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By now you’re surely aware that Kelly Clarkson can sing just about any song. The pop star and talk show host has run the gamut from pop and rock to country and soul during her beloved daily “Kellyoke” sessions that open each episode of her daytime chat series. Over the years, she’s taken on songs from Ariana Grande, theWhite Stripes, Dolly Parton, Lady Gaga, Coldplay, Heart and the Pixies, as well as fellow American Idol winner Carrie Underwood, My Chemical Romance and many more.
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So we know Clarkson has eclectic musical tastes, but what inquiring minds really want to find out is what are the singer’s top three albums of all time? Luckily, on Monday’s (Nov. 10) show, Clarkson spilled the beans on her royal trio. Taking viewers on a walk through the backstage of her series’ studio, pointing to some of the pictures of her biggest influences lining the walls, Clarkson set the stage for the big reveal.
Pointing to the framed cover of Lauryn Hill‘s Grammy-winning debut solo album, 1998’s The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Clarkson said if you don’t like the Billboard 200 No. 1 smash “you’re an idiot,” adding that the LP is one of the reasons she became a songwriter. She also noted that Americana legend Patty Griffin is her all-time favorite singer-songwriter and also shouted out Alanis Morissette, the Toadies and Aretha Franklin, among others.
But when it come to her absolute favorites, there was no doubt, with Clarkson giving a jokey, no bones caveat: “I hope you like them. If you don’t, you’re dumb.”
First up with Griffin’s 2002 classic 1000 Kisses from the artist Clarkson loves so much that her fans have put together “secret” compilation albums of Griffin’s music that have never been officially released.
“I love her so much. Her storytelling, her voice, her tone, her musicianship… the timing. She just does everything so beautiful,” Clarkson said of the 61-year-old Maine native whose self-titled 2019 LP won the Grammy for best folk album. Clarkson recalled that former boyfriend musician Graham Colton introduced her to Griffin’s music. “He was a great dude, but I wills ay the best part of that relationship was honestly him showing me this artist. I cannot thank him enough, she’s changed my life,” Clarkson said.
Number two on Kelly’s list was U2‘s 1998 compilation, The Best Of 1980-1990. While there are other U2 albums she loves, Clarkson said this 14-song compilation featuring such indelible hits as “Pride (In the Name of Love),” “New Year’s Day,” “With or Without You,” “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For,” “Sunday Bloody Sunday,” “Desire,” “Angel of Harlem” and others is the bomb.
“I saw them at Madison Square Garden and it was the most insane show of my life and it was like a spiritual experience,” said Clarkson, who noted that she appreciates the band’s career-long struggle with the sacred and the profane. “Sometimes you’re like, ‘is he talking about a woman? Is he talking about a relationship with God? Is he just stoned and having a good time?’ I don’t know but I’m in and I want to know more,” she said.
The third pick might be a surprise given Clarkson’s pure pop roots, but holding up Hill’s Miseducation, the singer said she had the CD — which she bought with her own money — cued up in her Walkman and did not leave her home except to go to school for days in order to listen to the album on repeat. “I was like, ‘this is the coolest thing,’” she recalled thinking. “It wasn’t just the fact that she’s an incredible vocalist. It wasn’t even the fact that there’s incredible [background vocals] and how they interact with each other and intertwine. It was so clever, but not so processed and thought out. It was, like, organic.”
She also, of course, loved the “real, authentic” messages in the lyrics that, as a budding songwriter, taught her about the importance of writing with an authentic, believable voice. “This was a whole album story like something that will stand the test of time,” she said.
Watch Clarkson talk about her favorite albums below.
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Train are gearing up to celebrate a quarter-century of one of their most indelible hits next summer on the Drops of Jupiter: 25 years in the Atmosphere tour. The veteran band announced the dates for the summer 2026 headlining tour on Monday morning (Nov. 10), revealing that the career-spanning outing will feature support from the Barenaked Ladies and singer-songwriter Matt Nathanson.
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The Live Nation-produced tour is slated to kick off on July 6 at the iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre in West Palm Beach, Fla., followed by 38 stops in Georgia, North Carolina, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Ohio, Tennessee, Ontario, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Texas, Arizona, California, Nevada and Oregon before winding down with an Aug. 30 gig at White River Amphitheatre in Auburn, Wash.
The “Hey, Soul Sister” band also revealed that acclaimed songwriter/producer and frequent collaborator Butch Walker (P!nk, Green Day) has officially joined the band, adding guitar and vocals to the lineup led by singer Pat Monahan that also features bassist Hector Maldonado, keyboardist Jerry Becker and drummer Matt Musty. Train announced the tour with a funny 90-second video featuring George Lopez in which Monahan has his tarot cards read by the wig-wearing veteran comedian, who conjures all the details of the outing in his crystal ball.
Fans can sign up now for an artist pre-sale for most of the dates beginning on Tuesday (Nov. 11) at 12 p.m. local time here. More pre-sales will run throughout the week ahead of a general on-sale beginning on Friday (Nov. 14) at 10 a.m. local time. Citi cardmembers will also have access to a pre-sale beginning on Tuesday at 10 a.m. local time through Thursday (Nov. 13) at 10 p.m. local time here.
2001’s Drops of Jupiter album spun off the title track single, which ran up to No. 5 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart in March of that year, staying on the chart for a total of 53 weeks. In addition to the tour dates, Train is gearing up to release new music in the spring, according to a release announcing the shows. Train’s most recent full-length album was 2022’s AM Gold.
Check out the Drops of Jupiter: 25 Years in the Atmosphere 2026 North American summer tour dates below:
July 8: West Palm Beach, Fla. @ iTHINK Financial Amphitheatre
July 10: Tampa, Fla. @ MIDFLORIDA Credit Union Amphitheatre
July 11: Alpharetta, Ga. @ Ameris Bank Amphitheatre
July 12: Orange Beach, Ala. @ The Wharf Amphitheater
July 14: Charlotte, N.C. @ PNC Music Pavilion
July 16: Raleigh, N.C. @ Coastal Credit Union Music Park at Walnut Creek
July 17: Columbia, Md. @ Merriweather Post Pavilion
July 18: Wantagh, N.Y. @ Northwell at Jones Beach Theater
July 20: Gilford, N.H. @ BankNH Pavilion
July 22: Saratoga Springs, N.Y. @ Saratoga Performing Arts Center
July 24: Holmdel, N.J. @ PNC Bank Arts Center
July 25: Mansfield, Mass. @ Xfinity Center
July 26: Camden, N.J. @ Freedom Mortgage Pavilion
July 28: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio @ Blossom Music Center
July 29: Cincinnati, Ohio @ Riverbend Music Center
July 31: Nashville, Tenn. @ Ascend Amphitheater
Aug. 1: Noblesville, Ind. @ Ruoff Music Center
Aug. 4: Toronto, ON @ RBC Amphitheatre (*Co-headline with Barenaked Ladies)
Aug. 5: Clarkston, Mich. @ Pine Knob Music Theatre
Aug. 7: Tinley Park, Ill. @ Credit Union 1 Amphitheatre
Aug. 8: Madison, Wisc. @ Breese Stevens Field
Aug. 9: Shakopee, Minn. @ Mystic Lake Amphitheater
Aug. 11: St. Louis, Mo. @ Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
Aug. 12: Riverside, Mo. @ Morton Amphitheater
Aug. 14: The Woodlands, Texas @ The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion
Aug. 15: Dallas, Texas @ Dos Equis Pavilion
Aug. 17: Morrison, Colo. @ Red Rocks Amphitheatre
Aug. 19: West Valley City, Utah @ Utah First Credit Union Amphitheatre
Aug. 21: Phoenix, Ariz. @ Talking Stick Resort Amphitheatre
Aug. 22: Santa Barbara, Calif. @ Santa Barbara Bowl +
Aug. 24: Los Angeles, Calif. @ Greek Theatre
Aug. 25: Lake Tahoe, Nev. @ Lake Tahoe Amphitheatre at Caesars Republic
Aug. 26: Mountain View, Calif. @ Shoreline Amphitheatre
Aug. 28: Bend, Ore. @ Hayden Homes Amphitheater
Aug. 29: Ridgefield, Wash. @ Cascades Amphitheater
Aug. 30: Auburn, Wash. @ White River Amphitheatre
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Trending on Billboard Hilary Duff continued her return to music on Monday morning (Nov. 10) with the announcement of her first run of live performances in more than a decade. After dropping her new single, “Mature,” last week, Duff expanded her comeback with the roll-out of a quartet of intimate January 2026 shows under the […]
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To coincide with her mainstage performance at Dubai’s Untold Festival this weekend (Nov. 6-9), India-based global superstar Nora Fatehi has unveiled a brand new single — and she’s brought Jamaican dancehall-pop sensation Shenseea along for the ride.
Out Friday (Nov. 7) via 5 Junction and Warner Records, “What Do I Know” is an infectious, dancefloor-ready banger that blends subtle house influences with elements of Jamaican dancehall, courtesy of Shenseea’s show-stealing verse. Written by three-time Grammy nominee Justin Tranter, Fatehi’s new track plays on the dominant “I’m just a girl” social media meme to explore femininity, power and sensuality through a global pop lens. Her seductive timbre pairs well with the track’s sleek production, and Shenseea’s commanding presence doubles down on her global appeal post-“Shake It to the Max” and offers a nice contrast to both.
“What Do I Know” is also accompanied by an entertaining, Arrad-helmed music video, featuring scenes inspired by Marilyn Monroe’s iconic rendition of “Diamonds Are a Girl’s Best Friend” from 1953’s Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. “I definitely learned to be more expressive and animated,” Shenseea tells Billboard of the music video shoot. “I haven’t fully tapped into that side yet, but I think it’s time now.”
Beyond Dubai’s Untold Festival, Fatehi is set to make her U.S. television debut with the first live performance of “What Do I Know,” alongside Shenseea, on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. A Bollywood star turned renowned multi-hyphenate, 2025 has been a busy year for Fatehi. In March, she starred in and provided songs for the soundtrack of Be Happy, an Indian Hindi-language dance drama from Amazon Prime, and, by May, she appeared in Netflix’s The Royals rom-com series.
On the music side of things, Fatehi connected with Jason Derulo for “Snake” at the top of the year, and by April, she was announced as one of the first signees to 5 Junction Records — a joint venture label under Warner Music Group aiming to serve as “a pipeline for South Asian artists to reach North American listeners.”
“South Asian music is having its moment, and Nora Fatehi is a global sensation bringing together sounds from India, the Middle East, and contemporary pop,” 5 Junction Records co-founder Anjula Acharia says in a statement. “With over 46 million fans already behind her, we’re now taking Nora and her sound from India to the world.”
Below, Nora Fatehi dishes on her new single and what else fans can expect from them as they enter 2026.
What inspired “What Do I Know (Just A Girl)”? What message did you want to get across with this song?
All the credit goes to our iconic writer Justin Tranter and producers Max Martin and Robyn. It’s a brilliant concept of a song, and when I first heard it, all I could think of was how so many girls would be able to relate to the idea of being misunderstood, undervalued and unappreciated. It’s a cheeky way of telling the world that we play the game wisely, but with our own rules, of course. We know what we bring to the table, and our power is not to be taken for granted.
Why did Shenseea feel like the right collaborator for this song?
I love Shenseea as an artist and have been following and supporting her work for years! I wanted a collaboration that reflected my global multicultural appeal, and I feel Shenseea, as a Jamaican artist, brings just that. Her style adds the extra spice; she embodies confidence, edge and femininity. She’s also someone who’s broken barriers in her own lane, just like I’ve had to do in mine. I’ve always wanted to incorporate dancehall elements into my music, and being able to have her dancehall touch [on] a pop record like “What Do I Know (Just A Girl)” feels so unique.
What can fans expect from your first televised performance of the song?
I’m so excited to perform this song on TV for the first time! Fans can expect a lot of dancing, glam and drama. We are currently preparing the entire concept. But I’m definitely leaning into some amazing choreography and, of course, some fun moments with Shenseea.
What was the music video shoot like?
We had a blast shooting the video. It was a hectic two days, but the sequences were worth i,t and I had the chance to work with some of the best in the business. One of my favourite choreographers, JaQuel Knight, did the dance choreography, and Arrad, known for some of the coolest pop and hip-hop music videos, directed the project. My favourite part was the airplane sequence. I’ve always wanted to add a bit of comedy in my music videos, and we did just that.
Why do you feel this song “marks the start of your pop girl era?”
With “What Do I Know (Just A Girl),” I’m embracing a sound, a style and an attitude that reflects everything I’ve learned from my journey so far. Bollywood, Afrobeat, Arabic influences, Western pop, all of these worlds make me who I am as an artist today, and in my new era, these worlds are all fused into one unapologetic expression. It’s not about fitting in; it’s about creating my own lane in the pop world.
This era is bold, glamorous and empowering. It’s about celebrating femininity while being powerful, sexy and strong. I’ve always loved artists who could command a global stage like Beyoncé, Rihanna and Shakira. I’m finally stepping into that energy with my own flavor. This is me saying: I’m here. I’m not just a dancer, not just an actress, but also I’m a global pop girl.
How did you go about fusing dancehall and pop on this track?
The track is as pop as it can get, which I love! However, the addition of Shenseea takes the track to another level. The fusion happens so subtly and beautifully through her delivery in the second verse.
For you, what is the importance of global collaborations and working with artists across genres?
They open up so many creative doors and allow artists to blend cultures, sounds, and emotions in a way that speaks to people everywhere. When I work with artists from different parts of the world or from different genres, it’s not just about making a song — it’s about creating a fusion of energy, rhythm, and stories.
Music and dance have no language barrier, and I truly believe collaboration helps us celebrate that universality. It’s how we grow as artists, by learning from each other’s influences, experimenting with new styles, and building bridges between audiences. It’s the most beautiful part of being in the global entertainment space.
Based on “What Do I Know (Just A Girl)” and “Snake,” when can fans expect a full project from you?
I’m currently working on my EP for 2026, and my fans expect to see a different side of me as an artist. I’m experimenting with my sound more than ever and gearing up to drop some dance bangers for the summer.
Trending on Billboard Sir Rod Stewart has extended his globe-hopping One Last Time tour yet again. After taking the greatest hits outing across Europe, Asia and North and South America over the past year and a half, the pop icon announced another round of shows in the U.S. next spring and summer on Friday morning […]
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SEVENTEEN sub-group CxM dropped a remix of their single “5, 4, 3 (Pretty Woman)” on Friday (Nov. 7) featuring rapper Flo Milli. The song, which first appeared on HYPE VIBES, the debut mini album from SEVENTEEN members S.COUPS and MINGYU, gets an injection of even more energy from the “Never Lose Me” MC, who weighs in on being pretty and powerful.
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“You gotta be tall, dark and handsome I’ll be your sexy little dancer/ Make this your pretty woman anthem he said I’m so hard to handle/ I step up in the room all eyes on me/ Don’t wanna look away ’cause the body so tea/ I told you pretty girls rock, pretty girls on top,” Milli raps over the song’s effervescent, bouncy arrangement, which features an interpolation of the chorus and hook of late rock icon Roy Orbison’s 1964 Billboard Hot 100 No. 1 hit “Oh, Pretty Woman.”
The original version of the song featured Philly rapper/singer Lay Bankz and appeared on CxM’s six-track debut, which dropped in late September. In addition to “5, 4,3 (Pretty Woman),” it featured the moody mid-tempo pop dance tunes “Worth It” and “For You,” as well flute-forward hip-hop banger “Fiesta” and the ballads “Young Again” and “Earth.”
HYPE VIBES debuted at No. 71 on the Billboard 200 album chart, marking the highest-ever ranking by a K-pop unit album on the U.S. tally; the EP also topped the Billboard Emerging Artists chart for three weeks. Both members of the 13-man South Korean boy band also had a hand in songwriting and composition all six tracks on the EP.
The whole group — which also features members JEONGHAN, JOSHUA, JUN, HOSHI, WONWOO, WOOZI, THE 8, DK, SEUNGKWAN, VERNON and DINO — will continue playing shows on their New World tour later this month when they kick off a three-night stand in Nagoya, Japan on Nov. 27, followed by three nights in Osaka (Dec. 4, 6, 7) before winding down the year with a pair of shows (Dec. 11-12) in Tokyo and two more in Fukuoka, Japan (Dec. 20-21).
Listen to “5, 4, 3 (Pretty Woman)” with Flo Milli below.
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While Naomi Scott has conquered Hollywood, starring in Aladdin and Power Rangers and delivering an Oscar-worthy performance last year as haunted pop star Skye Riley in Smile 2, her first love was music.
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That’s apparent in her October visit to the Billboard NYC offices, as the bubbly London native gushes about the array of artists currently filling her playlist — from Erika de Casier to Ariana Grande — and how proud she is of the journey to her long-awaited debut album, which is slated to arrive next year.
“It feels both emotionally honest, right, but also not completely a diary entry, autobiographical,” Scott, whose hair is freshly dyed a red pink, says of the album. “And one way that I wanted to also achieve that was a soundscape that I knew in my mind that I wanted to kind of build out that was cohesive, characterful and nostalgic, but also fresh.”
The 32-year-old singer-actress broke through in 2011 as part of Disney’s Lemonade Mouth, which produced a pair of Billboard Hot 100 soundtrack hits she contributed to: “Determinate” and “Breakthrough,” along with pop-rock fan-favorite “She’s So Gone.”
Over two decades in the making, Scott’s debut began to take shape in 2021. She struck gold during a trip to Norway when she DM’d producer Lido — who ended up being just five minutes away — on a whim. A FaceTime chat led to Lido (who’s also worked with Ariana Grande, Halsey and Jaden Smith) eventually becoming the album’s primary producer.
Homecooked meals with Lido’s parents and dips into the nearby fjord filled the gaps during recording breaks. The serenity of the small Norwegian town’s countryside brought a clarity to Scott and her team of collaborators throughout the creative process.
One of the songs that came about from the Norwegian sessions was “Sweet Nausea” — and the self-reflective track, which she describes as a “carousel of regret,” arrived on Friday (Nov. 7). “It could be a really big thing or a really tiny thing, but when that thing gets lodged in my mind that I said or I did, it’s like a scab that you have to keep picking, and you replay it over and over in your mind,” Scott explains of the single that was crafted in about 15 minutes. “Because you think that if you replay it enough times, it will change.”
Scott’s already set the table for the album with a trio of singles this year: “Rhythm,” “Cut Me Loose” and the alt-pop bop “Cherry.” She also made her festival debut with a performance at Lollapalooza in Chicago over the summer.
The multi-hyphenate entertainer will return to the stage on Friday for a show at London’s Moth Club, and then she’ll serve as an opener for Blood Orange, who’s a close friend and collaborator, on Sunday (Nov. 9) for his Alexandra Palace tour stop.
Dive into the rest of our interview with Naomi Scott below, as she talks about her upcoming album, her favorite artists and what playing Skye in Smile 2 meant to her career.
So how did we get here?
I’ve been making music for 15 years and kind of exploring and figuring things out. But that was at 27 — which, again, I think so many people go through a bit of an identity crisis [at that age]. Which sounds very dramatic, but it’s some sort of shift. It was kind of going back to basics. So before that point, I had been, you know, I was in L.A., I was working, I was in the studio. I was in kind of different pop rooms in that ecosystem. And I think it was very clear to me that I had to go back to basics. And to me, that is getting on a piano and writing like you’re 15 years old.
I started to build out what I felt like was subconsciously a bit of a theme in terms of the things that I was writing into. And so I basically wrote a bunch of demos, and I was like, “Oh, this feels cohesive in terms of what I’m tapping into.” Which is like an exploration into different versions of myself — not what we were talking about — which allowed me to kind of dip into something that felt intimate and have proximity to me, but also have a bit of world building aspect to it, and a little bit surreal. It’s a sweet spot.
The backdrop of this album sonically is things that I was listening to on my dad’s Windows Media Player growing up. It’s the music that brings me joy. I grew up in church. I grew up in gospel music, like pop gospel music. So you know, Mary Mary, Kirk Franklin, Kim Burrell, those voices. [Michael Jackson] and Janet [Jackson] are probably the biggest sonic influences. A little Phil Collins — Kate Bush, to me, represents an artist who remains in such a childlike [state of] play, even in terms of what she writes about.
When did the album start to take shape?
I started writing into this concept, subconsciously, probably in 2021. I can’t say it was like, “I’m gonna do this, and it’s gonna be this.” It was very much like, “Oh, I’m beginning to find that this process for me in writing is feeling more successful to me.” I like this seed, or the idea of it always being from me first — whether it’s a demo, whether it’s a fully written song on the piano, whether it’s just a chorus. So for example, when I’d done a couple of these demos, I’d got, like seeds of ideas, and then I was I had a session with two people who would be become.
So basically my so my main collaborators on the project, Daphne Gale and Goldwash… I came in with the chorus for “Losing You.” I came in with like, the first two lines of the verse and the sounds about a long-distance relationship — but also just the idea of the inevitability of feeling like something is slipping through your fingers and there’s nothing you can do about it. And we wrote that song, and I was just a bit like, “Oh, this feels like a cornerstone sound of something that doesn’t feel derivative, that doesn’t feel like I’m just kind of painting by numbers.” I think that’s what really excites me.
Was there anything you took from playing Skye Riley in Smile 2 for your own album?
So I’ve been working on the album for so long that it was probably the opposite way around. I mean, Smile happened. It came about so quickly, and I think I kind of purposefully ran in the other direction in terms of creating that character, and going, “Let me put on a voice and sing in an American accent.” I also think it’s because the things that I poured into Skye Riley that I would take with me were things that I already had before — because it was just me — and the things that I left behind are things that I wouldn’t.
Let’s talk about the new single “Sweet Nausea.”
So we were in Norway, so I’ll just add a little bit of a gap about finding that producer. I just DM’d this guy with a Dropbox. Literally, he hit me back and was like, “These are sick. You wanna have a chat?” We got on FaceTime, chatted about all sorts of nonsense. Turns out he was five minutes down the road from me. So that’s Lido. So he’s Norwegian. A lot of this album I made in Norway — which, by the way, you need to get to Norway. He lives in a tiny town, and his mom is still the head teacher of the local primary school. I love his parents. They are like my favorite people. I recorded a lot of the vocals there, because he has a setup in a studio. I’ve recut this album like three times, because I wanted to get it right.
So this was me, Lido, and Daphne on this trip. I had this idea, and I’ve written a little nursery rhyme, and I write log lines of songs a lot. That’s such a, of course, she’s in the movies [thing] — but I do find it really helpful. So this was, like, the carousel of regret — you know, round and round we go. I don’t even know what it was, something sweet nausea. There’s something about, like, picking at that scab, and that feeling where it’s kind of this weird sensation. And I hate to be that person, but you know, when you’re like, “This song just came together in 15 minutes.” Yeah, this was one of those ones. And it did just come very quickly.
What are you listening to right now?
Night Tapes. On the plane, I was in my old-school bag. Obviously, Blood Orange’s new album, Essex Honey, which I’m on. Erika de Casier, Lifetime. That album, there’s one melody from that first song and I’m like, it just scratches an itch. It’s like Sade meets a little bit of electronic. My most played song this year is called “Promise” by DameDame*. ML Buch, which I love. I loved FKA Twigs’ album Eusexua. I’m an Ariana Grande fan. I’m an Arianator. That song “Supernatural,” I run to that s—t.
Have you ever met Ariana?
I’ve not met her, but we’ve communicated. I’m a big Wicked fan. I think she enjoyed Smile. One day we’ll have a conversation about it. I’m a big fan — I would probably fan girl really hard… Naomi Sharon. You can just put her on, I call it futuristic Sade. Any early 2000s, if you think of Madonna or those pop girls, Spice Girls, it all comes from Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis and Janet Jackson. Amaarae, her pitched-up s—t scratches an itch in my brain. She’s always in the pocket.
Are there plans for a tour?
Absolutely, I’m about it. I love performing.
We saw you perform at Lollapalooza. That was lit, you had a good crowd.
It was surprising, I was not expecting that. The most important thing to me is hitting the goals that I want to hit for myself as a performer. I have a very high standard for myself. So for me, it’s more about making sure vocally, this energy is how I want to perform. Whether there is one person there, whether there’s 10,000 people there, so regardless, I just want to be the best I can be. Obviously, that was just crazy.
I played the album. And then there was the nostalgia factor with “She’s So Gone.” And it’s great because I love that song… I wanted it to feel within the set, and wanted to sing it the way that I kind of do in my tone of voice, not like a 16-year-old. It was an amazing moment and very cool. But I am absolutely going to be out there on stage. I honestly love it, because there’s nothing more real than that exchange; it’s like theater. It’s just nothing better for an artist than to be connecting with people who are f—king with what you’re doing.
I performed in a room where there’s more people in my team than there is out in the crowd. I’ve performed once for these two lovely girls. But again, I was like, “If it’s two of you, we’re doing this together, babes. It’s me, you and her.” The authenticity of that is more important, and I don’t want to skip any steps, and build and get better and put on a show I feel really confident about.
What would you say the goal is for your album?
I am an artist in progress, and I want to remain curious, have fun. My aim is always I want to make things that I would want to interact with myself, that excite me. And then connect with people who are also connecting with it. And it’s like, the rest is not up to me. That’s not the exchange of art. I’ve been so meticulous with this album, and it’s been, just so much care and so much of oneself.
I think that’s also why I’ve not been releasing for a long time. I put out things decade ago, just kind of experimenting, exploring, but I knew the next time I do, I wanted to be really intentional about it. I just want to keep going and keep making, like, being creative. It’s not like, “This is my debut, and then that’s it forever.” I just want to go and continue growing and learning as an artist and trying to keep that exchange as pure as possible.
Did you want to be an actress or a music artist first?
Musician, because that’s where I kind of started. I was 15 or 16 and I started doing these singing audition. So I would randomly be taping myself singing and it landed me in a pop writing kind of place in Kent. And I kind of cut my teeth writing there, and they write pop in a really interesting way. [When I was younger,] I was just so excited about all these different ways of of me exploring my creativity that — you don’t really overthink it. I think I was sure, but I didn’t know how the hell I was going to get there. It wasn’t like, “I’m sure this is how I’m going to do it.” I’ve been making music this whole time, but when do I feel like it’s the right thing to put out into the world?
What are the similarities or differences in your approach to recording music or taking on an acting role?
If you’re on a set as an actor, the goal is always to get to a point of honesty and allow yourself to be vulnerable. And that’s kind of the same with music as well, because you’re trying to get to emotional honesty. You’re trying to get to something that feels potent.
However, they’re completely the opposite, in the sense that in a movie, you are a color in someone’s painting; they are using you how they want. In music, you are the painter — although you might have people coming in and you saying, “Do you mind just that thing you do really well. Could you just do that?” Because I’m not good at that bit. I feel very blessed to be able to make music with people I love, people that I think are amazing. It’s mine, and it also is me. And I think people have seen me in a lot of different contexts, but I’m always a color in someone’s painting, and this is mine.
What does Smile 2 represent for your career?
It’s my proudest [role], I think it’s so sick. I think it’s amazing. I love that movie. So proud of it, and it’s so lovely that people are still connecting and loving it. That’s vibes. Me, Parker Finn and that whole crew really did that.
Do they let you keep anything you wear in the movie, like the 1986 VMAs shirt or the hoodie?
Why didn’t I get that hoodie? I really like that hoodie. That big jacket that I hide in, I’ve got that and I wear that all the time. One time on the tube, oh my gosh, it was so funny. I had it on and some guy — this is the coolest s—t — he just had out his Notes app, and he just went like this, and it said, “Great disguise.” And just left me alone. It’s so good.
What does the red hair mean for this era?
I have red hair now; it just feels like this era for me. Yeah, I love it. This feels like me in this moment. So because it feels both weird — you know how I’ve been talking about the album, it’s both kind of intimate, but then it has this characterful kind of production, and it’s like a world-building. So it’s kind of between those two things. It’s almost like this thing that I call grounded fantasy, which is me, but it’s also like having fun and playing and exploring, as opposed to, like me and my naturalistic state, or me putting on a costume. It’s like all of these other playful things in the middle are me.
And this is, as I said, like — I am very much a girl in process. Sometimes I’ll just do this, and I’m like, “Yeah, I like this today.”
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This week: Rosalía releases one of the year’s (decade’s? century’s?) most ambitious pop albums, Kehlani keeps the classic R&B flowing, Katy Perry and Hilary Duff offer two very different new songs about their respective exes and more.
Rosalía, LUX
“It’s like an album she wrote to God — whatever each person feels God is to them,” Afo Verde, chairman/CEO of Sony Latin Iberia, said of Rosalía’s LUX in Billboard‘s cover story on the Spanish singer-songwriter this week. “This is an artist who said, ‘I want to walk down a path where few walk.’” Now that the album is out, it’s clear this wasn’t empty hype: LUX is staggering, drawing from countless different languages, genres, styles and eras for one of the most expansive and singular pop releases in recent memory. “Pop” doesn’t even necessarily feel big enough for the album — the songs here are more likely to resonate in your city’s opera house or symphony hall than on your local top 40 station — but it still feels accessible and personality-driven like the best pop music, Rosalía’s voice too mighty to ever crumble under the weight of her artistic ambitions.
Kehlani, “Out the Window”
It’s good times to be Kehlani: After a decade of cult stardom that saw her forever tapping on the door of the mainstream, the R&B singer-songwriter has enjoyed a long-overdue crossover breakthrough with her Billboard Hot 100 top 10 hit “Folded,” an irresistible R&B kiss-off. This week she follows that surprise smash up with another classic-feeling ballad — though this time, she’s the one doing the begging, as she admits “I’m to blame, I played n your face,” but nonetheless pleads of her lover to keep the faith in their relationship: “Don’t throw it out the window.” It feels like the right song at the right time for her, and should just continue her winning streak.
Katy Perry, “Bandaids”
Katy Perry’s first new song since splitting with her longtime partner, actor Orlando Bloom, is sure to be viewed through the lens of that relationship. And though parts of the explosive pop-rock single, it does sound like she’s not overly pleased about the way things ended: “It’s not what you did, it’s what you didn’t/ You were there, but you weren’t.” But on the climactic bridge, she accepts it all and offers grace: “If I had to do it all over again I would still do it all over again/ The love that we made was worth it in the end.” Fans of Perry’s “Never Really Over” will find a whole lot to love about this new one.
Hilary Duff, “Mature”
“She looks like all of your girls but blonder/ A little like me, just younger,” Hilary Duff sings on “Mature” — not lamenting her man’s new younger girl so much as singing to herself from the past, when she got into a regrettable age-gap relationship. Duff’s first single since signing to Atlantic is a searing indictment of said ex, over an irresistible early-’10s turbo-pop groove reminiscent of the finest moments from Carly Rae Jepsen’s debut LP Kiss — perhaps unsurprisingly, since CRJ’s then-collaborator/paramour Matthew Koma writes and produces on the track. It’s a hell of a start to Duff’s much-awaited pop comeback.
Danny Brown, Stardust
The always fascinating and shape-shifting Danny Brown returns this week with new album Stardust, his delving into the world of hyperpop. Leadling lights of the scene like Jane Remover, Frost Children and underscores — the latter of whom has its own dope new release today — help Brown achieve liftoff here, as the rapper sounds perfectly at home within his glitchier (and at times house-ier) new sonic environs. Whether the start of a full new chapter for the rapper or a one-off detour, Stardust reinforces the idea that, even newly sober, Brown remains one of the most exciting and least predictable artists in hip-hop.
Gorillaz feat. Idles, “The God of Lying”
The latest from Gorillaz’ upcoming concept album The Mountain features English post-punks Idles, with frontman Joe Talbot posing a series of rhetorical questions, most likely in the mirror to himself: “Do you beg that truth will set you free?/ Are you shackled by the keys?/ Well if I was you, I’d stay strapped in/ Cause all you got is me.” The self-laceration is done on Damon Albarn Time, though, as Idles’ usual anxious guitar rave-ups are slowed and stripped here to a skipping, reggae-ish crawl, as synths squeak in the background and Albarn offers support via his forever-distant, disembodied backing vocals.
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