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Billie Eilish Says She Goes ‘Absolutely Insane’ When She Has a Crush on Someone

It’s a craving, not a crush — but either way, Billie Eilish tends to spiral whenever she develops feelings for someone.

On the latest episode of Chicken Shop Date posted Friday (July 12), the 22-year-old pop star opened up to host Amelia Dimoldenberg about her tendency to fly a little off the handle when a new love interest enters her life. “I become insane when I have a crush,” Eilish said. “I get absolutely insane. When I was growing up, no one I had a crush on ever had a crush on me back — that I know of. It’s very demoralizing. It’s sad.”

For the record, it doesn’t seem like the “Bad Guy” singer — who’s been linked to Jesse Rutherford and Matthew Vorce in the past — has any trouble finding requited love now. When Dimoldenberg asked whether Eilish still has the same problem today, the latter merely gave a suggestive smirk.

“All I do is crush on people,” she shared. “It’s all I do. When I don’t have a crush, life feels so empty.”

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The interview comes about two months after the nine-time Grammy winner dropped her third studio album, Hit Me Hard and Soft, which debuted at No. 2 on the Billboard 200. All 10 of its tracks charted on the Billboard Hot 100 upon its release, including flagship single “Lunch,” which reached No. 5.

On one of the album’s fan-favorites, “The Greatest,” Eilish laments how she “just wanted passion” from her ex, a topic that also came up in her Chicken Shop Date interview. “What turns me on? I don’t know, passion, dude,” she told Dimoldenberg. “It’s all about passion.”

Eilish, who has her own fragrance line, also said that a person’s scent is important to her. “[It’s] kinda No. 1,” she said. “I can get around it, but I’m definitely, like, that’s the first thing I notice. I have a very strong nose, so if somebody smells good, I like them more.”

Watch Eilish’s full Chicken Shop Date interview above.

J Balvin & SAIKO Release ‘Gaga’ & More Best New Music Latin

New Music Latin is a compilation of the best new Latin songs and albums recommended by Billboard’s Latin and Billboard Español editors. Check out this week’s picks below.

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J Balvin & SAIKO, “Gaga” (Sueños Globales/UMG Recordings)



J Balvin’s second single from his upcoming album is a total departure from the first single “Polvo de Tu Vida,” with Chencho Corleone, which was powered by a hypnotizing reggaetón drum. The Colombian hitmaker’s new offering, titled “Gaga,” is a club-ready track that thrives on electronic head-bobbing beats. For this new single, Balvin recruits Spanish reggaetón and trap singer SAIKO. The song encapsulates the vibe that Balvin is going for in his new album, Rayo — set to drop Aug. 9, as announced by Billboard. The set, he teased, will sound more like a house party than a collection of songs, and “Gaga” is definitely a party-starter. — GRISELDA FLORES

Omar Montes & Rels B, “YOTULOKO” (Sony Music Latin)

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Omar Montes and Rels B — two of Spain’s breakthrough stars — have joined forces on “YOTULOKO” (which means “yo tu loco,” “I’m your crazy” in English). Produced by Tunvao and co-penned by Montes, Rels, and Estefano Berciano Garduño, “YOTULOKO” is a conceptual tune that takes listeners to an imaginary island. The sensual reggaetón track fuses captivating flutes and the melodic voices of both Spanish acts. “Yo tu loco, mami yo tu loco” (“I’m your crazy, baby, I’m your crazy”), they chant in a repetitive chorus that could potentially go viral on social media. An accompanying music video directed by David Fernández, a.k.a. “Mowlihawk” in Marbella, Spain, features the two stars’ bromance, as well as the captivating sceneries of their native country. — JESSICA ROIZ

TIMØ, “Superpoder” (Universal Music Latino)



Colombian band TIMØ releases “Superpoder,” its new pop-rock single that invites us to believe again with the purity and naivety of when we were children. The melody begins as an acoustic ballad with soft guitar chords, and gradually transforms into a vibrant Latin pop. The lyrics, nostalgically recall the time of childhood when life was simpler, and easier to believe that many things are possible. “I want to believe again in fairies, in heroes and in giant dreams / that there will never be anything more important/ than being with family on a Sunday afternoon.” TIMØ shares an emotive video of the song accompanied by images of the Colombian soccer team on their social media. — LUISA CALLE

Jasiel Nuñez, “Made in Paris” (Double P Records)



Following his successful collaborations with Peso Pluma (“Me Activo,” “Rosa Pastel”), Jasiel Nuñez returns with “Made in Paris,” where he showcases his meteoric rise and penchant for Parisian fashion. Co-produced with Ernesto Fernández, the track infuses traditional corrido elements with an urbano flair, reflecting  the Guadalajara newcomer’s lifestyle transformation to the top. Marking a significant shift from the stark visuals of “0 Sentimientos,” which featured the singer atop a desolate snowy mountain, the music video for “Made In Paris,” in contrast, captures his luxurious life — complete with high-stakes poker and rides in private helicopters, underscoring his high-flying status. — ISABELA RAYGOZA

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Billy Joel Talks Wrapping Up Decade-Long MSG Residency: ‘I Didn’t Want to Outstay My Welcome’

Two weeks from now Billy Joel will wrap up one of the most legendary residencies in music history. The Long Island native will play his 150th and final show at Madison Square Garden on July 25 when he plays the last note of a run that officially kicked off in January 2014 and has had the “Piano Man” playing the historic venue once a month on his way to setting the record for the most lifetime MSG performances by any artist.

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Joel, 75, sat down with Willie Giest for an interview slated to air on Sunday TODAY (July 14) in which the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer opens up about his feelings on the eve of the anticipated finale. “Well, I’m kind of sad that it’s ending,” Joel says of the series that has sold more than 1.6 million tickets to date. “You know, 10 years in Madison Square Garden is beyond my dreams as a musician. We were the house band for 10 years at the Garden, which I think is the best performance venue in the world.”

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And Joel would know, since he’s been pounding the white and blacks on his baby grand all around the world for more than five decades. “I’ve played all kinds of stadiums, arenas, coliseums, theaters, the Garden is the best sound,” he says of the 19,500-capacity arena. “And it’s in New York, which is usually a crazy audience and they make a lot of noise and we have fun.”

Now, to be clear, Joel says that the end of the run doesn’t mean he’ll never play MSG again, just that this seemingly unbeatable record string of shows is reaching its natural end. Plus, Joel says, 150 feels like a “good round number” to bow out on. When he kicked the residency off more than a decade ago, Joel tells Geist he never imagined it would last this long, assuming there would be a peak and then a slow eventual decline.

“But that hasn’t happened, they’re buying more tickets recently than they were at the beginning,” he says of the sold-out shows, noting that he could have easily kept going, but that after a decade he felt like it was “all right already.”

With Geist noting that Stub Hub says the final show is one of the hottest tickets in town this summer, he wondered if Joel is having second thoughts about hanging it up. “Yeah, a lot of second thoughts,” Joel says. “It’s kind of sad because we could have kept going but I didn’t want to outstay my welcome.”

Joel — who released his first new pop song in 17 years, “Turn the Lights Back On” in February — has a stadium gig in Denver on Friday night (July 12) before his final MSG curtain call, followed by stadium shows in the UK, Cleveland, St. Louis, Los Angeles, San Antonio and Las Vegas that will keep him busy through November.

Check out a preview of the interview here and watch the full chat on Sunday Today on Sunday.

Valentino Merlo & The La Planta’s ‘Hoy’ Adds Second Week at No. 1 on Billboard Argentina Hot 100

Valentino Merlo and The La Planta hold steady atop the Billboard Argentina Hot 100 chart as “Hoy,” their first partnership, rules the July 13-dated ranking for a second week. As the song rose 2-1 the week prior (list dated July 6), Argentinian Merlo became the youngest act to score a No. 1 since the chart launched in 2018.

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Trueno claims his highest debut among 22 career entries thanks to “Cuando Te Vi (Big One Crossover #5),” with Maria Becerra and Big One, as the tripartite debuts at No. 3 with the Highest Debut of The Week honors.

The new debut places Big One back on the chart and in the top 10, after “Lágrimas (Big One Crossover #4),” with BM and Tini, reached No. 6 on the Nov. 4, 2023-dated list. The Argentinian record producer also takes home the Greatest Gainer trophy as “Un Finde | Crossover #2,” with Ke Personajes and FMK, climbs from 21 spots from No. 66 to No.45.

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Further, as “Cuando Te Vi (Big One Crossover #5)” launches at No. 3, Maria Becerra extends her top 10 record, with 28 total career top 10s.



Classic Argentinian rock band Los Abuelos de La Nada celebrates its first chart entry with the 1983’s hit “Mil Horas” at No. 75. The song ejects Cachorro Lopez and Lali’s new version of the song, which debuted at No. 70 in June.

While it was a slow week in terms of new debuts on the chart, two other songs make their first appearances: “feelslikeimfallinginlove” at No. 94, for Coldplay’s 11th entry, and Plan B’s “Es Un Secreto” at No. 98.



Anna Is Italy’s ‘Real Baddie’ of Hip-Hop

A few nights ago, while I was driving home, the shuffle chose “BBE” by Anna and Lazza. The chorus is one of those that immediately get stuck in your mind, the lyrics are a statement of empowerment, a sort of manifesto of a strong and determined girl who never has to ask.

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In the time I spend with her for the interview I discover two things in particular. The first is that behind that tough image there is a very sweet girl in her early twenties who, overwhelmed by a success that has taken away a piece of her adolescence, sometimes dreams of exchanging her famous life for a normal one for one day, like any of her peers. The second is that also “real bad bitches cry,” as she raps in “Una Tipa Come Me,” undoubtedly the best of the 18 tracks on Vera Baddie, her debut album, released on June 28.

It’s strange to think that it is only her first album, given that from 2020 to today – between singles with tens of millions of streams and collaborations with the heavyweights of the Italian rap scene – the rapper has constantly dominated the Italian charts and in 2023 was the most listened to female artist in Italy. But she wanted to do things well and in her own way, taking the time necessary to mature and make a project that wasn’t something ephemeral but that will make her proud when she listens to it again in ten years.

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After having met the “Real Baddie,” in this interview we discover the real Anna: from the fragility of her twenties to the desire for sincere human relationships, from the most important goal she has achieved to music as therapy to exorcise anxiety, from the little girl she was to the woman she is now.

Anyone who listens to this album will be amazed at how you opened up about your fragilities, something you hadn’t done yet.

I think so, too. I hadn’t dug into myself yet. It took me time to do it. For me it’s much easier to make a song to entertain and have fun rather than delve into the things that hurt me, into my relationships with people. This album unlocked me from this point of view.

Was there something that made you realize that you were ready to show a different side of yourself?

Certainly the fact that many girls told me that they see themselves in me made me feel the need to explore other sides of being a girl today. I wanted to address more facets of this thing, even the negative ones. I’m proud to have brought out another part of me and I’ve matured a lot as a person to be able to do this, to unite my feelings with music.

The album arrives four years after your first singles. In an interview you said that you didn’t want to become famous as it happened but to work your way up. Did taking time also help you sort out what was happening in your life?

Yes, it took me a few years to stabilize my life, also because success came when I was still very young, in a particular moment like quarantine. These four years also helped me grow as an artist. I feel like I’ve really raised the bar in my songs. I want my name to have a certain value and depth, and that it be understood that I take music seriously, because it is what I live for.



Can we say that this has nothing to do with being a woman in a male-dominated world?

Absolutely yes! I’m here because I’ve never felt a difference between me and my male colleagues. The more this is emphasized, the more girls feel discouraged from being rappers. When they say that I’m the best in Italy I would respond: “I’m not the best, I’m simply the only one who let herself go and who never gave a damn about being a woman among only men. Even at the cost of receiving insults.” I didn’t bring “female rap,” I brought my music, period.

If female rap existed, male rap should also exist…

Right! Do you know how many times I get told that I am proof that women can rap too? Rap is rap, period. There is no gender, the important thing is to do it well. Many times, girls feel disadvantaged because they don’t feel supported, but when I started, who supported me? Nobody. It was me, alone. Little by little I built my own path and asserted myself.

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The concept of “baddie” means more than it seems, right?

Being a baddie doesn’t just mean being a girl who has fun: the baddie is the one who transmits determination to other girls, who helps them in times of need. Girls understood this, and that’s enough for me.

You said you suffered a lot from criticism in the past. Now that you’ve grown up, how do you deal with this?

I have a lot less hating than before because people have gotten to know me. They see me in concert and appreciate the person I am. Over time I learned not to care. Bad things no longer affect me as they used to because I take them as something negative towards those who say them, not towards me who receive them.

You also said that the criticism had tripled the moment you exploded, so much so that the internet had given an image of you that didn’t correspond to the real one. Were you ever afraid that after your debut single “Bando” everything could end?

More than anything, people put the fear in me. I knew very well what I wanted to do in life, but many people can’t wait to destroy you. I remember when they told me: “In a month she will already be gone.” But damn it, I’m still here, and I’m here because I have a lot to give, because I’ve always been convinced about this, because I felt that this was my path.

I often see videos of you with your fans and you still seem like a very humble girl.

I think this has a lot to do with the fact that I haven’t enjoyed a normal life. From the age of 16 onwards, all the things I did were inherent to my job. So outside of that I want to be as normal as possible and enjoy life. My simplicity is not to do others a favor or to make me say, “Oh, look how humble Anna is.” I love being like this, I love having a normal chat with someone, why should I be a snob?

Is the fact of including so many references to your adolescence in the album also a way to recover a moment of your life that you didn’t experience as you wanted?

Maybe. Often at night I dream of my old school, my old classmates, the environment I frequented before. I miss those things because I haven’t enjoyed them at all. I’m not even someone who has made many friends in an organic way in life because I haven’t had the time or the way to do it. I suffered a lot for this. Young girls often tell me that they envy my life, but I envy theirs and they don’t even imagine it.

For this album you also worked in the U.S. and one could tell it. It’s a very international sound.

Yes, for example I wrote “Una Tipa Come Me” there, but most of the songs were born in my bedroom at home. In my head there is no such thing as having someone write something to me. If I make songs, it is to say something, and that must come from me. I could never get other people to put their words in my mouth. Music for me is such an intimate and personal thing that I couldn’t let someone change it. It bothers me when they say: “Oh, Anna has improved, I wonder who writes her lyrics.” Well, nobody!

In your producers, however, you have complete trust.

Absolutely. They are fundamental, without them this album wouldn’t be what it is. I do my thing, I write the lyrics, but if there isn’t a good backing track none of this is possible. I’m happy that such fresh and cool young people are finally making their way in Italy.



Earlier you mentioned “Una Tipa Come Me,” which for me is one of the songs that will most surprise those who listen to the album.

Yes, it’s definitely the most introspective song on the entire album. I had started working on it in the studio with an American producer while I was in the USA, but I was too tense and couldn’t finish it, so I picked it up again while I was alone in my room. Last summer was a bit of a tough time for me. I lost a lot of kilos due to stress. I had a very fluctuating mood and therefore I needed to throw these feelings out and talk even more about myself, about my character. It freed me a lot.

In the intro you say: “Doing this stuff helps more than a psychologist.”

For me music has always been a cure. I suffer a lot from anxiety which also manifests itself in a psychosomatic way, and when I feel like I’m starting to feel bad I put on my headphones, listen to music and I swear I feel better. It’s really my therapy, my life revolves around music.

We talked about criticism. Can you tell me what is the nicest thing a fan has said to you?

It makes me proud that many girls tell me that I give them the determination to face everyday life and the dark times. Once a girl wrote to me that her dad had had a heart attack, and listening to my music relieved her. For me it was a wonderful thing to know that I was making life a little less burdensome for a person who was going through a difficult time.

What is the most important milestone you have achieved so far?

From a personal point of view, it would be being able to help my mother have financial stability. I have always seen her work hard, so allowing her to no longer work and giving her a serenity that she never had is the greatest joy. For me, the relationship with my parents is everything: when they are well and have no worries, life changes you completely. In terms of career, however, I would say working with Sfera Ebbasta. When I was a young girl it would have seemed impossible, but in a few days I will be singing at the San Siro stadium in Milan with him. If I had told this to my past self, she would probably never have believed it!

And what would younger Anna say to Anna today?

She would say that she’s proud of who she has become because that is exactly who she always wanted to be. If Anna as a child could travel in time and see me now, she would get excited, she would say that I’m really cool, that she got to where she is on her own and because she believed in it so much. Well, perhaps the greatest achievement is simply being me.

Post Malone & Morgan Wallen Need No ‘Help’ Ruling Country Airplay for Fourth Week

Post Malone’s “I Had Some Help,” featuring Morgan Wallen, commands Billboard’s Country Airplay chart (dated July 20) for a fourth week, becoming the first song to lead that long among the 15 singles that have scored their initial weeks atop the tally in 2024.

The collaboration increased by 1% to 33 million audience impressions July 5-11, according to Luminate.

The song became Post Malone’s first Country Airplay No. 1 (and Wallen’s 13th), after he notched 10 leaders on Rhythmic Airplay and five on Pop Airplay beginning in 2016. His new album, F-1 Trillion, is due Aug. 16; second single “Pour Me a Drink,” featuring Blake Shelton, ranks at No. 34 on Country Airplay (3 million, up 37%).



Post Malone “deserves to be a superstar in country music, primarily because he is being real,” WJVC Nassau-Suffolk, N.Y., program director Phathead tells Billboard. “He’s put together a team that created one of the best songs we’ve heard, while singing it with the biggest act in the format. And he has a monster to follow with Shelton. A good boss in any business is only as good as the people around them. Great to see Post put his ego aside.”

Wallen 1, 2 for 3rd Week

For the first time in Country Airplay’s 34-year history, an act has ranked at Nos. 1 and 2 simultaneously for three weeks, as Wallen’s “Cowgirls,” featuring Ernest, holds at its No. 2 high (31.6 million, up 4%). Luke Bryan locked up the top two spots for two weeks in May-June 2014, while Luke Combs landed such a double-up for a week in September 2023.

Speaking of Combs, he earns his 21st consecutive career-opening top 10 single on Country Airplay as “Ain’t No Love in Oklahoma” pushes 11-10 (17.5 million, up 8%). The song introduces the soundtrack to the film Twisters, with both due July 19.

Baldridge Makes History

Drew Baldridge’s “She’s Somebody’s Daughter (Reimagined)” rises 10-8 on Country Airplay (19.3 million, up 5%). After becoming only the second self-released single ever to reach the top 10, it’s now the sole highest-charting, passing Aaron Watson’s “Outta Style,” which peaked at No. 10 in 2017.

Nelly Furtado Has a Song Ready for Taylor Swift to Collaborate On: ‘Let’s Get It Popping’

Nelly Furtado just teased that she has an idea for a Taylor Swift collaboration that’ll undoubtedly have a lot of fans begging “Give It to Me.”

But before anyone gets too excited, the 45-year-old singer-songwriter did clarify that the “Anti-Hero” musician hasn’t even heard the pitch yet, although she has an idea on how she can make it happen. “I have a song for Taylor,” Furtado said in an interview with Extra Thursday (July 11) before noting her connection to Swift’s boyfriend. “Dom Dolla produced it … I think Dom’s friends with Travis [Kelce], so let’s get it popping. We want Taylor on it!”

The topic of Swift first came up when Furtado was asked about a viral moment from the VMAs last year. In a clip from the awards show posted on the latter’s TikTok, the former raves that she had just been “screaming” Furtado’s 2001 hit “I’m Like a Bird.”

“Versatility, dude, you can do anything!” the 34-year-old pop star added at the time, to which Furtado replied, “Every time you write another amazing song, I’m like, ‘She did it again!’”

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Reflecting on the moment, the “Promiscuous Girl” musician told the outlet, “It’s kind of surreal for me.”

“I take these long breaks away from music, and sometimes I feel like a music librarian trapped in a pop star body,” she added. “And I meet other artists and they like my music, like Taylor Swift. It’s kind of like, ‘Oh, f–k, that’s cool. Oh really? You were singing my song at a party? That’s amazing.’”

The interview arrived one day ahead of Furtado’s new single “Corazón,” which features Bomba Estéreo. The track followed March’s “Gala y Dalí” with Juanes and May’s “Love Bites” with Tove Lo and SG Lewis.

Meanwhile, Swift has been sitting at the top of the Billboard 200 for nearly three months since dropping The Tortured Poets Department in April.

Watch Furtado open up about her desire to collaborate with Swift below.

Fonseca Reveals Terrifying Moment on Latest Tour: ‘Air Would Come Out & Not Voice’

Fonseca‘s 2023 Viajante Tour was an “ambitious” and “incredible” celebration of his 20-year career, spanning across Latin America, the United States and Europe. But the intensity of the trek also led to one of the most distressing moments he has ever experienced.

The Latin Grammy-winning Colombian singer-songwriter, whose vocal quality has been described by maestro Juan Luis Guerra as that of a “nightingale,” faced a terrifying moment when he began having problems with his voice.

“It was very crazy because I would start to sing and when I went high, I would hit a certain note where air would come out and not voice,” Fonseca shared publicly for the first time during a Q&A with Billboard‘s Leila Cobo at the Latin Alternative Music Conference (LAMC) on Thursday (July 11) in New York City. “And what’s worse is that I realized this in the middle of the tour — we still had about 18 shows to go in the U.S. and then 10 more in Europe.”

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During a visit to a laryngologist in Miami, he said, a polyp was found on his vocal cords. With insufficient time to treat it due to the imminent continuation of the tour, he had to make changes to the arrangements of his songs and take as much care of himself as possible.

“I did the tour. It was tough. I did exercises. I lowered the key of the higher songs, but the feeling of knowing that you have that, feeling it when you are singing, and also thinking, ‘Is this something that will affect me? Will this not go away?’ Oh, that was crazy!” he continued. “When I finished the tour, I went for another check-up in Bogotá, and the polyp had grown.”

With rest and with therapy, Fonseca and his doctors finally managed to make the polyp disappear. Now, he takes more care of his voice, among other things by using a nebulizer and doing warm-up and cool-down exercises before and after each performance.

“[The Viajante Tour] was very ambitious, it was incredible, but it also left me with the lesson that, at the end of the day, it’s about going to sing. So when you put so much intensity into the voice, there is wear,” the artist said.

On the eve of the Q&A, Fonseca had given a concert at SummerStage in Central Park, where he showed total control of his voice. He also celebrated Colombia’s goal against Uruguay in the Copa América semifinal from the stage. (Colombia won and will now face Argentina in the final this Sunday.)

On Thursday, during the conversation with Cobo at the 25th edition of LAMC, the creator of hits such as “Te Mando Flores,” “Eres Mi Sueño” and “Arroyito” also indulged the audience with a snippet of “Ven,” first a cappella and later accompanied by his guitarist Jairo Barón.

The Latin Alternative Music Conference is taking place this week in Manhattan with panels, interviews, concerts, and more. For a full calendar of events, click here

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How ‘Cats: The Jellicle Ball’ Married the Music of Andrew Lloyd Webber to the Ferocity of Ball Culture

Cats: The Jellicle Ball is a new stage production that reimagines Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Cats within the world of Harlem ballroom. It sounds like a whimsical lark on paper, a novel concept that might wear thin fast – but in practice, it’s actually kind of genius. Think salty ice cream – sounds weird but try it once and you’re an instant convert.

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Cats is a cultural touchstone that could use a win these days. The original Broadway production was a (litter) box office smash; Cats ran 18 years and still reigns as the fifth-longest-running Broadway show ever. The 2019 live-action film, however, did not land on its feet: critics scorned it, audiences avoided it and longtime haters licked their lips.

Which is why Cats: The Jellicle Ball – co-directed by Zhailon Levingston and Bill Rauch; choreographed by Arturo Lyons and Omari Wiles – is nothing short of a small miracle for a musical property that has burned through a few of its nine lives. Not only is it delighting the faithful, but it’s also bringing in new fans as it plays to sold-out crowds at new Manhattan venue PAC NYC.

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Lloyd Webber’s playful, hummable score is mostly unchanged, but the milieu of the musical has become the fertile, fresh and fierce world of ballroom culture (if that means nothing to you, watch the 1990 documentary Paris Is Burning or TV series Pose stat). Ball culture — which has been forged over the decades by queer people of color — gives the often-scattershot narrative of Cats a throughline and (perhaps more importantly) provides each character with that elusive “why.” Why are they performing? Why are they vying for attention? Why are they in friendly competition? Because that’s what ball divas do, darling. And since many of the cast members hail from that world, the runway walks (and death drops) in this staging are the real deal.

Connecting Lloyd Webber’s Cats to ball culture also teases out the beautiful, bittersweet heart of the musical: one generation facing its irrelevance while another begins to experience the joys and jabs of life for the first time. “Everybody wants to leave something behind them, some impression, some mark on the world,” says drag performer Dorian Corey in Paris Is Burning. “[But when you’re older] you think you left a mark on the world if you just get through it and a few people remember your name.” It’s not hard to imagine “Memory” playing in the background of that scene.

That cross-generational connection has played out behind-the-scenes of Cats: The Jellicle Ball, too, thanks in part to two LGBTQ legends – Tony winner André De Shields and ball icon Junior Labeija – being part of the cast. “On a break [during rehearsals], you would see multiple people sometimes sitting around the feet of Junior and listening to him pontificate on stories of what was going on back when,” Levingston tells Billboard of having a “pillar of ballroom” in the theatrical space. “The [performers], especially those who are younger, are eager to hear [that queer history].”

During a recent phone call with Billboard, Levingston tells us about sinking his claws into Cats as a child, working with Andrew Lloyd Webber’s estate on this production and what he hopes is next for Cats: The Jellicle Ball.

Shelby Griswold, Xavier Reyes, Emma Sofia, Baby, Teddy Wilson Jr, and Primo in rehearsal for CATS:

Shelby Griswold, Xavier Reyes, Emma Sofia, Baby, Teddy Wilson Jr, and Primo in rehearsal for CATS: “The Jellicle Ball”.

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What was your first exposure to Cats, the musical?

When I was a kid, like kindergarten or first grade, I would go to this daycare center after school, and they would put on the Barney movie. I was a big Barney kid — love Barney. And one of the trailers in the Barney movie was the 1998 recording of Cats [the stage musical]. At that age, I was not aware of my queerness; I was not aware of any of the reasons why I might be odd or different. And I didn’t have a strong vocabulary for theater, obviously, at all. I just saw this trailer and I didn’t really know the difference between what they were doing and what happens in a regular movie, but I felt things. Some things that were like, “These are exciting feelings that I have felt before” and some things I was like, “Ooh, I don’t even know if I’m supposed to feel this — what is this feeling?” I think that was the queer-coded-ness of the original production. This was around a time when Blockbuster was a thing, and so my single mother [and I] were at Blockbuster. I saw the two cat eyes from the box, and I was like, “I want to watch that! That’s the thing they play on the Barney movie!” And my mom, of course, was like, “You don’t know what that is. You don’t want to watch that.” And this is Blockbuster, so you actually have to watch the thing.

Right. It’s not like streaming, you can watch five minutes and then switch to something else.

Exactly. So I was like, “No, I promise, I’m gonna watch this.” So she got it for me. When she put it in, I sat inches away from the television and watched all two and a half hours of it without moving. Without asking for food, asking for water, using the restroom, I just stayed there. My mom was like, “we may have a situation.” I watched it every day for like two years and knew way too much about it as material. Then as I got older and learned more about theater and chose it as a profession, I think there’s this moment where you kind of diverge away from the things that you were attracted to as a kid. So then when the opportunity came to co-direct this, it was intersecting with a feeling that I was having of [being] a little paranoid to lose the things that activated me as a child. Even before I knew how we could make this work, I knew it spoke to a part of me that I felt like the larger industry wasn’t interested in. So the first big “yes” was about being able to play with that young person.

And what was your first exposure to ball culture?

It wasn’t until I moved to New York that I went to a ball for the first time. I definitely wouldn’t say that I was someone who was in the community — I was not. But in the way that a lot of young queer people, especially of color, intersect with ball culture, there are these points of intersection. Like a lot of people, my first time understanding it from a historical context was watching Paris Is Burning. I probably saw that when I was in college and had the same reaction that a lot of people have nowadays when they watch it — understanding how everything in pop culture that we say and do can be stemmed back to something that a queer person of color created.

It’s unreal how every quote from that movie has become part of culture. How did you approach the challenge of making sure this play felt authentic to ball culture?

The whole team is very much a mix of people who have worked in theater and people who work in ballroom. From the very beginning to me, I was like, “Oh, this is the event, this is what it is, it is about this culture clash specifically.” Both of our choreographers come from ballroom and are icons and legends within that community. We knew very, very early on that the cast had to be made up of people who came from ballroom and musical theater. So casting was really, really difficult. You’ve seen the show, and hopefully, there isn’t this drastic demarcation between people who are in musical theater and people who are in ballroom. Maybe you can tell a little bit, but the hope is that those two worlds are coming together to create this whole other new energy of expression that feels whole and complete. So a big shout out to how relentless our casting directors were to keeping our feet to the fire in terms of when sh-t got hard, never giving upon the thing that was the integrity of the piece: making sure that we’re always centering ballroom and doing it in a way that doesn’t sacrifice the material of Cats.

Zhailon Levingston, Bill Rauch, and the company in rehearsal for CATS:

Zhailon Levingston, Bill Rauch, and the company in rehearsal for CATS: “The Jellicle Ball”.

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When you were giving feedback to the actors, did more of the notes have to do with acting or with ballroom?

It was a pretty fascinating balance of the things. The longer we developed the piece, the more we learned what can never be sacrificed in either one of those worlds and what is up for negotiation. People from the cast had the autonomy and the freedom to raise their hand and be like, “Okay, so connect what you just said back to ballroom. Where’s that in ballroom?” It wasn’t from a place of criticalness, it was a place of “that’s how I enter this space.” So every acting choice, or dramaturgical choice or staging choice had to be both about our interpretation of the poetry of Cats and also about ballroom itself. What’s been exciting is to watch people come multiple times to the show and get something new every time or something deeper every time. I don’t know if it makes more or less sense of Cats — because I think how people define that is different — but what I do think it does is excavates the poetry for today’s audience in a way that has many more entry points to it, other than “I’m watching a literal cat tell me this thought.”

Speaking of literal cats, how early in the process was the decision made that the actors would not be dressed as actual felines?

It was pretty immediate. My co-director, Bill Rauch, he talks about how even before this project, the inspiration for him was this image of an older queer man singing “Memory” at a gay bar. So that was the pop. And then very quickly, what we learned is that it wasn’t in a gay bar, it was in a ball. And it’s not just a runway, that’s a catwalk. They’re not literal cats, but they’re people who walk cat-egories. And there’s something fun about that kind of wordplay, to use “cat” as the kind of slang term in the way that it was used in the 20th century – “look at that cat over there, that’s a cool cat.” That that’s already in the lexicon. So it’s just about bringing all of those things into play. And then also the fact that so much of ballroom vocabulary centers the feline, centers the cat and centers other words that suggest the cat, if you know what I mean.

[laughs] How did you approach the music?

The thing that took us the longest time to negotiate was “how does the music fit into this world?” The music started as our first organizing principle around the adaption — we just assumed that you have to change all of this music. The happy accident that we learned through development is that by doing that, you don’t actually interpret what is really the script in Cats, which is the orchestrations. If we get rid of everything, I don’t actually know what Andrew Lloyd Webber was trying to say in the first place. But that is an idea that I can only articulate in hindsight. What that really looked like in process was having a dance lab, a choreo lab with the choreographers, and the challenge being, “what would happen if we put this vogue and ballroom vocabulary onto this orchestration without touching any of it?” And what happened pretty quickly is that it sparked joy. The choreographers had joy in discovery of this physical language being able to be married to this music in a way that actually didn’t take away from the authenticity of the movement. If anything, it helped us listen to the score better.

I wanted to touch on what you mentioned about queer elders, since the cast includes undeniable legends in both the theater and ballroom communities. Were they helping instill a sense of queer history, queer continuity, during rehearsals?

All the time. We are so lucky to have the legend that is André De Shields, this pillar of theater, and then the legend that is Junior Labeija, this pillar of ballroom, as fountains of resources in the room. The space became a space where at any moment if Junior needed to stop us and give us more nuanced context, or challenge something that was going on, [he would]. [He would] remind us that he has 50 years of ballroom, as he puts it. All of that we used, and I think all of that plays into his connection to Gus. The way his role is played in the show is someone that all the cats, especially those who are younger, are eager to hear from, to learn from, to see, and we didn’t really have to fake a lot of that, because that’s what was happening in the rehearsal all the time. On a break and you would see multiple people sometimes sitting around the feet of Junior and listening to him pontificate on stories of what was going on back when.

There’s really no way of doing ballroom without the audience being an active participant, which isn’t the norm for theater. This certainly wasn’t an issue when I saw it, but have you had any audiences who were a little more reticent to get involved?

From the first dress rehearsal it was a rowdy, enthusiastic audience. We don’t really have quiet audiences. What I’ve started to tell people is it feels much more like you’re going to a sporting event than you’re going to their typical piece of theatre. And that’s cool. I think that theater should be an event. We had no clue how audiences would respond even up until first dress rehearsal. And for about five or six performances, almost our entire preview process, I didn’t trust them. I just didn’t know that would sustain, so it’s been fascinating to see now, after weeks of being open, that that is just what happens in this room for this show. And I think it’s because there are so many different types of people it’s calling together and it’s touching them and gagging them in different ways. The ballroom community feels so seen because of how many ballroom folks we have in the show and their status within the community. It is multigenerational. We have people who’ve just started their own house. [Robert “Silk” Mason], the actor who plays Mr. Mistoffelees, is now the founding mother of the House of Silk, [so they’re] at the beginning of that journey, and you have someone like Junior and everyone in between. Obviously, we will always wish to have more representation than not, but I think that what we have heard from folks within ballroom is that it’s so rare that there’s any level of real authenticity with ballroom in popular culture. [Pop culture] takes from the community and wears it as opposed to making something new with the community. And I have been really pleasantly surprised by the fact that it’s not just the ballroom elements that they’re pleased with. It’s the power of the singing voices, it’s the music. We had a guest judge who was a ballroom legend and mother who was sitting at the judge’s table mouthing words to “The Rum Tum Tugger.” And I was like, “oh, yeah, this musical was once the longest running musical in history, parts of it have found their way into everyone probably in some way.” I think people from ballroom are really shocked about watching ballroom elements but with the rigor of people actually singing at the same time. That’s like, “What? What is going on?” And then I think people who are used to musicals are watching this material that they learned get completely reimagined. And they’re like, “What? How are they doing a drop and singing at the same time?” Those two general broad constituencies are meeting each other at the intersection of wonder. And then there’s all of these other people in between: there’s old people, young people, Black people, white people, gay people, straight people, people who love Cats, people who abhor Cats and people who have no clue what Cats or ballroom is. And somehow all of those people are finding a way to be together.

I know the run recently got extended into August. Do you have a sense of what might happen with it down the road? Might you film it or even tour it?

What I will say it that we on the creative team want more audiences to be able to have access to material. And you know, personally, I always want actors to have jobs. I feel proud of the work and want to keep sharing it and I want to keep actors employed. But ultimately, it’s up to Andrew Lloyd Webber. And luckily, we worked very closely with his estate on this adaption. And I think that’s important for people to know. Everyone in his estate has seen the show, given us feedback about the show, worked with us on tricky moments that we were trying to figure out musically within the show. His daughter has seen the show twice. Once he comes to see the show, it will be ultimately up to him in terms of where he thinks it should go next. [Ed. note: two days after this interview, Lloyd Webber attended Cats: The Jellicle Ball.]

Andrew Lloyd Weber speaks backstage with the cast of CATS:

Andrew Lloyd Weber speaks backstage with the cast of CATS: “The Jellicle Ball” on July 10, 2024.

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What was the feedback you got from the estate, in terms of things they thought weren’t quite working?

One of the things they gave us really good, detailed touch notes on is even though all of our characters are people and not cats, they validated the kind of fun in the costume design of still seeing elements of the feline. That felt important to them. And I think ultimately, it’s successful in the show. Probably the biggest collaborative effort between the estate and us was once we committed to mostly working with the original score, we then had to figure out what is there to do about the ballroom beats, which are so essential. You can’t come to something called a ball and hear nothing of a ballroom beat. We have a ballroom DJ on the team and the consensus that came together is ultimately the reason why the show is working. When the score is happening, it’s Andrew Lloyd Webber’s score, but there could be beats inserted in between the score in moments of actual competition on the runway. That’s all we needed in order for people to be like, “yeah, I get it, I get the world, I get this authenticity.” And it helped establish the fact that this whole night isn’t exclusively about competition. There are other emotions, other nuances, other feelings. This is ballroom culture, not a documentary about a ball. There are things that are happening off the runway that are supported better with music that isn’t just the ballroom beats that one might be used to. It just creates a richer sonic landscape to put all of these emotions that people are feeling in a place that makes sense.

What was one of the hardest things to hammer out in this production?

If I’m talking about story points, it was probably the reimagining of Macavity. A super iconic role that took a long time to figure out. With Macavity we knew early on, after a while of developing but still towards the beginning of the process, that we wanted to reimagine him. We just knew it didn’t make sense for him to be a villain in the space. So who would Macavity be a villain to? Probably the cops would make him a villain, probably stealing sh-t and that was aligned with history in ballroom. And then how to make that make sense without changing any of the material. That just took a long time to develop and was also very collaborative with the actor [Antwayn Hopper]. A lot of these choices were very collaborative with the actors. The integrity of process is always the hardest thing.

Is there anything else you’d like to add?

I would say a selfish hope is that no matter where the show goes next — if it goes somewhere next — it would be amazing to be able to record a cast album of it. I feel so much [for] those kids that are so far away from Broadway or New York and need something to hold on to that connects them to the thing that is giving them life when they’re at home in Oklahoma or Louisiana or Nebraska or wherever they are. I was that kid. And to hear these Black and brown artists [of the] cis and trans and queer experience being past your expectation of what certain voices should be able to do with a score that is extremely difficult and athletic – while also infused with contemporary touches of ballroom — that would just be an amazing thing to be able to hold on to.

Eminem Features Recordings of Daughter Hailie Jade as a Toddler on Tearjerking New Song ‘Temporary’

If you plan on listening to Eminem‘s new album The Death of Slim Shady, you may want to make sure you have tissues handy before you get to track 15. On “Temporary,” the 51-year-old rapper featured recordings of his daughter Hailie Jade back when she was just a toddler, promising that he’ll always be with her even after he dies. 

The emotional song opens with Em soliloquizing, “A lot of people ask me, am I afraid of death?” 

“The truth is, I think what scares me the most is not being able to say all the things I wanna say to you when I’m no longer here,” he continues in spoken-word form. “So this song is for Hailie, for when that day comes.” 

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The track then cuts to an old audio clip of the 15-time Grammy winner speaking to baby Hailie, who’s now 28. “Where’s Hailie? Where’s she at?” his younger self asks, before his small daughter adorably roars, “This ain’t Hailie, it’s a monster!” 

“Hailie Jade, I wrote you this song/ To help you cope with life now that I’m gone,” current-day Em raps. “How should I start? Just wanna say look after Alaina, Stevie, and Uncle Nate/ And sweetie, be strong.” 

The Detroit artist is also Dad to adopted kids Alaina, 31, and Stevie, 22, whom he mentions in the previous line; Nate is the rapper’s half brother, Nathan Mathers. He continues to urge Hailie to move on after his death — “Don’t you dare shed a tear, what I tell you?/ ‘Straighten up, little soldier’” — in between more throwback recordings of his daughter’s voice and a stirring chorus performed by Skylar Grey.  

Though it might be the most heartbreaking, “Temporary” isn’t the only time Eminem addresses his kids on the 19-track Death of Slim Shady. On “Somebody Save Me,” which features Jelly Roll, the rapper includes a clip of Alaina speaking to him when she was a little girl and apologizes to all three of his children for missing out on their lives due to his struggles with substance abuse. (The rapper celebrated 16 years of sobriety earlier this year.) And on lead single “Houdini,” the Detroit icon raps, “F–k my own kids, they’re brats,” while in the video, he gives Hailie, Alaina and Stevie the finger on FaceTime. 

It’s also far from the first time Hailie – who married Evan McClintock in May with her famous dad at her side — has been on one of Eminem’s songs. The hip-hop star also featured her on 1999’s “97 Bonnie and Clyde” and 2002’s “My Dad’s Gone Crazy,” as well as dedicated “Hailie’s Song” on The Eminem Show to her.  

Listen to “Temporary,” featuring a young Hailie Jade, below.