosie just released their own songs, and we’re on texts, we’re on FaceTime. They’re like family.”

Watch the Alter Ego teaser and see the album cover below.

Amazon Music Now Has Audible’s Audiobook Catalog — And the NMPA Is ‘Optimistic’ About It

Amazon Music is updating its “Unlimited” subscription tier to give subscribers in the U.S., UK and Canada access to audiobooks from Audible’s library of one million-plus titles, the company announced on Tuesday (Nov. 19).

With the new perk, Amazon Music Unlimited follows in the footsteps of Spotify, which revamped its subscription offerings earlier this year to include a bundle of songs and audiobooks together. Though Spotify angered songwriters and publishers by arguing it didn’t need to pay the full mechanical royalty rate since it offered multiple royalty-earning services in one, it appears that Amazon Music will work with publishers to determine new rates privately. According to a statement by the National Music Publishers’ Association (NMPA), the trade organization is “optimistic” about Amazon’s new offering and is “engaged” with the company in a “respectful and productive way” to find a compensation model for publishers that “will not decrease revenue for songwriters.”

Subscribers to AMU’s individual plan and primary holders of family plans are entitled to one audiobook of any length per month, a perk that continues even after each billing cycle. For those whose appetite for audiobooks exceeds the one-per-month offer, additional titles can be acquired through Audible via monthly subscriptions or a la carte purchases. 

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The additional perk comes without an increase in price — for the time being. Steve Boom, vp of audio, Twitch and games, said Amazon’s strategy is be “to add new things to the product” that add value and later “figure out what the right pricing strategy is in the long term.” In the U.S., AMU costs $9.99 for Prime members and $10.99 for non-Prime subscribers, both less than Spotify’s $11.99 monthly fee and, for non-Prime subscribers, equal to to Apple Music’s $10.99 price.  

Spoken-word content has already proven a valuable complement to music. After AMU added podcasts in 2020, subscribers embraced having both music and spoken-word content in the same app, noted Boom. “The convenience of having both music and spoken word in the same app has proven really effective. It makes logical sense to bring audio books into it as well.”

Audiobooks will not be made available to Amazon Music Prime, the tier included with a basic Prime subscription, or Amazon Music Free, a free option with playlists, radio stations and podcasts. 

The concept of “bundling” multiple services together has become a hot-button issue for songwriters and publishers. At the start of March, Spotify Premium subscriptions, including family and duo tiers, were quietly reclassified as bundled offerings, with both music and audiobooks included in the plans.

According to the stipulations of Phonorecords IV — the government-regulated guidelines that dictate the mechanical royalty rates for streaming from 2023-2027 — bundled services can qualify to pay out a lower royalty rate for publishing given that subscription dollars must be split between multiple services (in this case, books and songs). As a consequence, Billboard calculated that publishers and songwriters will earn an estimated $150 million less in U.S. mechanical royalties than previously expected in the 12 months following the change.

At the time, NMPA’s CEO/president David Israelite said he would “declare war” on Spotify — and he subsequently launched a multi-pronged effort to stop the streamer. This included sending Spotify a cease and desist for unlicensed lyrics, video and podcast content; filing a legislative proposal with both the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate Judiciary Committees; and filing a Federal Trade Commission complaint. Around the same time, the Mechanical Licensing Collective (the MLC) sued Spotify for “improperly” classifying these tiers as bundles.

“We are optimistic about the new Amazon bundle,” Israelite told Billboard in a statement. “Amazon has engaged with the music publishing and songwriting industry in a respectful and productive way, unlike Spotify. We expect this new Amazon bundle will not decrease revenue for songwriters. Unlike Spotify, Amazon is looking at music creators as business partners and seeking to have a deal in place before the first round of royalty payments. This is in stark contrast to Spotify who is trying to pervert the compulsory license and slash what they pay songwriters.”

The NMPA and Amazon Music have not yet reached a final agreement.

Cynthia Erivo Nails Dax Shepard After He Asks ‘Inappropriate’ Question About Her Wiping Habits

Cynthia Erivo is doing a lot of press to promote her turn as Elphaba in Wicked. And in addition to always showing up for her interviews wearing an outrageously fierce outfit, the singer/actress is also sporting her signature long, lacquered fingernails.

Which brings us to this week’s episode of Dax Shepard’s Armchair Expert podcast, in which the actor asked Erivo the one question he thought everyone was dying to ask, but only he was uncouth enough to actually throw out there: how do you wipe with those long nails?

“Can I see your hands?” Shepard asked Erivo. “I couldn’t tell if it was your nails were so long or if you were wearing some kind of hand thing.” Once Erivo assured him that nothing was going on with her hands and that she just naturally has “very long fingers” and that her nails happen to be “very long” right now, the Buddy Games star wondered if he could ask a “really crazy question [that’s] inappropriate.”

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“Go on,” Erivo told him.

“When you’re wiping your butt…” he began as Erivo laughed, “I knew you would ask that question.”

“Everyone’s afraid to ask it,” Shepard responded. “No, no one’s afraid to ask it!” Erivo responded. “Everybody asks that question, and my answer is nobody uses just their fingers to wipe their backside. You use tissue, correct? And you wipe!”

“I guess my question is does the tissue go on the tip of the fingernails or do you try to get the tissue…,” Shepard asked, getting into the nitty gritty of the toileting habits of the actress who is an Oscar short of becoming an EGOT winner.

“Pads of the fingers,” Erivo confirmed.

“Great, great, great, we’re getting somewhere,” a somewhat embarrassed-sounding Shepard responded as he tried to get things back on track before his baser instincts bubbled up one more time. “And then you’re just feeling a little tickle of the nails on the crack of your butt sometimes?”

Erivo once again promised him that that was not the case, because the tissue is on the job, which led to Shepard — who said in 2021 that he and wife Kristen Bell sometimes don’t bathe their daughters for “five, six days” — proposing that if he had such formidable talons he would wrap his whole hand in TP to make a kind of bathroom “mitten.”

Showing remarkable patience, Erivo explained, “I fold.” Saying she was not offended by the question, but rather “annoyed,” she added, “I get it, but also, I’m a functioning adult and I’ve never walked around smelling like… you know… Here’s the thing, there are people who do not have nails who need to check how they’re wiping.”

The first part of Wicked opens in theaters on Friday (Nov. 22).

Listen to Erivo talk about nailing it in the loo below.

Will UMG’s Lawsuit Against Believe Usher In a New Era of Regulation for DIY Distribution?

“I feel like that guy in Don’t Look Up,” says Andrew Batey, co-CEO/co-founder of streaming fraud detection company Beatdapp. “I’ve been yelling about the comet coming for years, and so many people haven’t taken it seriously. Now, I think it’s arrived.”

On Nov. 4, Universal Music Group sued TuneCore and its parent company Believe in a $500 million copyright infringement lawsuit, claiming that TuneCore’s “business model” of letting users upload a massive volume of songs for a low flat rate is powered “by rampant piracy” and that TuneCore “makes little effort to hide its illegal actions.”

According to the lawsuit, some of these uploads are remixed or sped up versions of UMG hits and titled with slight misspellings of the artists or works they are infringing — like “Kendrik Laamar,” “Arriana Gramde,” “Jutin Biber” and “Llady Gaga.” UMG also alleges that TuneCore has “taken advantage of the content management claiming system” on YouTube “to divert” and “delay… payment of royalties” that belong to record labels.

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The nine-figure lawsuit serves as a searing indictment of the way one of the world’s largest DIY distributors is allegedly conducting its business. It’s also being viewed as an indictment of the business model of DIY distribution as a whole because, as Jamie Hart — founder of publishing administration company Hart & Songs — explains, “These problems are definitely not unique to TuneCore.” Throughout her career, Hart has spent time at SoundCloud and at Downtown’s YouTube royalty collection service AdRev (now part of FUGA), learning about the intricacies of rights management online, and why it can get so messed up. “This is happening across all self-upload distribution companies at a big rate, and it has been happening for years.”

Along with users profiting from content containing copyrighted material that doesn’t belong to them (sometimes colloquially referred to as “fraud,” “fraudulent content,” or “modified audio” in certain contexts), experts say DIY distributors are also usually the pipes that let in an excessive amount of songs that will be used in “streaming fraud” schemes — a term used to describe the process of artificially juicing stream counts to siphon money out of the royalty pool.

Batey and fellow Beatdapp co-founder/co-CEO Morgan Hayduk see this is the start of a serious crackdown on distribution companies like TuneCore, with “a small window for [distributors] to get on board” and clean up their issues with infringement and fraud before it leads to serious consequences. For those unwilling to put in the extra effort to prevent much of the illegal activity on their services, the Beatdapp leaders fear the financial penalties from streaming services or lawsuits from rights holders, like UMG, could be harsh enough to put some of the small players out of business and lead to consolidation.

“We don’t want to see consolidation,” Hayduk says. “It’s healthy to have a lot of distributors in the market, for users and for our business, too. We want to see them clean up their act, but they need to start now.”

Over the last few years, there have been a number of efforts made to address the growing problems in DIY distribution — from streaming fraud to copyright infringement to sheer volume. Last year, TuneCore, Distrokid, CD Baby, Symphonic, Downtown and more joined together to form the Music Fights Fraud coalition, an attempt to self-police these issues through a shared database. (Since then, Beatdapp alleges that there has only been an increased amount of streaming fraud across the industry.) Spotify also announced new amendments to its royalty payment models in an effort to curb these issues, including financial penalties for distributors and labels that perpetuate fraud.

But this fall, a number of high-profile instances of anti-fraud regulation have started popping up in quick succession. In September, federal prosecutors indicted a North Carolina musician in the first ever federal streaming fraud case, alleging he used two distributors to upload “hundreds of thousands” of AI-generated tracks, and then used bots to stream them, earning him more than $10 million since 2017.

Then, in October, TikTok cited issues with “fraud” as its reason for walking away from renewing its license with Merlin, a digital licensing coalition representing thousands of indie labels and distributors. Instead, TikTok reached out to Merlin members individually — something which TikTok says could help them curb fraud from specific members, but which Merlin calls an excuse to “fractionalize” its membership and “minimize” TikTok’s fees for indie music.

Experts are torn about whether or not the problems at these DIY distributors will be easy or hard to solve. One DIY distribution employee, who requested anonymity, says stopping bad activity is a never ending game of “wack-a-mole” and that it is “impossible to catch everything” even with a quality control team. “There’s so much content pushed through at once that a lot slips through the cracks.” They add, however, that there is too much of an emphasis on “quantity over quality” at these companies and that they need to hire more quality control personnel than they have right now.

But Larry Mills, senior vp of sales at Pex, a company that provides tools for content identification and rights management, believes “it actually isn’t that hard of a problem to solve. Some distributors and DSPs are just making a business decision to use lesser technologies that aren’t tuned to finding modified audio or covers until they are forced to.”

Beyond contracting a third-party service, like Pex or Beatdapp, or spending a millions on more full-time staffers, there are also much more simple measures that can be taken. Greg Hirschhorn, CEO/founder of distributor Too Lost and a member of the Music Fights Fraud coalition, said in an October interview that his company has seen significant success by simply requiring users to submit a photo ID and a selfie before uploading songs to Too Lost. “There’s no hiding from it, and it’s easy,” Hirschhorn says. “If you break the law using our site, I have your information, and I can just send it to local law enforcement or to the streaming service.” Hirschhorn claims he has offered to implement this same service for fellow MFF members, but he says no one has taken him up on it.

According to Mills, the new UMG lawsuit against Believe has encouraged more action. “Thankfully, people are starting to take this seriously. Our phones are certainly ringing more since [the UMG lawsuit],” he says.

An employee at one of the DIY distributors also has seen a change in attitude about these problems in light of the UMG lawsuit. “A lot of us [in distribution] have been talking about this lawsuit,” this person says. “This is a systemic issue in distribution. No company is blameless … Other distributors should be f-cking nervous.”

For those in the business of helping artists and writers collect their rightful royalties online, like Hart and Jon Hichborn, founder of royalty tracking company Records on the Wall, “There’s too much responsibility on the rights holder,” as Hichborn puts it, to police their copyrights. “It’s mind boggling. I track down royalties 24/7. Imagine if I wanted to be a musician who was writing and performing? There would not be enough time in the day to do it all.”

Still, the continued dysfunction and challenges stemming from DIY distributors has birthed a lucrative cottage industry for companies like Pex, Beatdapp, Hart & Songs, Records on the Wall and more that are designed to clean up the mess that is protecting copyrights and collecting royalties on the internet today. “My business unfortunately does thrive on everybody screwing up,” laughs Hichborn. “It’ll never go away.”

It’s unclear what the future looks like for DIY distributors. While Beatdapp foresees “extinction” for distributors that don’t get their act together, Hirshhorn predicts great change “in the amount of quality control, the amount of KYC [“know your customer” checks], the amount of diligence required,” but he doesn’t see it as an apocalyptic event. As he’s found with the implementation of ID checks, even if the scale of songs a distributor releases goes down some, a distributor can still thrive. Too Lost, he says, is doing better than ever, earning over $50 million in annual revenue this year.

“At the end of the day, you just shouldn’t be able to make money on the internet — whether it’s from music, gaming, or the creator economy — if you don’t disclose exactly who you are,” Hirshhorn says. “That just makes total sense… The music industry is always slow to adopt any changes, but this is what the future will look like.”