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Concord Music raised its bid to take over Hipgnosis Songs Fund (HSF) on Wednesday (April 24) to $1.25 per share, one penny higher than the competing offer that Blackstone floated on April 20 — further ratcheting up the fight for control of the music rights company’s assets.
Concord’s new all-cash offer values Hipgnosis’s assets — which include rights to songs by Red Hot Chili Peppers, Christine McVie, Blondie, Shakira and Journey — as worth around $1.51 billion. It includes a plan to sell up to 30% of Hipgnosis’ assets within 18 to 24 months of an acquisition, according to a filing with the London Stock Exchange.

HSF’s board of directors unanimously recommended shareholders approve this new bid from Concord, a reversal from Monday (April 22) when those directors said they would support an offer from Blackstone equivalent to $1.24 per share if the investment giant made it official. Blackstone’s bid remains a “possible offer,” according to the company’s statement on Saturday (April 20).

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“Concord … remains committed to becoming the new owner of Hipgnosis,” the filing reads. “The Hipgnosis Directors believe that the Increased Concord Offer is in the best interests of Hipgnosis Shareholders as a whole, and accordingly unanimously recommend that Hipgnosis Shareholders vote in favour of the resolutions required to implement the Increased Concord Offer to be proposed at the Court Meeting and the General Meeting which are due to be held on or around 10 June 2024.”

The new offer presents a 42.6% premium over HSF’s closing share price on April 17, the day before Concord’s initial offer became public. Any offer will require the support of investors representing at least 75% of the company’s public shares at a court meeting expected to be held on June 10; until that date, additional new offers may still be lodged.

Concord plans to finance the acquisition through a combination of debt and equity, with the majority of the equity financing coming from Concord followed by “minority participation by Apollo Funds.” Apollo will also provide the debt, the amount of which has not been disclosed.

Blackstone floated a “possible offer” of $1.5 billion, or $1.24 per share, to buy Hipgnosis Songs Fund over the weekend. The private equity giant owns two other entities under the Hipgnosis name, including a private music royalty fund with its own catalog holdings worth more than $700 million. Blackstone has yet to file an official bid.

Last year, Concord acquired Hipgnosis rival Round Hill Music Royalty Fund for $468 million in the biggest catalog deal of 2023. Through that acquisition, Concord gained rights to over 150,000 songs, among them works by The Beatles and tunes recorded by Elvis Presley, Meatloaf, James Brown and Billie Holiday.

The cloudy future of Hipgnosis Songs Fund (HSF) became clearer on April 18, when the embattled company’s board of directors publicly supported a $1.4 billion takeover bid by Concord, followed two days later by a $1.5 billion offer by investment giant Blackstone.
Regardless of the buyer, an acquisition would mark an end to the 5-year-old London Stock Exchange-listed company and give shareholders an offramp after HSF faced questions about its operational acuity and, most recently, alleged evidence of accounting missteps that overstated both revenue and its portfolio’s valuation.

Concord’s offer is a 32.2% premium over HSF’s closing price on April 17, but the board said it would support Blackstone’s offer — which represents a 41.8% premium — if the asset manager makes it official.

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Blackstone’s bid for the publicly traded music rights company wasn’t a surprise: It owns two other entities under the Hipgnosis name. Blackstone is the majority owner of the public fund’s investment adviser, Hipgnosis Song Management (HSM), and it funds Hipgnosis Songs Capital (HSC), a private music rights fund operated with HSM that has its own portfolio of music rights from such stars as Justin Bieber and Kenny Chesney. Sources say Blackstone’s private fund, HSC, is worth upwards of $700 million. HSM has the right to buy HSF’s portfolio if its advisory agreement is terminated — and Blackstone and HSM “will vigorously protect its interests should the company purport to terminate the [investment advisory agreement],” according to a statement issued by HSM on April 22. “We will use all means necessary to defend our contractual position and interests.”

Neither HSF nor HSM responded to requests to comment for this story.

When investors vote on a proposed acquisition at HSF’s June 10 board meeting, a majority of stock- holders representing at least 75% of voting rights must approve the deal. Before Blackstone’s offer, Concord’s bid had the support of shareholders that own 29.4% of the company’s equity.

Any offer would free the fund and its investors from a serious bind. Once a freewheeling darling of the music business that acquired rights to music by Red Hot Chili Peppers, Neil Young and Shakira, the company suffered from a struggling share price, the cancellation of the dividend and — the coup de grace — an unflattering due diligence report by investment bank Shot Tower Capital released March 28 that found the company’s investment adviser, the Merck Mercuriadis-led HSM, committed a series of missteps. Among them: HSM “materially overstated” annual revenue by improperly accounting for revenue and missed growth forecasts on 75% of the fund’s catalogs by an average of 23% annually, and the investment adviser overstated the amount of control that HSF has over the rights it had acquired. The latter conclusion is key to the value of HSF’s portfolio because owning a song’s copyright is more valuable than owning a writer’s or producer’s share of the royalties it generates.

As a result of its findings, Shot Tower lowered HSF’s portfolio value by 26%, from $2.62 billion to $1.95 billion.

“Shareholders are going to vote for whichever [bid is] the higher,” says Josh Gruss, co-founder and CEO of Round Hill Music, who until last November, ran Round Hill’s rival publicly listed music royalty fund. (Concord bought that public fund last year, and Gruss became a Hipgnosis shareholder a few months later.) “I think investors have been through such a roller coaster most of them just want their money back.”

HSM’s response to the Shot Tower report, which was issued the same day, claimed that aspects of it were “factually inaccurate and misleading.”

Not surprisingly, several of HSF’s largest and most long-lasting investors were angered by the report’s findings. Investment managers, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to comment publicly before the next board meeting, said that the report’s findings presented extraordinary examples of gross incompetence and “myriad” accounting issues.

Stifel analyst Sachin Saggar, who raised red flags about the company’s accounting and valuation as far back as 2021, says the Shot Tower report revealed “a catalog of errors” that should have been prevented by the layers of protection — a board of directors, an independent auditor, internal systems and adherence to accounting principles — typically afforded to investors.

“If you had a half-decent board at [the initial public offering], you [could] have stopped some of these things happening very easily because they’re quite obvious and they were well-flagged by us three years ago.”

Merck Mercuriadis on Feb. 8, 2021 in Los Angeles.

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While the offers could be the answer to HSF’s financial straits, if the Concord bid gets accepted, one question remains: What becomes of Mercuriadis, who is the founder and public face of Hipgnosis, the chairman of HSF’s investment adviser and, until recently, the cocksure self-appointed spokesman for the red-hot song catalog sales market?

The Shot Tower report reinforced doubts that the board can continue to work with Mercuriadis and his team — one investor deems the relationship “broken down” — although parting with him is easier said than done.

Terminating the investment adviser’s contract without cause would give HSM a termination fee and, more critically, an option to buy the entire portfolio at whichever is highest: fair market value, a third party’s bid or the company’s market capitalization.

According to the April 18 announcement, Concord would take over management of HSF’s assets after “a brief transition period” during which Mercuriadis’ HSM remained the investment adviser. The announcement stated that the two sides have not yet begun discussions about terminating the investment advisory agreement.

Matt Hose, a London-based equity analyst for Jefferies, says the HSF board “is trying to highlight that Merck was incompetent so they can terminate [the investment adviser] with cause and not pay out the fees.” He adds that this strategy would prevent Mercuriadis from “stopping the board from selling the portfolio in the open market and getting full value.”

Removing the investment adviser would be an unusual outcome. Hose says he has never seen an investment manager terminated for cause in the 15 years he has covered investment trusts.

HSF’s largest investors support terminating the investment adviser’s contract, but they were reticent to say that the board can prove it has sufficient reason to fire HSM “with cause.”

“People are pretty fed up with the [investment adviser] as a result of this [report],” one investment manager says. “There are some quite extraordinary allegations in this report. I don’t think I’ve seen accusations of gross incompetence laid out in this way. I’ve seen accusations of fraud, but not this.”

Hose points out that, counterintuitively, HSF’s stock price rose 10% on the day the Shot Tower report was released.

“Shareholders want termination for cause because it’s the cleanest exit. Whether they’re going to get it or not — that’s the question.”

If the board moves to terminate the investment manager with cause, investors say Mercuriadis and Blackstone may fight it in court. In such a scenario, they say the two sides would probably settle with HSF for a lump sum of money but not the right to buy the portfolio. They note that a prolonged court battle would bring Blackstone the kind of negative headlines it’s known to avoid.

Other catalog portfolio managers say, bad press be damned, Blackstone will not give up its right to HSF’s quality assets.

“The underlying assets are solid, whether they paid one turn or two turns too much,” says David Schulhof, CEO of music-focused exchange traded fund MUSQ.

A Blackstone acquisition, on the other hand, would be the best outcome for Mercuriadis, as HSM would continue to oversee the portfolio. Regardless of how the aftermath plays out, half a dozen HSF investors and analysts said they cannot see Mercuriadis and HSM remaining the investment manager of a publicly traded fund or the fund continuing as a publicly listed entity.

“It has to spin into a sale at this point,” Round Hill’s Gruss says. “It’s clear that even before these announcements shareholders were hell bent on removing Blackstone as the investment adviser, through legal means or otherwise. It’s a much more elegant solution for shareholders to just sell.”

Despite the enduring value of much of HSF’s portfolio, the board is telling shareholders that a quick sale is their best option. In its April 18 announcement, the board indicated that accepting Concord’s bid would “[mitigate] the risks we see ahead to achieving a material improvement in the share price.” Other than an outright acquisition, it warned, “all alternative options carry significant risks, uncertainties and limitations.”

A version of this story will appear in the April 27, 2024, issue of Billboard.

Hipgnosis Song Management (HSM), the investment advisor for the troubled music royalty fund Hipgnosis Songs Fund that has come under scrutiny for its handling of accounting issues, released a statement Monday (April 22) saying it has “repeatedly been blamed for many issues affecting the [Songs Fund] which were not HSM’s responsibility” and that it “will vigorously protect its interests should the [Songs Fund board] purport to terminate” it as investment advisor.
The statement comes after a wave of headlines in the past month dating back to the March 28 release of a report by Shot Tower Capital which alleged that HSM, as investment advisor for Hipgnosis Songs Fund — which owns full or partial rights to song catalogs from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Shakira and Neil Young, among others — overstated its revenues, the scope of its assets and its earnings in disclosures to investors and regulators. That followed a vote last October in which shareholders first rejected a proposed sale of some of the fund’s song catalog and a subsequent vote of no to continuation — the equivalent of a vote of no confidence — in the fund’s previous board and its investment advisor HSM, prompting the formation of a new board with a new chairman, Rob Naylor. (Merck Mercuriadis, the founder of the fund, moved from CEO of HSM to chairman in February.)

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In the past few days, two potential takeover bids have been submitted to the board of Hipgnosis Songs Fund: one from Concord at $1.4 billion and the other from Blackstone, which is the majority owner of HSM, at $1.5 billion. The initial Concord bid suggested that the publishing company would take over management of the fund’s catalog from HSM, which would require 12 months’ written notice; a fee equal to one year of services; and, at the end of that year, allowing HSM to exercise a call option to buy the portfolio’s assets by outbidding any competing offer, according to previous filings.

In the new statement, HSM indicates that it would exercise that call option if it becomes necessary.

“Based on extensive legal advice we are confident that the [Songs Fund] has no legal grounds to terminate our relationship without being subject to HSM’s contractual rights contained in the [investment advisory agreement, or IAA],” Hipgnosis Songs Management’s statement reads. “HSM has explained this in detailed legal correspondence with the [fund]. The [fund] has not responded to HSM on the legal arguments it has presented.

“HSM will vigorously protect its interests should the [fund] purport to terminate the IAA,” the statement continues. “We will use all means necessary to defend our contractual position and interests. It is important that shareholders, songwriters and artists understand that HSM has acted appropriately and professionally in our role as Investment Advisor and fully in accordance with the IAA.

“To be clear, were the [fund] to purport to terminate the IAA and/or hand HSM’s responsibilities under the IAA to a third party, HSM and its majority shareholder are fully resolved to protect all of our rights under the IAA, including the right to exercise the call option to acquire the [fund]’s assets.”

Earlier today, the board of Hipgnosis Songs Fund said that, were Blackstone to officially file its $1.5 billion bid to take over the company, it would support that option over the Concord bid from last week. And given Blackstone’s majority ownership of HSM, it would presumably follow that HSM would then continue in its role as investment advisor, meaning HSM would not have to exercise its call option in the end. The Blackstone bid is effectively the same as the call option.

Further bids may still arise as the situation continues to unfold. The next step would be a June 10 meeting in which shareholders would vote on approval of any bid that formally comes in. 

Hipgnosis Songs Fund’s board of directors said on Monday that it would support a takeover bid from Blackstone if the private equity giant officially files its $1.5 billion offer for the music royalty fund. Blackstone said on Saturday (April 20) in what it called a “possible offer” that it was prepared to bid $1.24 per […]

Private equity giant Blackstone bid $1.5 billion to buy Hipgnosis Songs Fund on Saturday (April 20), marking a significant escalation in the fight for control of the troubled music royalty fund and its collection of rights to songs by Neil Young, Journey, Lindsey Buckingham, Blondie and others.
Blackstone is offering $1.24 per share in an all-cash offer that represents an 8.7% premium over the previous day’s closing share price, and is significantly higher than the $1.4 billion takeover bid that Nashville-based Concord Chorus made for the fund earlier this week.

Blackstone already owns two other entities under the Hipgnosis name — the private music assets investment fund Hipgnosis Songs Capital and the investment advisor Hipgnosis Song Management — and its bid on Saturday showed the private equity behemoth is willing to flex its muscle to maintain assets under the Hipgnosis umbrella.

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The five-year-old, London-listed Hipgnosis Songs Fund has cut its net asset value and shareholder dividends in recent months, as it struggled to address accounting errors and infighting between its board and investment manager that have angered investors already frustrated by an underwhelming stock price.

On Thursday (April 18), the board of directors announced in a filing with the London Stock Exchange that it had agreed to recomment a $1.402 billion proposed takeover bid from Concord to shareholders, which values each Hipgnosis share at £0.93 ($1.14). While the board said that institutional investors representing 30% of the fund’s outstanding shares were on board to vote in favor of the deal with Concord, it still needs shareholder approval from investors holding a total of 75% of shares.

Blackstone’s Hipgnosis Song Management, the investment adviser to the public fund and the private fund (Hipgnosis Songs Capital), has the right to outbid Concord and any other rival bidders to take the fund’s assets private, according to an option in its contract laid out when the fund went public in 2018.

The option was created with the sensitivities unique to music rights in mind. Hipgnosis Songs Fund was founded and built by Merck Mercuriadis, a longtime music executive and manager for artists like Elton John, Beyoncé and Guns N’ Roses. Mercuriadis used his relationships in the music industry to build the fund’s portfolio of rights to hit songs, and this option in the investment advisory contract was designed to give artists confidence that their catalogs would never trade hands — something that famously angered Taylor Swift.

However, since Hipgnosis Songs Fund investors served the board of directors the equivalent of a no-confidence vote last fall, this option has presented hurdles for the board in its effort to secure outside bids for the portfolio.

In its offer, which references Concord’s bid as $1.16 per share due to fluctuations in exchange rates, Blackstone said it “strongly encourages the board of Hipgnosis to recognise the significant increase in value available to all shareholders under the terms of its Fourth Proposal, over the $1.16 as set out in the Concord Offer, and to work with Blackstone to reach agreement on a unanimously recommended Firm Offer in an expeditious manner.”

Concord has named veteran label executive Stephanie Hudacek president of its Rounder Records, the company announced Thursday (March 28). Hudacek, who founded and has served as president of distributor and label Soundly Music since 2017, takes over the label that is home to the likes of Billy Strings, Ruston Kelly, Sierra Farrell and Katie Pruittand has recently released posthumous albums from Gregg Allman and Dr. John.
Established in 1970 in Nashville, Rounder has been the home of artists like George Thorogood, Alison Krauss and Béla Fleck through the years, racking up 54 Grammy Awards along the way. Acquired by Concord in 2010, it’s one of eight standalone labels under the Concord Label Group umbrella, alongside Fantasy, Fearless, Loma Vista, PULSE, Easy Eye Sound, Concord Records and Concord Jazz.

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“Throughout her career, Stephanie has shown a deep commitment to artists and songwriters as well as an incredible intuition for what it takes to bring their music to the world,” said Concord Label Group CEO Tom Becci, who took over the top job last August, in a statement. “She has the requisite skills to preserve the label’s distinct history while ensuring her artists and team have the resources necessary for continued success in an evolving environment.”

Prior to launching Soundly Music, where she worked with artists such as Maggie Rose and Pony Bradshaw, Hudacek was GM of Riser House Records in Nashville, working in the country and Americana realms. Before that, she was an artist and tour manager, working with the likes of Joan Baez and Darrell Scott. For the past two years, Hudacek also doubled as president of Late August Records.

“It is an unbelievable honor to be able to lead Rounder Records,” Hudacek said in a statement. “Throughout its history, Rounder has shown an uncompromising devotion to great, authentic artistry, which has made it a natural home for artists seeking the same. That is a tradition I am thrilled to carry on.”

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The year saw K-pop companies making mega moves on a global scale, while the catalog market remained hot.

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Sony Music Publishing ruled the Top Radio Airplay, Hot 100 Songs and Country Airplay publisher rankings for its third consecutive quarter of 2023, and Warner Chappell Music surged to No. 2 on the Hot 100 Songs chart ­— the first time it has held the position since the Hot 100 ranking began in 2019.

For the period spanning July through September, all of the big three publishers benefited from shares in the Afrobeats radio hit “Calm Down” by Rema and Selena Gomez. Sony also benefited from stakes in “Last Night” by Morgan Wallen, which hit No. 5 on the Top Radio Airplay chart, and Taylor Swift’s surprise hit “Cruel Summer,” which reached No. 3 on the quarter’s Hot 100 Songs ranking, four years after its initial release due to its placement as the opening song of Swift’s The Eras Tour.

Last quarter, Tracy Chapman’s Purple Rabbit Music publishing company broke into the Hot 100 and Top Radio Airplay charts (ranking No. 7 and No. 10, respectively) for the first time, thanks to Luke Combs’ cover of her 1988 song “Fast Car.” This quarter, her market share as a publisher/songwriter grew even higher. Chapman finished the quarter as the top songwriter on all three charts, propelling Purple Rabbit Music to No. 5 on Top Radio Airplay and No. 6 on both Hot 100 Songs and Country Airplay.

But she wasn’t the only self-published songwriter to make the charts this quarter. As the sole writer of “Rich Men North of Richmond,” Oliver Anthony Music’s publishing company, Christopher Anthony Lunsford Pub Designee, placed at No. 8 on Hot 100 Songs with a 1.49% market share, surpassing such top 10 perennials as Downtown and Reservoir. Like Chapman, Anthony is the sole songwriter of his breakthrough song.

This is the first time that two independent songwriters have broken into the Hot 100 Songs chart at the same time.

Warner Chappell rose to No. 2 on the Hot 100 ranking for the first time in 19 quarters. Previously, it often ranked third or fourth. “Last Night” by Morgan Wallen, “Calm Down” by Rema and Selena Gomez, and 49 other Hot 100 Songs hits accounted for its strong showing of 18.18% of the market share. The publisher held steady in third place on the Top Radio Airplay chart with 15.87% of the market share, and ranked second on the Country Airplay chart with a 26.2% share.

Universal Music Publishing Group took second place on Top Radio Airplay ­— where its song placements increased to 52 from 49 in the second quarter — and third on Hot 100 Songs. Combs’ “Love You Anyway,” No. 3 on Country Airplay; “Cruel Summer”; and “Calm Down” were UMPG’s highest-ranked songs.

Kobalt held fast to No. 4 on both Top Radio Airplay and Hot 100 Songs but slid to No. 5 on Country Airplay behind BMG. The latter publisher’s share in Jelly Roll’s “Need a Favor” helped it edge past Kobalt’s 4.59% market share with 4.93%.

BMG and Big Machine Music both climbed in the ranks on the Country Airplay charts this quarter. BMG rose from fifth to fourth ranking, thanks to its share of 12 songs on the chart this quarter, including Jelly Roll’s “Need a Favor.” BMM climbed from eighth last quarter (2.57%) to seventh this quarter (2.97%), thanks in part to Luke Bryan’s “But I Got a Beer In My Hand.”

Concord finished 10th on Top Radio Airplay with 1.37%. That percentage might rise in the fourth quarter due to its acquisitions of Round Hill Music and Mojo Music & Media in September. If Concord’s third-quarter market share was combined with those of Round Hill and Pulse, which Concord also owns but lists separately, it would have finished at No. 5 on Top Radio Airplay with 4.96% and at No. 7 on Hot 100 Songs with 3.1%.

Rounding out the top 10, Reservoir fell to No. 8 on Top Radio Airplay with 1.82%, though it improved on its No. 7-ranked second-­quarter share of 1.62%. It rounded out the Hot 100 Songs top 10 with 1.17%. Hipgnosis (1.76%) and Downtown (1.44%) finished at No. 9 on Top Radio Airplay and Hot 100 Songs, respectively.

Additional reporting by Ed Christman.

Concord announced the completion of its $468 million acquisition of the Round Hill Music Royalty Fund on Thursday (Nov. 2), officially completing the year’s biggest catalog deal. The deal includes over 150,000 songs, among them works by The Beatles and tunes recorded by Elvis Presley, Meatloaf, James Brown and Billie Holiday, but also marked a pivotal moment for publicly traded royalty funds and Concord’s scale of business.

Concord CEO Scott Valentine, who succeeded Scott Pascucci in February, spoke to Billboard about the deal, what it says about the state of the music royalties market and how Concord plans to deal with the headwinds that currently face the music industry.

On Oct. 31, you closed the acquisition of Round Hill Music Royalty Fund. Why was it attractive to Concord and what does it say about the state of the song catalog market?

When you look at the landscape of acquisitions of scale and quality, [Round Hill’s] assets had been on our radar for a while. Our view was that the stock price of the company wasn’t giving the appropriate fair value to what the assets were worth. Josh was one of the early proponents of the notion of music assets as financial assets. We have similar backgrounds, having started in investment banking. The quality of assets that Round Hill had accumulated was remarkable, in terms of the breadth, the genres and the ability for these assets to be used in film and television. There are Beatles songs in here for God’s sake. I’m referring to these things as assets. They’re works of art, really, that have stood the test of time from a revenue perspective.

You’ve indicated that this deal counters the broader narrative that the music royalty market has deflated over the last year or so. Why?

Our deal proves that from an institutional perspective the underlying value of copyrights is still there. We’ve just gone through the first-ever cycle of price increases at the DSPs. It seems, knock on wood, that the impact on churn has been within the tolerance levels [of customers]. You have continued growth in countries around the world that have never in the history of the music business been significant sources of legitimate revenue. We are now expecting fairly regular price increases [by the DSPs] in mature markets. So, if you believe in the long-term trends that suggest the value of music should increase over the mid-term. Then, as institutional investors, it comes down to what is your time horizon?

But with Concord acquiring one publicly listed music royalty fund, and Hipgnosis investors voting to possibly wind up the Hipgnosis Songs Fund, doesn’t this spell the end of the publicly traded music royalty fund experiment?

The story isn’t written yet on Hipgnosis. Their shareholders and board still have time to [explore options]. The thing that strikes me about the commentary around Hipgnosis has been the fundamental belief by shareholders in the underlying value of the assets it owns. Shareholders rejected the sale of those assets because they seemed to fundamentally believe the value of those assets was greater than [what they could get in that) proposed in the sale.

The question is whether a publicly traded fund is or isn’t the right vehicle to access returns. We’ve tapped the asset-backed securities space and have done very well. There is certainly private investment happening and it continues to happen. I still see significant institutional interest in this space. We are still getting inbound requests from artists, managers, etcetera, asking us to look at assets for sale. The underlying market for assets is robust. Because interest rates have gone up, the high end of the price scale has come down. But there is still plenty of activity where the prices make sense.

How do you view Concord’s creative mission and direction?

We built the company over time around our catalog. We have an extraordinary catalog of works that span over a century. Because we’ve been financed by pension funds and institutional investors, the cash flow of the catalog and investing in catalogs has been part of how we grow the company. But I’m keenly focused on the notion that we are not a fund. We are a fully functional organic music company. You can’t be a music company without creating new art and discovering new artists and exposing those new artists to the world. They will create the next remarkable piece of art that 50 years from now people talk about buying. Concord has the scale now and the relationships to be a leader in catalog acquisition and exploitation but also front-line investment. And on the music publishing side, we have really grown that business over the last three to four years. We have the writers of some of the largest songs in the world. One of ours co-wrote most of the last two Harry Styles records. On the recorded side, we’ve always been in more niche genres — jazz, bluegrass, adult contemporary. We have not been in the front-line pop business or R&B or hip-hop. Those genres have always been the domain of the majors. It’s because it takes a significant amount of marketing expenditure and recording…. That said, we’re now the size that we can compete occasionally to get a few artists in those genres. I think it’s important to grow that business.

We have seen layoffs hit different music companies over the last 18 months. Do you feel your team is in good shape? Are you looking to make any pivots in strategy or structure?

From a senior exec position, [former chief label officer] Tom Whalley stepped back, so we had to find a replacement. That’s why we got Tom Becci. Because he is taking on this new role, there is a little bit of tweaking that will go on — the integration of frontline and catalog. How people report up through the recorded music division and how people spend their time may take some tweaking. But it’s a structural shift —reporting changes. I feel like we’ve always thought about the business and growth in a careful way so that we hopefully did not over hire or put people in situations where, if there was a retrenchment in the business, we had challenges. I don’t see the need for wholesale changes or layoffs in the near term.

What is the thinking behind putting frontline and catalog under the same roof?

From our perspective, the issue with catalog versus frontline is you’re really talking about a relationship with an artist. If we have an artist on one of our frontline labels who also has catalog, having two different divisions working that artists’ life work creates some weird, unintended division when the artist is hoping to have one team of people. So, it’s an alignment to get into the way the artist is thinking about their own work. There is an industry tendency to spend a lot of work on an artist’s latest album for good reason. But in the world we live in today, an artist’s older works can be reactivated very quickly in tandem with the release of a new album. We hired Tom largely because he’s had a little bit of everything. He has worked in catalog, frontline at Universal, in management. He’s got perspective from all these different angles.

What is happening with Concord’s theatrical division?

We own Rodgers and Hammerstein. We rep 30,000 theatrical rights. It’s a sneaky, large part of our business. It’s a very interesting corner of our business that we’ve built through acquisitions in the last five years. We did those acquisitions [starting in] 2018, and the challenge has been that a lot of our business is licensing to schools and universities that were impacted during Covid. We were also a producer in Hadestown, and an investor in Some Like It Hot. We are continuing to invest in new shows on Broadway and repping works that are going out on tour. There is a fair amount of investment going on there.

What are revenues going to come in at this year?

I think we’re going to come in around the mid-$600 million range. We’ve been growing pretty consistently.

How much debt does the company carry?

The ABS was $1.8 billion and then we just did the separate tranche with Apollo for $500 million. We have a revolver as well with a consortium of banks. I don’t remember that balance, but we did not use up all of our dry powder [on the Round Hill deal]. One of the reasons we wanted to do the initial bond offering with Apollo was that we thought there was an opportunity to go back to the market when we wanted to finance acquisitions. We think there is going to be a rinse and repeat component to our access to that market.

Round Hill Music Royalty Fund’s shareholders voted on Wednesday to sell the fund’s assets to U.S.-based music company Concord in a deal that values the company at $469 million. Of the 69% of Round Hill Music shareholders who were eligible to vote, 99% voted to approve the sale, which fund chairman Robert Naylor called a […]