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Stevie Nicks has high hopes for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
In a new interview with Rolling Stone published Thursday (Oct. 24), the 76-year-old rock legend gushed about her famous friend, whom Nicks thinks “has a good man” (aka a certain Kansas City Chiefs tight end). “She is really smart, but she also went through a lot before,” the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman told the publication of Swift. “She’s in a good place right now. … I hope they fall deeper and deeper in love and ride off into the sunset.”
“[Travis] does his thing and she does her thing, and then they come back together and get married and have babies if she wants that,” Nicks continued. “I just want all of that for her.”
The “Edge of Seventeen” singer previously hung out with Swift and Kelce after one of the pop star’s July Eras Tour shows in Dublin. Elsewhere in the interview, Nicks said she gifted the football player a blanket — “That is what I buy for my friends if there’s a special occasion,” she said — and the star recently recorded a collaboration with his older brother, Jason Kelce, for the upcoming Philly Specials Christmas project.
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Also in the interview, Nicks spoke about voting for Kamala Harris in the Nov. 5 presidential election (“I never voted until I was 70 … It’s a big regret”), giving Lindsey Buckingham “300 million chances” before cutting him off for good, and toxic fan culture. While on the latter subject, she recalled Katy Perry once telling her “about the Internet armies of all the girl singers, and how cruel and rancid they were.”
“I said, ‘Well, I wouldn’t know because I’m not on the Internet,’” Nicks continued of their conversation. “She said, ‘So, who are your rivals?’ I just looked at her. It was my steely look. I said, ‘Katy, I don’t have rivals. I have friends. All the other women singers that I know are friends. Nobody’s competing. Get off the Internet and you won’t have rivals either.’”
Plus, the Rock & Roll Hall of Famer shared her thoughts on Chappell Roan. “Evidently she likes my music a lot,” Nicks said of the “Good Luck, Babe!” singer. “Me and a friend of mine went and looked at her schedule, and it was outrageous — what she’s already done and then what she’s going into. It’s as bad as any schedule we ever did, and she’s new, and she’s young. I said, ‘They’ll burn her out if that’s what they want to do, because there’s always somebody to replace you.’”
Nicks is fresh off the release of a new single titled “The Lighthouse,” which she wrote after the Supreme Court turned over Roe v. Wade in 2022. The performer gave the song its live debut on Saturday Night Live earlier this month during the Ariana Grande-hosted episode.
Shortly before dropping the anthemic track in September, Nicks endorsed the Harris-Walz campaign with an Instagram post referencing Swift, who also spoke out in favor of the Democratic ticket that month. “As my friend @taylorswift so eloquently stated, now is the time to research and choose the candidate that speaks to you and your beliefs,” she wrote at the time. “Your vote in this election may be one of the most important things you ever do.”
Both Jennie and Rosé are currently rolling out their next solo eras, and to celebrate, the BLACKPINK stars individually sat down with Buzzfeed Celeb to play with adorable baby animals while they answered questions.
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First up, Jennie, who recently dropped her empowering new single “Mantra,” revealed that she’s currently in a “hardworking, no rest, Jennie mode,” adding, “Hopefully after this album comes out, I can have some fun in my era.”
While she played around with the sweetest group of kittens — who were a bit shy at first but eventually warmed up to the K-pop idol — Jennie shared that she hopes fans feel the “good energy of “Mantra,” and “how I’m just really talking about embracing yourself and having fun all the time.”
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She also revealed the BLACKPINK song she’d put in a time capsule for future generations. “I think ‘Whistle,’ because I love that song and I think it’s a timeless song,” she explained. “It’s already been eight years since that song came out and I still listen to it here and there.”
For her interview, Rosé answered the same question. “I would pick ‘Kill This Love.’ It’s a bada– song,” she revealed.
The singer, who happily tried to wrangle energetic puppies during her interview, opened up about working with Bruno Mars on her new song, “APT.” She shared, “I am so lucky to have him on the song. He’s helped so much. He has a vision for everything. It’s so good. I’ve had times where I was struggling with something and he really has helped me so much in wrapping up this album. I’m such a big fan.
The song is set to be featured on her upcoming solo album rosie, which Rosé described as “an album full of my most honest stories and it’s just a representation of all the thoughts running through my mind in the past year. It’s a very personal one so hopefully people feel closer to me through the album.”
As for her fellow BLACKPINK members embarking on solo journeys, Rosé beamed with support. “I think it’s amazing. I’m so excited for everyone,” she said. “I’m their biggest fan. I’m proud of all of these girls. It’s nice to have these sisters go through similar journeys with me.”
Watch Jennie’s kitten interview and Rosé’s puppy interview below.
GloRilla nabs her second top 10-charting effort on Billboard’s Top Album Sales chart (dated Oct. 26), and with her best sales week yet, as Glorious debuts at No. 6. The title arrives at No. 6 with nearly 12,000 copies sold in the U.S. in the week ending Oct. 17, according to Luminate. The album was available in both a standard and bonus track digital download edition, as well as a signed CD edition.
GloRilla previously visited the top 10 with Anyways, Life’s Great… in 2022, debuting and peaking at No. 6.
Glorious additionally opens in the top 10 across multiple other charts: Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums (No. 2), Top Rap Albums (No. 2), Top Streaming Albums (No. 4) and the Billboard 200 (No. 5) – all with her best ranks yet on each chart.
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Billboard’s Top Album Sales chart ranks the top-selling albums of the week based only on traditional album sales. The chart’s history dates back to May 25, 1991, the first week Billboard began tabulating charts with electronically monitored piece count information from SoundScan, now Luminate. Pure album sales were the sole measurement utilized by the Billboard 200 albums chart through the list dated Dec. 6, 2014, after which that chart switched to a methodology that blends album sales with track equivalent album units and streaming equivalent album units.
Elsewhere on the Top Album Sales chart, Jelly Roll racks up his best sales week ever, and first No. 1, as Beautifully Broken bows atop the list with 114,000 sold. The album’s opening week sales were bolstered by its availability across seven vinyl variants, three CD variants (the CDs sold a combined 65,000, including a signed edition sold through the artist’s webstore), a cassette tape and three download album variants (the downloads sold 32,000). Net profits from pre-orders of the CD and vinyl in his webstore benefitted four charity organizations.
Charli XCX’s Brat flies 25-2 with 48,000 (up 1,281%) for its highest rank and best sales week yet. The surge follows the album’s two deluxe reissues released in the week ending Oct. 17. All versions of the album are combined for tracking and charting purposes. For the deluxe reissues (dubbed Brat and it’s completely different but also still brat), the album’s original tracklist was supersized on Oct. 11 to add in 16 remixes of the set’s songs (with guests including The 1975 and Ariana Grande; available on vinyl, CD, cassette and digital download). Then, on Oct. 14, the deluxe was plussed, adding a remix of “Spring Breakers” featuring Kesha (available as a digital download purchase).
Chappell Roan’s former No. 1 The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess dips 2-3 (14,000; up 6%), Sabrina Carpenter’s Short n’ Sweet is steady at No. 4 (14,000; up 6%), Coldplay’s Moon Music falls 1-5 in its second week (12,000; down 89%), Stray Kids’ chart-topping ATE rises 8-7 (9,000; up 7%), Billie Eilish’s Hit Me Hard and Soft jumps 12-8 (8,000; up 14%) and ENHYPEN’s chart-topping Romance: Untold rises 13-9 (7,000; up 10%).
Rounding out the top 10 is Myles Kennedy with the arrival of The Art of Letting Go, bowing at No. 10 with nearly 7,000. It’s the sixth top 10 for the artist.
Is it really summer without The Rolling Stones on tour? The rock icons have toured North America, Europe, or both, for every summer but three in the last 12 years, consistently topping charts and setting records. After a break in 2023, the Stones returned for the Hackney Diamonds Tour, playing 18 shows in 15 cities throughout the U.S. and Canada from the end of April through the middle of July. According to figures reported to Billboard Boxscore, the trek earned $235 million and sold 848,000 tickets.
The tour was in support of the band’s Hackney Diamonds album, released in October 2023. The set marked the band’s first album of original material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang. Hackney Diamonds debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 – the group’s highest-charting album since Bang also hit No. 3 – and extended the band’s record for the most top 10s on the chart.
The Hackney Diamonds Tour kicked off at Houston’s NRG Stadium on April 28, 2024,, bringing the Stones to more than 40,000 fans. By the time the band wrapped at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara on July 17, it had scored the highest-earning summer of its career. Sixty, its 2022 jaunt, earned $120.8 million, and the biggest of its four No Filter Tour legs brought in $177.8 million in 2019. While they’ve made more money on years-long treks, Mick Jagger & co. have never earned more than $200 million in a single season.
The Stones’ 2024 run was highlighted by double-headers in East Rutherford, N.J. (17 miles outside New York City), Chicago and Inglewood, Calif. (11 miles from downtown Los Angeles). Each of those engagements grossed more than $20 million, topped by the New Jersey shows at MetLife Stadium on May 23 and 26, which earned a combined $29.2 million and sold 105,000 tickets.
Those MetLife dates mark a career peak, setting the highest gross of the Stones’ 35-year Boxscore history. The Inglewood and Chicago dates also fall in the top 10, while Denver, Foxborough, Las Vegas and Philadelphia line up in the band’s all-time top 20, all between $15-16 million.
Every market on the tour delivered an eight-figure gross, with the lone exception of Glendale, Ariz., whose May 7 State Farm Stadium show grossed $8.4 million and sold 44,800 tickets.
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The Hackney Diamonds Tour sets a new high for The Rolling Stones and pushes the band further into uncharted Boxscore territory. This is its sixth tour to earn more than $200 million and 10th to gross more than $100 million. Both counts are Boxscore records, extending their lead for the most nine-figure tours, now three $100-million tours away from the group’s closest competitors.
Dating back to a report for two shows at Philadelphia’s Veterans Stadium on Aug. 31-Sept. 1, 1989, The Rolling Stones have earned $2.873 billion and sold 28.9 million tickets.
In a recent interview on the Zach Sang Show, Big Sean gave his Detroit OG Eminem his props by comparing him to Goku from Dragon Ball Z.
When asked what he’d learned from Em, Sean answered, “What dedication is.” He added, “Eminem is the biggest rapper in the world and he be in the studio every day, every day he can be in there. He’s dedicated to it. He care about rapping like Goku care about fighting. Eminem is in that mug, in that studio, every day, dawg.”
Sean then told an anecdote about one of the first times they worked together when he was hesitant to ask the Detroit legend for his autograph. “We were eating Jet’s Pizza in the studio watching South Park,” he began. “At the end of the session, I was almost finished with my verse, and he was like, ‘I’mma get outta here,’ it was getting late. And I’m a huge Eminem fan, clearly. I still got Marshall Mathers LP, Slim Shady LP, Eminem Show — actual CDs, and I was going to bring them to sign, and I didn’t ’cause I thought, ‘That’s probably a little f—in’ lame.’”
He continued: “So, at the end of the session, [Eminem] breaks out my CD and he’s like, ‘Yo, can you sign ‘em?’” He was like, ‘They’re not for me, though,” Sean remembered. “That was a lesson then. I’m like, ‘Bro, never be too cool to be a fan of who you a fan of, dawg.’ … I couldn’t f—ing believe it. I was like, ‘Wow, what a guy.’”
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Eminem’s work ethic is the stuff of legend. Akon once told a story about how Em treats the studio like a 9-5 job. “Working with him made me look at the business different because he was the first artist that I worked with that actually treated the business like a real job,” he explained while appearing on Hot 97’s Ebro in the Morning. “He comes in at 9 a.m. every day to the studio, takes his lunch break at 1, and is out of there by 5 p.m. It’s like a schedule.”
Big Sean recently released his first album since 2020, dropping Better Me Than You in August.
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Lil Xan has been ordered to pay more than $27,000 for pulling a gun during an argument with a man back in June 2019 outside a 7-Eleven in Los Angeles.
Billboard viewed court documents surrounding Wednesday’s (Oct. 23) ruling ordering Xan — born Nicholas Diego Lanos — to fork over $27,823.89 in damages among other costs to the complaint’s filer, Anthony Sanchez.
Sanchez originally filed a complaint seeking assault and battery damages along with claims of intentional infliction of emotional distress. Judge Steven A. Ellis awarded Sanchez in excess of the five-figure sum with a default judgment, meaning its possible Xan didn’t respond to the suit altogether.
Lil Xan and Sanchez were engaged in a heated debate in a 7-Eleven parking lot after Sanchez approached Xan and appeared to taunt the “Betrayed” rapper about his criticism of 2Pac in 2018.
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“What the f— you want, bruh? Get the f— out,” Xan can be heard spewing on footage of the 2019 altercation obtained by TMZ. Xan also can be seen brandishing a weapon while on the passenger side of his Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon. “Look at my car,” he jibed at Sanchez.
Per the lawsuit, Sanchez allegedly feared for his life when having the gun pointed in his direction. He claimed that Xan drove off and threw a cup he was drinking out at him and some of the contents got on his shirt, causing him emotional distress.
Sanchez believes he didn’t pose any threat to Lil Xan and added that he incurred medical expenses and lost out on potential earnings following the exchange.
The moment that instigated the argument came when Lil Xan was being interviewed by Revolt in 2018 and was giving “clout ratings” to various stars. He dished out a lowly 2 out of 10 for 2Pac and claimed he made “boring music.”
Xan’s Pac criticism drew plenty of backlash. The rapper told AllHipHop last year that he regretted bashing 2Pac and admitted he wished the interview never went up since he “wasn’t in a good place.”
“That interview should’ve never even been aired ‘cause I wasn’t in a good place during the interview,” he said. “I was angry at that time. And all that came down to was a result of me just trying to get the interview done quicker. I was like, ‘Next question. Next question.’ And then they just give me questions and I’m messing around.”
Xan continued: “I think 2Pac is a legend. I don’t have to explain myself to anybody, but I grew up on a lot of old school West Coast, a lot of old school East Coast. But after that, that was just a little mishap. It was the result of me not being as mature as I am today. Inexperienced with interviews a lot, too.”
On the music side, Lil Xan returned to release his Diego album independently via his Xanarchy Militia Music label on Sept. 20.
Cheetos left its mark on Miami as Billboard Latin Music Week’s 35-year anniversary saw panel programming, evening performances and more honor the concept of community and paying it forward.
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For the third year in a row, Cheetos spread its Deja Tu Huella campaign across the annual affair in the 305, with the focus on inspiring and uplifting the Latino community. During the 35-year anniversary week, the brand teamed up with Billboard to nod to the present and look towards the future through music, education and more.
Festivities kicked off on Tuesday, October 15, when rising stars Omar Courtz and Saiko were joined by rising Mexican designer Kiko Baez and celebrity yoga coach Yudy Arias for a conversation dubbed Deja Tu Huella: Inspire Who’s Next moderated by Billboard’s Isabela Raygoza, Associate Editor of Billboard Español. Whether the discussion fell on the folks who have inspired them or appreciation for their influence as of today, the panelists were quick to share gratitude for where they’ve come from and what they’re looking to achieve.
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Following the Tuesday programming was the Next-Gen Reggaeton: An Evening Curated by J Balvin presented by Cheetos event. Featuring Dei V, Omar Courtz, Saiko and a surprise performance from J Balvin, the jam-packed evening at Wynwood Marketplace saw attendees get a dose of reggaeton from different eras, while experiencing the House of Huella activation, a one-of-a-kind experience that fused together the impact of the present and what’s to come in the future as people continue to leave their mark.
The activation also saw fans partake in the Paint the Room Orange activity area, where they were encouraged to leave their mark by writing messages on mirrored tiles to contribute to a massive disco ball that illuminated during Balvin’s set. Elsewhere, the futuristic Cheetosverse with a portrait wall honoring the Deja tu Huella ambassadors and Chester Cheetah found fans walking into an installation filled with all kinds of photo-worthy moments. Oh, and you can’t forget the Cheetos samples with various flavors for the taking!
At the end of Balvin’s set, the star also unveiled Corissa Barrow, a psychologist and mental health advocate, as Cheetos’ newest Deja tu Huella Ambassador. The Houston, Texas native will hit the road with the brand for their community college tour in support of its Uplift Scholarship program. The tour stops feature opportunities like Culinary Creator competitions, workshops, and mentorship sessions where students will be encouraged to leave their mark and invest in their dreams.
If you want to learn how you can leave your mark with Cheetos, head over to Deja Tu Huella’s official website. For more of our Miami festivities, scroll on below to see hot shots from Cheetos and Billboard’s Latin Music Week partnership!
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It’s refreshing to discover new artists in this day and age. The Internet has essentially blurred the lines between what constitutes as underground these days, and depending on who you’re talking to, one can make the case that the world wide web has replaced the underground scene in hip-hop completely with social platforms like TikTok being critical to new music discovery.
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Enter Laila!, the teenage Brooklyn phenom with rap royalty coursing through her veins. The daughter of Yasiin Bey (formally knowns as Mos Def), her songs “Like That” and “Not My Problem” went viral before the masses really knew what she looked like. It wasn’t until she performed the songs on YouTube shows On the Radar and From the Block, that we really got a chance to put a face to the music we kept hearing on social media. She sings, raps, writes, and produces everything herself and her stage presences isn’t half bad either.
Last month, Laila! performed her first headlining show at Baby’s All Right in Brooklyn, a place that’s earning the reputation as the first venue to catch your favorite up-and-coming artist. The place was packed to the brim and featured a diverse crowd of all races, ages, and creeds coupled with an infectious energy in the air as we all waited for her to hit the stage. She ran through the hits, but also performed some cuts from her earlier work featured on her In Ctrl! EP that fans in the crowd seemed to know the words to. There was also a part of the show where she reminded me of her father.
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In the middle of her set, Laila! brought out the keyboard and started jamming out and singing. Yasiin did something similar in back in 2010 during his Martin Luther King Day Weekend performance at the Highline Ballroom. During the middle of his performance, Bey hopped on the drums and started jamming out, too. I don’t know, it just felt like a surreal, full circle moment. “That’s sweet,” she said when I brought it up during our talk. “I get anxious, but I like being on stage. I like showing people that I’m versatile.” And versatile she is, all you have to do is check out her debut album Gap Year! if you haven’t already.
We talked about a wide range of topics including her freestyling with her father and Jay Electronica in Puerto Rico when she was just a kid. Hopefully, that footage will be released from the vaults one of these days. Maybe for the documentary.
Check out our chat with Laila!, October’s Rookie of the Month, below.
I went to your show at Baby’s All Right in Brooklyn, so I want to lead off with that. Tell me about that experience, because you seemed nervous at first, but you did pretty good for it being your first headlining show.
Yeah, I was definitely really nervous. I always get really nervous before I got on stage. I don’t know what it is, I just get super anxious. But then when I saw everyone’s energy and how excited they were to be there, it was just really beautiful. It was special for me, so I kind of was able to calm down and give them a good show.
I was impressed because people knew the words to songs that were relatively new.
That was the most insane part to me. Just to hear them, not even just singing the most popular songs, but the other ones too. It was just insane. It was very big for me. It was also my first time ever in front of my own audience, people that really came specifically to see me. It was really special. I was able to take pictures with some of them and sign stuff. And it was just really sweet. It was the sweetest thing ever.
I’m assuming you had a lot of family and friends there too because it was a packed house, and you could tell some people were family.
I had some people from my high school, my tías [my aunts] were there. Like, just everybody. But then there were kids with their parents and it was the cutest thing ever. It felt very supportive.
You mentioned your “tías” and you had a voicemail of your grandmother Mami Nelly on your album telling you how proud she is of you. Are you Dominican or Puerto Rican? The Caribbean delegation is looking to claim you.
Yeah, she has a thick accent. I’m Dominican and African-American. My mom is Dominican and my dad is from here. My accent comes out sometimes [Laughs.]
Your sister Sani DJ’d your show and she killed it. Is that the same sister that was freestyling about you not wanting to go to school on your album?
Yeah, it was so funny because me and my sister put the whole show together. We rehearsed for like two weeks and put everything together, and we literally did not even think about doing the freestyle song live. We didn’t even think about that. Looking back, we should’ve done it, but we were so focused on making sure everything was right. Definitely a learning experience, but it was also very fun doing the show with her.
I liked her set. She was playing U.K. garage and jungle, some Jersey Club, and mainly dance music. I know you mentioned Brent Faiyaz, Frank Ocean, Solange and SZA — these are people that you listen to a lot — but what are some other genres or artists that you also listen to and draw inspiration from?
I really like jungle music, too. My sister Sani introduced me more to like jungle music because she’s a DJ. She has such a broad taste in music. I feel like she’s kind of helped me in that aspect where she’ll play really good club tracks from forever ago, or a lot of old mixes. The thing that’s really cool about it is you can find a mix and sometimes it’s just specific to that period of time or that specific DJ, so you can’t find that same version of the song anywhere else, which is kind of cool about garage music or jungle music.
You could hear a song that you like and then hear a part of it that you’ve never heard before, and it’s only specific to that remix. I listen to jungle, I listen to a lot of Budgie. He does sample flips. He’s mad cool, and I found him on SoundCloud, but he does like stuff like that. I also listen to a lot of older ICYTWAT beats when I’m trying to get into a hype mood.
His song “Shirt” is one of the greatest songs ever. I still play some ICYTWAT’s Soundcloud remixes and mixes.
I listening to his older stuff, those are my favorite albums from him, like Fubu vs. Twat any ICYTWAT Radio.
He’ll have some ill flips too, like he’ll remake songs and s–t like that.
I love listening to all kinds of flips. Also, I just be playing my SoundCloud, it just be playing shit. Like once you play a song, it’ll keep recommending really good stuff.
Do you have any flips or remixes that you have in the stash?
I certainly do, and I used to post them on TikTok. So like, some of the real OG people that follow me, they’d be like, “Where’s this flip? Where’s the Aaliyah flip? You need to post this.” And I’m like, “Yo, the fact that they remember that is so insane because they’ve been around for a minute.” I have so many that I want to put out.
You were working the crowd and it was crazy when you started playing the keyboard. Is the piano the only instrument that you know how to play?
I would say officially, yes. When I was younger, I used to be in band like in elementary school and stuff like that. And the first instrument that I learned was the trumpet. My mom was a teacher, so they had a steel pan band. So I would like, go there and play steel pan sometimes. But then, yeah, I think piano was like the first instrument that I learned that really stuck with me. I feel like it’s the basis for everything that I produce, or everything that I make. But I’m not classically trained, and I really want to learn, so hopefully that’s something I build on in my future.
When you were on the keys and Juan was on the guitar, that was my favorite part of the whole show.
I think that was probably one of my favorite parts as well, because it was just so special. And when I was putting together the show, and thinking about what I wanted, I was like, I have to have Juan come and do “Talent Show.” We made this song together, and it’s so special to me. And to hear people singing along was even more insane for me.
The show felt like a New York show before the pandemic. There used to be shows with that energy all the time in the city. It was interesting to experience. You and Cash Cobain have NYC on lock right now. The city is behind you guys.
Yeah, I love that. That’s so sweet. That’s all I ever wanted to do. Whenever I talked to my team about doing a show, ,all I wanted was it for just to feel like good vibes, comfortable, just very familial so everyone could enjoy themselves in a good environment. That’s all I’ve ever wanted. So I’m glad that it felt that way.
So, you taught yourself how to play the piano and the keyboard. What do you use when you make beats? Any programs or drum pads?
More often than not, I’m actually just using the keys on the keyboard because it’s easy and it’s simple for me, but then a lot of times I also just use my MIDI keyboard that I could just put into my computer, and then I’ll just play like that. And yeah, it has beat pads on it too, which is cool, because you can do fun little stuff there. If I wanna play the drums, and maybe don’t wanna use the keyboard, I can use that.
Do use a program like Fruity Loops or something?
I use GarageBand, it’s very helpful. There’s so much good stuff on there that I feel people tend to overlook.
You know when you’re young and growing up, you don’t always know what your parents do for a living. Were you always musically inclined, like even before you knew what your father did for a living?
Yeah, it was just always a part of me. My mom has videos of me just singing and doing all this stuff, and I was like, a little, little kid. I wasn’t at the age where I knew what my dad did. The moment I could form words, I think I was singing and dancing and doing all that stuff. I don’t know a life without music, or making music.
When did it really click for you, though, where you wanted to take music seriously? Angela Yee mentioned in an interview with that you were in Puerto Rico freestyling with your father and Jay Electronica, when you were really young — which, I wish there was audio or a video of this. I wanna hear this freestyle.
I feel like my mom probably has a video [laughs]. I think it wasn’t until my sophomore year of high school. I always wanted to make music and have that be my career. That was always my plan. I was like, ‘I’m gonna get out of school and then I’m gonna start making music and, you know, whatever.’ But I was always so shy and so nervous about it, and I just didn’t really know what I was doing. So, at certain point I had to stop being so afraid and follow my passion do what it is that I feel like I love to do the most. I put out my first song, and that’s kind of where it all began.
So this was when you’re 16, right? When you made “Like That.” Do you feel like you’ve gotten better since then already?
I think I’ve definitely gotten a lot better. I don’t know how to explain it, but once you make something, you’ve sat with the feelings, you felt the way that you felt, you’ve written the lyrics, and then once you release it and it’s out there, it’s kind of like, OK, I don’t necessarily have those same feelings or I’m not the same person. It’s almost like a release. You know what I mean? I don’t know. So I feel like, when I look back at “Like That,” it was a period of time in my life, but now I’m moving on, and I’m growing up, and with everything that I make, it feels like I’m growing up a little bit more.
So yeah, I think that the stuff that I’m making now versus “Like That,” I think it it shows my growth in that sense, even just as a person, maybe not so much like sonically, maybe it doesn’t sound a million times different, but as a person, I feel different.
I definitely get what you’re saying. You blew up so fast and I’m curious about how old some of the songs are on Gap Year!
Yeah, that’s actually such a good question, because Gap Year! is basically just a compilation of the stuff that I made from the time I was, like, 16 until now. So a lot of the songs on there are actually older. “If You’re Listening,” I recorded that when I was 16. “We’re So Over,” too. But then I made “Want To” around four months before we dropped the album. I made the beat for “Are You Down?” maybe when I just turned 16. That was one of the first beats that I made where I was like, “Yo, I’m kind of good. Maybe I’m nice at this like, maybe I could really make beats.” I made the “Like That” beat when I was 15, and didn’t record on it until about a year later. It was a blend of the journey that I’ve taken with music and learning how to make beats.
You mentioned feeling anxious when you go on stage. Do you feel any pressure right now?
Yeah, sometimes. I feel like I always feel pressure, though. I’ve always felt pressure even before I had put out a song, even before people followed me, or anything like that. I always felt pressure because… I don’t know, sometimes pressure can be bad, but sometimes it also can feel like I wanna get this done, I wanna execute an idea I have, or whatever. And when I say pressure, it’s not like pressure from my family or pressure from external people, because I always have so much love and support around me, which I’m so grateful and thankful for. Everybody’s always just trying to make sure I’m good or whatever, just whatever I need. They’re always there for me. I’m just really grateful about that. But I think the pressure kind of comes from within. I want to make sure I’m doing everything to the fullest capability. I’m just always trying to be better than I was before.
This is a complicated question, but how would you describe your sound?
I think I really would describe my sound as fresh and fly and cool, but also nostalgic, I pull from so many things that I love. I have such a love for R&B and writing. I always think so melodically. And a lot of that comes from my biggest inspirations, and I kind of take the bits and pieces that I can.
I feel like an important thing about music and even human life, is that we learn through imitating. We see something we like, and we try to become that. For me as a producer, it’s been really interesting being able to take like, ‘Okay, I like this progression, or I like the way that this bassline sounds, or I like the way that the snare hits here on this song. And you take those little bits and pieces and almost transform that into something that’s completely different by studying things that I really like, whether it’s The Neptunes or an Aaliyah song or whatever, or a Darkchild beat. I’ll sit there and I’ll listen to things that really make that specific song click for me. Nostalgic, but fresh is how I would describe my music.
Yeah, it’s like an amalgamation of all these things. It’s like retro and futuristic at the same time.
Thank you. That’s what I’m going for.
Your On the Radar performance made me look into you more — and and then obviously when people figured out who your father was, everyone’s minds were blown.
Yeah, it was very funny how it kind of just built up and people started. None of this has been planned. The only thing that was planned was to do something cool like On the Radar. The whole objective was to get my face out there. I wanted people to get a sense of who I am or what I do.
As it was going viral, were you like, “Yo, I have to put my name on this somehow?”
I just wanted people to be able to connect the song with who I am, like, as an artist, because I feel like, I don’t know, nowadays, it’s so easy for the artists to get lost in the shuffle when something gets really popular. So, I just kind of wanted to do something. And I did the From the Block, which was really cool. That was just an awesome experience. Doing that like at the playground was mad fun. But yeah, I wanted to do stuff that people could be like, “OK, this is her, this is her face. This is what she’s doing.” It was such a cool moment for me, aand I did not anticipate how crazy it was gonna go at all. And then even the whole thing with my dad, I couldn’t have anticipated that would happen. That was the Internet.
So, you wanted to be a rapper first, right?
Yes. When I was a little kid, I used to always love singing songs and always write songs. But I really used to freestyle. I had a whole thing, I had a little swag. I was probably, like, nine or or 10, but I used to write all these raps, and I used to go to school, and I used to show all my friends. It was my thing.
And I remember I had this one teacher, and I was like, “I guess we were talking about our future?” This was in middle school, so I must have been like, 11 or 12, and they were like, “What do you want your career to be?” And I was like, “I’m going to be a rapper.” And the teacher was like, “Sure.” That always stuck with me — because what do you mean, “Sure?” Like, you really don’t think that I could do this? From that day on, I was like, “You know what? This is exactly why I’m going to do whatever the f–k I want to do.” And I was like, 11, but I was like, “No” — because what do you mean, “Sure?” Like, I know, I know I could do this.
Did you have a rap name?
I never had a rap name. I was just writing raps. Like, I wasn’t rap name. Even now, sometimes I’m like, damn, should I have come up with an artist name or something cool, but I just couldn’t think of one. I literally just couldn’t think of one. That’s why I put the exclamation point, because there was too many other Lailas and I just couldn’t think of anything else.
Now that the the album is out, are you going to produce for other artists? I know one of your dreams is to produce for artists that you like. Send some beat packs out.
Absolutely. That’s what I’m working towards now. I really want to be able to work with other artists that I admire, but I really love working with artists in person, like I like to show, like, I don’t know. I like to see how people feel about what they’re listening to. I prefer to show people what I’ve been working on when I’m with them. Let’s actually connect. And feel the music together.
Across Green Day’s 12 shows in September — 11 at stadiums, plus an amphitheater show in Austin, Texas — the band sold 415,000 tickets at an average ticket price of $114.71, combining for earnings of $47.5 million according to figures reported to Billboard Boxscore. That puts the California trio’s The Saviors Tour at No. 1 on Billboard’s monthly Top Tours ranking.
The Saviors Tour kicked off in June with a $33.8 million run in Europe, before crossing the Atlantic for a 26-city tour of the United States and Canada. Though Green Day had sprinkled stadiums late in the 2004-05 American Idiot World Tour and then committed fully to the venues with Fall Out Boy and Weezer on the 2021-22 Hella Mega Tour, this marks the band’s first solo headlining run to predominantly play stadiums.
The Saviors Tour is named after Green Day’s 14th studio album. The set debuted at No. 4 on the Billboard 200 earlier this year and spawned “Dilemma,” which spent eight weeks atop Alternative Airplay. But the trek helped juice up the band’s reach by calling back to two of its landmark albums, celebrating the 30th anniversary of Dookie and the 20th anniversary of American Idiot by playing both LPs in full each night.
In September, Green Day hit a high for its entire North American leg, with $5.7 million and 47,800 tickets at SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif. That’s one of three entries for the band on Top Boxscores, at No. 24. Dates at San Francisco’s Oracle Park and San Diego’s Petco Park follow at Nos. 27 and 29, respectively.
It’s uncommon for an act to be No. 1 on Top Tours without a similarly high placement on Top Boxscores. Throughout 2024, the highest-grossing touring act has always had at least one entry in the top 10 of Top Boxscores, with the same act ruling both charts in five of the right months before September.
Further, in the 51 editions of Billboard’s monthly Boxscore charts since Feb. 2019, the artist at No. 1 on Top Tours was in the top 10 of Top Boxscores 43 times. Of the eight instances where they did not overlap, four were by Trans-Siberian Orchestra during their annual December takeover. That group routinely rules Top Tours without making impact on Top Boxscores, assembling its massive monthly total by playing multiple shows per day, with the help of two coastal touring ensembles.
Though there is only one iteration of Green Day responsible for its September victory, the strategy is similar. The punk-rock icons have the month’s biggest tour by volume, playing 12 stadium shows between Sept. 1-28. The acts that lead Top Boxscores – Coldplay, Metallica, Bruno Mars – all held splashy multi-night engagements in international territories, but didn’t tour consistently throughout the month.
Timing also helps. In August, Green Day’s $47.5-million gross would have sat behind the entire top five, helmed by Zach Bryan above $90 million and Coldplay over $80 million. The former took September off and the latter wrapped its European leg on Sept. 2, clearing a path for Billie Joe & co. to claim their first monthly victory.
Still, the individual shows on The Saviors Tour mark the biggest of Green Day’s storied career. While the SoFi Stadium shows were the biggest of the North American leg, a June 29 show at London’s Wembley Stadium ($7.9 million; 76,000 tickets) topped the entire tour. It was also the highest-grossing and best-attended night of the band’s entire reported Boxscore history.
Further, Green Day’s 25 top-earning concert engagements all come from this year’s tour. In all, The Saviors Tour grossed $132.4 million and sold 1.2 million tickets, easily ending as the band’s highest-grossing and best-selling tour ever.
Directly following Green Day on Top Tours are two of the biggest R&B acts on the road. Bruno Mars is No. 2 with $43.8 million and Usher is No. 3 with $36 million. The former played in Indonesia, Malaysia and Taiwan (plus one show in Las Vegas). Three shows at Jakarta’s Beach City International Stadium account for nearly half of Mars’ total monthly gross, bringing in $21.5 million from 142,000 tickets.
Notably, Mars is not technically on a tour, rather playing one-off engagements around his ongoing residency at Las Vegas’ Dolby Live. His last trek was the 24K Magic World Tour, which earned $396.1 million and sold 3.6 million tickets in 2017-18. His current Vegas stint is among the top 10 residencies in Boxscore history, now up to $138.8 million.
Usher, on the other hand, is amidst his first proper headline tour since 2015, after closing out his own Vegas residency late last year. Usher: Past Present Future kicked off in August, averaging $2.3 million per show in September. Its biggest stop so far was a four-night run at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center, which brought in $10.2 million and sold 58,000 tickets.
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Rock tours flood the rest of the top 10, with Metallica, Jeff Lynne’s ELO and Pearl Jam following at Nos. 4-5 and 8, respectively. Coldplay, Twenty One Pilots and the Eagles line up consecutively just outside the top 10.
While Green Day crowns Top Tours while missing the top 10 of Top Boxscores, Coldplay does the opposite, at No. 1 on the latter chart while sitting at No. 11 on the former. Coldplay only had two shows during September, but they made them count. The British quartet played four concerts at Dublin’s Croke Park – two on Aug. 29-30, which counted toward the August chart, and two on Sept. 1-2. The September dates grossed $24.8 million and sold 165,000 tickets.
Further down on Top Boxscores, Sebastian Maniscalco grossed $10.7 million across five nights at Madison Square Garden, earning the No. 8 entry. It’s the highest-grossing report for a comedian in Boxscore history. The number of comedy acts who can play one night at an arena is small, so consider Maniscalco one of very few who could sell out five.
With the first quarter of the 21st century coming to a close, Billboard is spending the next few months counting down our staff picks for the 25 greatest pop stars of the last 25 years. You can see the stars who have made our list so far here, and now we remember the century in Kanye West — whose career has featured near-unparalleled runs of artistic brilliance and pop cultural centrality, but whose legacy has grown more complicated by the year over the last decade.
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It’s funny now to think of a time when confusion over Kanye West’s first name was a common issue. Like NBA star Dwyane Wade (who, like West, also went pro in 2003-04), a lot of people who hadn’t seen or heard his name before – an Ethiopian-French name meaning “only one” – mentally jumbled the placement of the “y,” leading to a lot of first-time misspellings and mispronunciations when bracing it for the first time. The Netflix documentary jeen-yuhs includes an early-’00s scene of an unknowing receptionist referring to Kanye as “Cayenne,” and West himself even bemoaned the then-still-common cognition error in his 2005 hit “Diamonds From Sierra Leone”: “Now all I need is y’all to pronounce my name/ It’s Kanye, but some of my plaques, they still say ‘Kayne.’”
Flash forward to two decades later, and it’s damn near impossible to imagine a single person on the planet who doesn’t know Kanye’s name. For a solid 20 years now, the monocultural figure has been in headlines on a weekly basis – sometimes daily, sometimes hourly – for just about every reason an artist can be. He’s been attached to stories about every kind of commercial and critical achievement: chart-topping singles and albums, best-of year-end and decade-end list placements, award wins and losses – even ones that weren’t his own. He’s also been at the center of celebrity weddings, billion-dollar business dealings, friendships and feuds with plenty of the other most famous people of the 21st century; one sitting U.S. president publicly thanked him for his “very cool” service, another called him a jackass.
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And he’s also dominated the news for things no one should ever want to be known for – for ignorant comments and for allegations of terrible behavior, and for ensuing backlash that pushed him to the fringes of an industry he once lorded over from the absolute center. But even in 2024 – and even after he legally changed his name to the less scrambleable “Ye” – you can still never go too long without hearing the name Kanye. That’s how inextricable Mr. West was to American life in the first two decades of this century, that’s how brilliant his music and artistry were for the great majority of that period, that’s how blinding his sheer star power was throughout, and that’s how unshakeable he ultimately still remains in the culture today.
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But before Kanye was the Kanye that the whole world would know, he began the 21st century as a Chi-town college dropout still trying to make his name as a producer. In the late ‘90s, he’d gotten beats on albums by hitmakers like Jermaine Dupri, Foxy Brown and Goodie Mob, but in 2000 that he would land the placement that would jumpstart the next phase of his career: “This Can’t Be Life,” from Jay-Z’s The Dynasty: Roc La Familia. The beat exemplified Kanye’s signature early-career production style: a classic soul sample, pitched up to the heavens, laid over the knocking snare from Dr. Dre’s “Xxplosive.” The song wasn’t a single, but it was a highlight from Jay’s third straight No. 1 album, getting him in the good graces of the rapper (and his Roc-a-Fella label) who was about to become the most powerful in hip-hop.
That takeover kicked off in earnest on 2001’s The Blueprint, Jay-Z’s career-defining masterpiece, on which Kanye placed five beats (including, appropriately, Jay’s beef track “Takeover”). The most important song on the set for the producer was “Izzo (H.O.V.A.),” a Jackson 5-lifting pop-rap singalong which gave the rapper his first Hot 100 top 10 hit as a lead artist, and gave the producer his first Hot 100 hit, period. From there, the floodgates opened for Kanye, and by the end of 2002, he’d scored Hot 100 hits with Scarface, Trina and Talib Kweli – as well as second Jay smash “03 Bonnie & Clyde,” this time with a newly solo Beyoncé riding shotgun – making him a rising star in a golden age of superproducers.
But Kanye wasn’t satisfied with superproducerdom, since he’d long harbored aspirations of being an MC as well. While by 2002, hip-hop producers grabbing the mic had become relatively common – Kanye’s production heroes Dr. Dre and Q-Tip had both found stardom doing so in the ‘90s, while Pharrell’s falsetto was becoming as ubiquitous in 2000s top 40 as his beats – Kanye found difficulty convincing labels to take him seriously as a rapper, partly because his middle-class image and rhymes largely conflicted with the street rap ruling radio at the time. Eventually, Roc-a-Fella signed him — in large part to keep his beatmaking talents in-house — but even they weren’t totally convinced yet.
His debut single would quickly validate their decision. While Kanye had been garnering notice with mixtapes like Get Well Soon and I’m Good, as well as for additional hit beats for Alicia Keys (“You Don’t Know My Name”) and Ludacris (“Stand Up,” his first Hot 100 No. 1 as a producer), “Through the Wire” was the song that brought Kanye to national renown. Inspired by a near-fatal 2002 car accident – he rapped the song (over a chipmunked sample from Chaka Khan’s ‘80s R&B hit “Through the Fire”) while his jaw was still wired shut, hence the title – “Wire” introduced Kanye as a clever, compelling and culturally omnivorous underdog, winning listeners over with both its triumphant message and its well-placed references to everything from Vanilla Sky to Making the Band. Helped by an MTV-conquering living-collage music video, the song reached No. 15 on the Hot 100, establishing Kanye’s two-way bonafides and building massive buzz for his debut album.
The College Dropout, released in Feb. 2004, lived up to the hype. Drawing rapturous reviews and debuting at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 with 441,000 in first-week sales, the album spawned three more huge hits in “All Falls Down,” “Jesus Walks” and “Slow Jamz” (his first Hot 100 No. 1 as a recording artist, though the song was originally featured on fellow Chicago rapper Twista’s Kamikaze album with Kanye as a featured artist). The album made Kanye a cultural phenomenon and media darling, as his pink polos, popped collars and unique combination of arrogance and insecurity (“We all self-conscious, I’m just the first to admit it,” he boasted on “Falls”) made him an irresistible presence, and his oft-uplifting storytelling drew stark contrast with the crime tales and caddishness of the previous year’s breakout rapper, 50 Cent. (50 would later theorize that his own ubiquity directly led to Kanye’s subsequent success.)
In particular, “Jesus Walks” took Kanye into the center of public discourse for his grappling with his faith in a way that was extremely rare (and risky) for pop music at the time. The song only reached No. 11 on the Hot 100, lower than “Falls” and “Jamz,” but made its way to a lot of new fans outside of mainstream hip-hop, and drew the most critical acclaim of any of Dropout’s singles. “Jesus” nominated for two awards at the 2005 Grammys, where Ye’s attendance was a source of much discussion in the lead-up – since he’d previously crashed the stage at the 2004 American Music Awards to protest country hitmaker Gretchen Wilson beating him for best new artist. The awards outburst – certainly not the last of its kind for Ye – drew some backlash and ratcheted up Grammy night tension, which turned out to be for naught when he won best rap album for Dropout. “Everybody wanted to know what I would do if I didn’t win,” Kanye offered in his still-oft-referenced acceptance speech. “I guess we’ll never know.”
As successful as Kanye’s debut was, his sophomore album would prove it was just the beginning. Late Registration debuted at No. 1 in Aug. 2005 with nearly two times the first-week number of Dropout, and its second single – the Jamie Foxx-featuring “Gold Digger,” a comedic and absurdly catchy tribute to (and warning about) get-rich-quick female social climbers – became Kanye’s first No. 1 as a lead artist, and an immediate pop classic. The album’s expanded sonic palette, aided by co-producer (and regular Fiona Apple collaborator) Jon Brion, proved Ye was no one-trick wonder as a beatsmith, while songs like “Hey Mama” and “Heard ‘Em Say” plumbed new depths of personal and political subject matter lyrically. The latter side of Ye would also come into full focus that year on a televised benefit for those hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina, where his frustration over the then-President’s slow response in providing aid to the less-well-off victims of the incident boiled over into his second unforgettable quote of 2005: “George Bush doesn’t care about Black people.”
Kanye would spend much of 2006 touring – taking a brief pause for another stage-crashing incident at the ‘06 MTV EMAs, where he greeted news of his “Touch the Sky” losing best video to Justice vs. Simien’s “We Are Your Friends” with a loud “Oh, HELL no!” – and drawing inspiration for his next studio album, 2007’s “stadium status”-aspiring Graduation. Though the set was scheduled a week after rival 50 Cent’s Curtis album was due, Kanye later moved it up to the same day, starting a much-hyped sales battle that 50 would raise the stakes of by swearing he’d retire if he lost. Graduation ultimately soared past Curtis, selling 957,000 (still Kanye’s best first-week number) to Curtis’ 691,000, confirming Ye – who by then had also embraced electronic influences (particularly via Daft Punk-sampling lead single “Stronger,” another Hot 100 No. 1) and high fashion – as hip-hop’s present and future. Once again earning rave reviews, Graduation made Kanye 3-for-3, and very arguably the biggest artist in the world. (50 declined to retire as promised, but his career was never the same again.)
While Kanye was on top of the word artistically and commercially, he was about to hit a personal low. In late 2007, his mother Donda passed, and the next year, he broke off his engagement with long-time girlfriend Alexis Phifer – with both events inspiring the decidedly downbeat tone of his next album, 2008’s 808s and Heartbreak. Though Kanye had rarely sung on his records before, 808s mostly featured his Auto-Tuned warbling – with rapping kept to a minimum – of heart-on-sleeve lyrics over icy, synth-driven beats that felt a world away from the chipmunk soul he’d made his name on. The album became his third straight No. 1 and spawned a pair of top five Hot 100 hits in “Love Lockdown” and “Heartless,” but for the first time in his career, critics and fans were mixed on the new set. Time would largely prove Ye simply ahead of the curve, however, as the combination of chilly nu-wave sonics and hip-hop/R&B hybridized vocals (largely inspired by Kid Cudi, a signee to Ye’s GOOD Music imprint) ended up being profoundly influential on leading 2010s hitmakers like Travis Scott, Childish Gambino and Drake.
Though 808s wasn’t the unqualified success of Kanye’s first three albums, he was still one of pop music’s leading artists at the time of the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards. That night would quickly prove infamous for Ye, as the megastar – seen with a bottle of Hennessy on the red carpet – would grab the mic during Taylor Swift’s best female video acceptance speech to claim that the award should have gone to fellow nominee Beyoncé instead. Though Ye’s stage-crashing antics were well-known by that point, none of them had ever occurred on this widely watched an event, or with co-stars as well known as Swift or Beyoncé – or during the social media era, as the then-rising app Twitter gave everyone watching the opportunity to express their disbelief and/or disapproval in unison. Kanye had received blowback for plenty of moments in his career to this point, but never backlash on this level; the public response was so immediate and so loud that he pulled out of his planned Fame Kills tour alongside Lady Gaga and essentially went into hiding in Hawaii for the rest of the year.
The experience ended up leading to Kanye’s next album, 2010’s My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Recorded in a free-flowing Hawaii studio setup with a rotating cast of high-profile collaborators, Fantasy featured Ye really leaning into playing the anti-hero (if not the outright villain) for the first time on cinematic hits like “Power,” “Monster” and “All of the Lights,” with newly growling, grimy, ‘70s rock-influenced production. He did still make room for contrition, however, particularly on the spellbinding album centerpiece “Runaway,” which he unveiled with an instantly iconic performance at – where else? – the 2010 VMAs. The album debuted at No. 1 with nearly 500,000 in first-week sales, and drew Ye’s most ecstatic reviews yet: Leading critical voice Pitchfork, which a decade earlier had been an indie rock-rooted publication that might not have even reviewed a rap blockbuster like Fantasy, gave the set its first 10.0 score for a new album since 2002 – a sign not only of Ye’s now-unanimous acclaim, but of how he’d helped shift the entire critical discourse over the course of his career.
For the next couple years, Ye was unquestionably back, and as entrenched in the mainstream as ever. In 2011, he teamed up with longtime collaborator, label head and big brother Jay-Z for the gaudy Watch the Throne, a purposeful exercise in hip-hop opulence and excess that nonetheless contained several classic moments: “N—as in Paris,” in particular, with its imminently quotable lyrics and earthquaking dubstep drop, proved a culture-moving moment, particularly when the duo started playing it double-digit times in a row on tour. The next year, his Cruel Summer quasi-compilation collected songs from then-rising GOOD Music artists like Big Sean, Teyana Taylor and newly solo Clipse rapper Pusha T – but the best and biggest songs were all headlined by Kanye, including the hit singles “Mercy” and “Clique.” Meanwhile, Ye had started to date reality TV superstar and budding entrepreneur Kim Kardashian, increasing his Q rating and pushing him to new corners of pop culture, as he also began premiering his “DW by Kanye West” lines of women’s clothing during Paris Fashion Week.
By summer 2013, it had been nearly three years since the last new Kanye solo album – the longest layover of his career to that point – and rumors of a dark and difficult set had long buzzed around hip-hop blogs and fan communities, many of which by this point (particularly the Kanye to The forum) were tracking Kanye’s happenings with singular diligence and worship. The rumors were true: after a ninth-inning edit job by legendary “reducer” Rick Rubin, Yeezus debuted as Ye’s most-abrasive and least-commercial set, equally influenced by 2010s Chicago drill rap and 1980s Chicago acid house, with largely aggressive, hedonistic lyrics that seemed to occasionally border on outright nihilism. Yeezus made Fantasy sound like “Through the Wire,” and not all listeners were down with the darkness – but the set generally drew song reviews and fan response, and became his sixth straight album to debut at No. 1.
Beginning with Yeezus, though, West’s output generally trended away from playing the pop crossover game. Just a couple years earlier, he had picked up his fourth Hot 100 No. 1 by appearing on the single version of top 40 megastar Katy Perry’s “E.T.”; such pop appearances would quickly be unthinkable for the post-Yeezus Kanye, who began reserving his guest appearances almost exclusively for fellow rappers and occasional R&B stars. Music videos also became rarer, as did award show performances and media interviews – and Yeezus notably contained no pre-release singles, though “Bound 2” eventually became a No. 12 hit following the release of its Kim Kardashian-co-starring, easily parodied music video.
In fact, West’s primary engagement with pop music and pop culture in the mid-’10s came through his continued back-and-forth with Swift – who, a half-decade after their initial VMAs conflict, was still linked to West in ways neither of them could really shake, with the latter apologizing for the incident but then later seemingly retracting his apology. At the 2015 VMAs, the two appeared to bury the hatchet, as Swift introduced West as the recipient of the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award, with her speech even making joking reference to the ‘09 incident. But in early 2016, Kanye released “Famous,” which included the lyric “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex/ Why?/ I made that b–ch famous,” seemingly resetting the dormant beef in an instant. Swift appeared to respond to the song when accepting the album of the year Grammy just days later, warning the young women watching of “the people along the way who try to… take credit for your accomplishments and your fame.” (A video for the song, released months later, would further the acrimony by picturing a nude wax sculpture of Swift, along with similar sculptures of Ye and many other celebrities, sleeping together in a giant bed.)
“Famous” appeared on The Life of Pablo, Kanye’s first album since Yeezus, released in Feb. 2016 after several false starts and renamings. The album was less difficult than its predecessor, but far messier – particularly because West was still tinkering with the album by the time it was released as an exclusive on the new streaming service Tidal, of which he was a co-owner. Months into the album’s release, he was still reworking songs and fiddling with the tracklist – which, depending on who you asked, either made a profound statement on the permanent malleability of the album format in the streaming era or simply displayed Kanye’s increasing lack of artistic self-assuredness. Regardless, the set was mostly received well, giving Ye yet another No. 1 and spawning fan favorites like the two-part “Father Stretch My Hands,” the Kendrick Lamar teamup “No More Parties in LA” and the gospel-influenced, Chance the Rapper-spotlighting opener “Ultralight Beam.”
More notable than the actual music on Pablo might have been the event that premiered it: a live listening party at New York’s Madison Square Garden, the largest scale such an event had been conceived on to that point. In truth it was far larger than even a simple arena gig, because thanks to livestreaming, it also became a communal event on social media, with secondhand excitement over the quasi-live show extended to the album itself. The Pablo era was further helped by the successful and acclaimed Saint Pablo Tour that followed, and the soon-omnipresent merch from it that – along with his increasingly successful Adidas partnership – officially turned Kanye into a lifestyle brand. Perhaps best of all for Ye, Snapchat video released online by Kim Kardashian – then his wife, as the couple were married in 2014 – seemed to show Swift giving him her pre-release approval for the controversial “Famous” lyric, which flipped public sentiment back against the pop megastar and towards Kanye. He was just a couple months away from ending 2016 on a high note to rival any in his career to that point.
It was not to be that simple. West’s year was shaken first by wife Kardashian’s robbery at gunpoint in Paris that October, forcing him to cancel multiple Pablo dates. Then, after Donald Trump was elected president in November, Kanye expressed onstage that he didn’t vote in the election, but would have supported Trump if he had – kicking off a run of erratic on-stage behavior that also included his ranting about Beyoncé’s alleged politicking at the 2016 VMAs and how Jay-Z never called him after Kardashian’s robbery. He eventually pulled the plug on the rest of the tour, and was hospitalized that Thanksgiving for temporary psychosis – after which he had a controversial summit at Trump Tower with the then-president to discuss “multicultural issues,” much to the horror of many of his peers, including longtime collaborator John Legend. It was a brutal end to a once-triumphant year.
The rest of the decade was a rocky period for Kanye. He released two more albums, 2018’s introspective, seven-track Ye – part of a five-album “Wymoning Sessions” series all produced by Kanye, which also included his Kids See Ghosts teamup with longtime collaborator Kid Cudi – and 2019’s gospel-themed Jesus Is King, and again topped the Billboard 200 with both. But both sets drew mixed reviews, and as became increasingly the case with Kanye post-Pablo, got more attention for their bumpy releases and listening party premiere events than for most of the music actually contained therein. Meanwhile, he made further public appearances in support of then-President Trump, began to speak out against abortion and the Black Lives Matter movement, and most infamously, said to TMZ about Black slavery that “when you hear about slavery for 400 years … for 400 years? That sounds like a choice” – comments that earned swift, massive backlash from both fans and the media. (Later that year, he apologized for “how that slave comment made people feel.”) Even the Taylor Swift feud flipped back on Kanye, as 2020 saw the leak of a longer version of the infamous “Famous” approval conversation between the two stars, seemingly adding more context and validity to Swift’s claims that she never gave full approval to the “b–ch” lyric.
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Still, no matter how severe the fallout from any of his controversies, at the turn of the 2020s Kanye still clearly held the public’s interest whenever he released an album, or debuted a new shoe line, or held a high-profile concert – or engaged in a high-profile beef, as he did with 2010s rap kingpin Drake in the lead-up to his 2021 album Donda. After Ye held what was essentially a promotional residency at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium, literally living in the stadium between promotional events as he attempted to finalize the set, the 27-track collection was belatedly released in June, and again entered at No. 1, with 309,000 units moved, the highest mark of the year to that point. The occasionally inspired but wildly overstuffed album had its supporters, and earned an album of the year Grammy nomination – but as Drake’s Certified Lover Boy album was released the next week to an even bigger first-week bow, and then the two rappers made up months later for the Free Larry Hoover concert, it was hard not to feel like the entire era was more sound than fury.
The next year would bring about new lows for Kanye, as Oct. 22 kicked off with him wearing an inflammatory “WHITE LIVES MATTER” t-shirt at a Yeezy SZN Paris fashion show, then making a post to Instagram calling Black Lives Matter “a scam.” Later in the month, West had his accounts locked on both Instagram and Twitter for comments perceived as anti-semitic, particularly a tweet that threatened to go “death con 3 on JEWISH PEOPLE.” The rapper’s rhetoric continued, and eventually his business partners began to sever ties with him – including his CAA agency, his UMG parent label, and even his Adidas shoe partners, about whom Kanye had recently boasted, “I can say anti-semitic things and Adidas can’t drop me.” (In Dec. 2023, Kanye would apologize for his comments in an Instagram statement: “I sincerely apologize to the Jewish community for any unintended outburst caused by my words or actions.”)
And yet, even with seemingly all of his industry backing lost, Kanye remains majorly impactful in present day. His Instagram apology was followed in early 2024 with the independent release of his Ty Dolla $ign teamup Vultures 1 – again, after plenty of false starts, delays and listening-event hype, and again, with a No. 1 debut on the Billboard 200. This time, the set was also able to do something no Kanye album had done since before Yeezus: spawn a major, long-lasting Hot 100 hit, with the soccer-chanting, No. 1-peaking “Carnival,” also featuring Playboi Carti and Rich the Kid. The song carried some of the red-eyed, goblin-mode spark of Ye’s best early-2010s work – though in calling back to some of those songs rather explicitly (including a mid-song sample of Fantasy’s “Hell of a Life”), it missed both the ingenuity and the shock of the new that made them so special.
When you tell the story of Kanye West’s career, you realize how few of the larger narratives about 21st century popular music could be related without him. The mixtape hip-hop era of the early 2000s, rap’s mainstream takeover in the mid-’00s and the blog era in the late deacde, the EDM breakthrough and pop star megaboom of the turn of the 2010s, the complete reinvention of music consumption throughout the social media and streaming ages of the ‘10s, the event-ification of pop music in the late ‘10s, and the outsized role of identity politics and post-#MeToo questions of cancelation (or at least accountability) within the industry that have hung over all of entertainment for the past eight years… Nearly every important sonic, cultural or technological trend in the last 25 years of popular music has been touched by Kanye, and none of these chapters of pop history could be written without extensive mention of him. Sometimes on the first page. Sometimes in the first sentence.
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It’s impossible to deny Kanye’s impact, or his greatness. But it’s equally impossible to deny the impact that his hurtful comments and bad behavior (allegations of which have continued in 2024) have had on his overall legacy. He’s hardly the only one: Rock, rap and even pop history are all full of critical figures whose problematic conduct threatens to overshadow or at least taint their seismic contributions to the genre. How much it impacts our own personal enjoyment or listening habits when it comes to their music – either going forward or looking back – is something every fan must figure out for themselves. But clearly, even with Kanye’s recent chart comeback, he’s been ostracized from too many corners of pop music and pop culture to ever be as central to either as he was at his near-decade-and-a-half peak – and now, for many, even memories from that peak have been regrettably shaded to the point where they will never quite feel the same again.
Still, it’s a testament to just how singular that peak run was, and how impactful it was on popular music and culture – in countless ways we can still feel the reverberations of today, and others we might not properly understand for decades yet to come – that so many still bother with Kanye at all. Perhaps no other artist since Prince has better matched the Purple One’s combination of mold-breaking creativity with record-breaking commercial success, of studio perfectionism and prolificity with spellbinding performance abilities and iconic visuals, of cultural innovation and technological wizardry with personal artistry and deep soulfulness. And like Prince, he can change his name to whatever he wants, but the world will still never, ever forget the name Kanye.
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Honorable Mentions
25. Katy Perry24. Ed Sheeran23. Bad Bunny22. One Direction21. Lil Wayne20. Bruno Mars19. BTS18. The Weeknd17. Shakira16. Jay-Z15. Miley Cyrus14. Justin Timberlake13. Nicki Minaj12. Eminem11. Usher10. Adele9. Ariana Grande8. Justin Bieber