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“This has been the biggest labor of love,” Pentatonix’s Kirstin Maldonado says of the group’s latest seasonal album, Christmas in the City. “We’re all just really proud of it.”
The project, which the quintet began planning in January, was inspired by the magic of the holidays in New York and features a bevy of original songs as well as a host of Christmas classics.
On the latest episode of the Billboard Pop Shop Podcast (listen below), Pentatonix’s Maldonado and Matt Sallee join the show to chat about their new album (which marked the act’s 11th top 10 on Billboard’s Top Holiday Albums chart), all things holiday music, and their current tour.
The concept of Christmas In the City was initially sparked by a holiday ornament that Pentatonix’s Scott Hoying spotted at a festive holiday market in New York, says Sallee. That led the group to put together the title track, and soon, the rest of the collection snowballed from there. (And, while the album’s genesis may be owed to the Big Apple, Sallee notes the group is “trying to bring joy” to “every city” with the album and the tour.)
“We really wanted to make this album feel like it was a classic Christmas album paying homage to the ‘40s and the ‘50s and it can live in those classic playlists,” says Sallee, “so that’s a big reason why we used different instrumentation [and] sonics.” Certainly the “classic” vibe is aided by how the album not only showcases Pentatonix’s soaring harmonies, but also boasts dozens of musicians playing live instruments.
Further, more than half of Christmas in the City consists of newly written tunes, with all five of Pentatonix’s members (Mitch Grassi, Hoying, Maldonado, Kevin Olusola and Sallee) writing material on the effort. There are also some familiar favorites present, including “Holly Jolly Christmas,” “Silver Bells” and a new take on “I’ve Got My Love to Keep Me Warm,” with the late, great Frank Sinatra (who died in 1998).
“They blessed us with his voice,” says Maldonado of the Frank Sinatra Estate, who let Pentatonix use a previously unreleased vocal take of Sinatra singing the Irving Berlin-penned standard. “This arrangement is perfectly what we wanted to achieve within this album too… I feel so proud of it. I love it so much.”
“I’ve Got My Love to Keep Me Warm” also serves as the album’s first radio-promoted single, and the track jumps 12-9 on Billboard’s Adult Contemporary airplay chart dated Dec. 6. It marks the eighth top 10 for Pentatonix and the 21st for Sinatra (and his first since 1980).
JoJo also joins Pentatonix on the album on one of the set’s new originals, “Snowing in Paris.” “She sounds so amazing” on the track, says Maldonado. “She’s so talented and so kind. We love her.” Sallee adds, “She’s so insanely talented and gifted as a vocalist. It’s one of those, like, whoa, speechless moments when you hear her singing on the track. It’s just so good.”
And it wouldn’t be Christmastime without a holiday tour from Pentatonix, as the group has mounted a seasonal trek yearly since 2017 (save for 2020, owed to the COVID-19 pandemic). This year’s tour, aptly titled the Christmas in the City Tour, launched on Nov. 8 and is slated to wrap on Dec. 22 in Fort Worth, Texas. The group will then mount a U.K. and European tour next year that is scheduled to start April 7 in Budapest and continue on through May 3 in Stockholm.
As Pentatonix has become a staple of the holiday touring season, Sallee says he can “recognize faces” of fans who have come to the show year after year. “We’re blessed to be able to be families’ traditions each year. … It’s just such a special, humbling gift that we’re something that could bring a family…together and listen to our music and come to a concert and just have a good time together.”
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Also on the podcast, we’ve got chart news on how there’s a brand-new No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 thanks to Stray Kids’ DO IT; how the Wicked: For Good soundtrack casts a spell on the charts; and how a legendary rock band returns to the Billboard 200 top 10 for the first time in over 10 years. Plus, hosts Katie and Keith chat about the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, how holiday music is starting to take over the top of the Billboard Hot 100, and much more.
The Billboard Pop Shop Podcast is your one-stop shop for all things pop on Billboard‘s weekly charts. You can always count on a lively discussion about the latest pop news, fun chart stats and stories, new music, and guest interviews with music stars and folks from the world of pop. Casual pop fans and chart junkies can hear Billboard‘s executive digital director, West Coast, Katie Atkinson and Billboard’s managing director, charts and data operations, Keith Caulfield every week on the podcast, which can be streamed on Billboard.com or downloaded in Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast provider. (Click here to listen to the previous edition of the show on Billboard.com.)
Trending on Billboard The Wicked: For Good film soundtrack debuts in the top 10 across seven Billboard charts (dated Dec. 6), including No. 1 on both the Soundtracks ranking and Vinyl Albums. Led by its stars Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, the album soars in with 122,000 equivalent album units earned in the United States […]
Trending on Billboard Need plans for Valentine’s Day? Look no further. Hilary Duff just announced a mini-residency in Las Vegas with dates happening all holiday weekend, with tickets going on sale soon. As revealed Tuesday (Dec. 2), the Lizzie McGuire alum will be taking the Voltaire stage at The Venetian in Sin City on Feb. […]
Trending on Billboard Elphaba’s story may be complete now that Wicked: For Good is in theaters, but Cynthia Erivo is still defying gravity. On Tuesday (Dec. 2), the Emmy, Grammy and Tony-winning powerhouse simultaneously earned her first platinum-certified album and single from the RIAA thanks to 2024’s blockbuster Wicked soundtrack. Billed to Erivo, Ariana Grande […]
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Wicked: For Good director Jon M. Chu has had enough of the criticism of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo‘s friendship throughout the press tour for both musical films.
At an American Cinematheque For Good screening and Q&A on Monday night (Dec. 1), Chu spoke out against the vitriol being thrown at his Wicked leading ladies for their openness in sharing their deep friendship with the world.
“For us to be at a time when you can have these two amazing women emerge from their shells to share love and friendship and the importance of that, unabashedly, no cynicism; to be able to share that vulnerability and wounds with the world, knowing people are going to come out with their knives, shame on people who put that down,” he says in a fan-filmed clip. “These girls are giving us everything; it is why people around the world are drawn to it. It’s why they love it, and they’re sharing a real friendship that happened on set that I got to be a part of, and we should honor that with everything that we have.”
Grande and Erivo, who both landed Oscar nominations for their acclaimed performances in 2024’s Wicked, frequently went viral on last year’s press tour due to their deeply emotional responses to questions and their physical comfort with one another. Notably, Billboard named the duo’s “holding space” moment, a viral interview clip in which Grande dramatically clutches Erivo’s elongated manicured nail, the No. 10 Greatest Pop Star Meme of All-Time. In addition to its dual Oscar wins, the first Wicked movie also became the highest-grossing musical film adaptation of all time, making over $750 million at the worldwide box office.
Wicked: For Good, which brings the Broadway musical’s second act to the silver screen, boasted a comparatively less aggressive press tour — but Grande and Erivo’s relationship quickly became the dominant talking point. After the press tour ended with a triple-whammy of Grande missing the Brazilian premiere, Erivo defending Grande from a red carpet rusher at the Singaporean premiere and Erivo losing her voice the night of the New York premiere (where Grande also contracted COVID-19), social media devolved into especially nasty attacks on both women’s bodies and appearances, as well as their overall intimacy. Over the holiday weekend (Nov. 29), Grande reposted a clip from a 2024 interview “as a loving reminder to all,” regarding the dangers of openly dissecting and criticizing people’s physical appearance.
Nonetheless, that online chatter didn’t stall Wicked: For Good at the box office. In its opening weekend, the film topped the worldwide box office, grossing $223 million and surpassing its predecessor to earn the highest opening weekend for a Broadway adaptation.
On the Billboard 200, the For Good soundtrack tied the No. 2 peak of its predecessor, with several songs landing on the Hot 100, including “For Good” (No. 43), “No Good Deed” (No. 56), “As Long As You’re Mine” (No. 91) and “The Girl in the Bubble” (No. 100). Furthermore, both Erivo and Grande remain formidable contenders in their respecitive categories at next March’s 98th Academy Awards.
Trending on Billboard Miley Cyrus has something beautiful to share with fans. After four years of dating, the pop star is now engaged to musician Maxx Morando, as revealed Tuesday (Dec. 2) following the couple’s red-carpet appearance at the Avatar: Fire and Ash premiere. Stepping out with her fiancé at the film’s screening in Los […]
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Chappell Roan, Mariah Carey, Post Malone, Leon Thomas, Charlie Puth and HUNTR/X, who gave us the global smash “Golden” from KPop Demon Hunters, are among 33 artists set to perform on Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest 2026 (NYRE). The roster is a mix of current hit artists and a few veteran acts, such as Rick Springfield, New Kids on the Block, 4 Non Blondes and Goo Goo Dolls.
This year’s show is set to run for eight hours – from Wednesday, Dec. 31 at 8:00 p.m. until the next morning at 4:00 a.m. ET on ABC, and the next day on Hulu. This is the 54th edition of the show, which launched in December 1972. It marks the longest telecast in the show’s history, including an additional 90 minutes of programming compared to last year, with more than 85 songs set to be performed.
This year’s broadcast will be led by Ryan Seacrest and co-host Rita Ora from New York’s Times Square. Chicago native Chance the Rapper will lead the show’s first-ever Central time zone countdown from Chicago. NFL legend Rob Gronkowski returns alongside performer Julianne Hough, who makes her NYRE co-hosting debut as they take over Las Vegas.
The Times Square headliner and special guests will be announced soon, as will details for the Puerto Rico celebration.
This marks the third consecutive year that Dick Clark Productions and iHeartMedia will broadcast Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest live across 150 iHeartRadio stations nationwide, including Z100 New York, KIIS-FM Los Angeles, KISS FM Chicago, Q102 Philly and THE NEW MIX 102.9 Dallas. The show will also be available to stream live on the iHeartRadio app.
ABC’s Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest has been the No. 1 New Year’s Eve special since 1977, when it surpassed Guy Lombardo’s long-running New Year’s Eve specials on CBS.
The Clark show, which was conceived as a younger, hipper alternative to the Lombardo program, debuted on NBC on New Year’s Eve 1972 as Three Dog Night’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve. That year’s special featured pre-recorded musical performances by Helen Reddy, Billy Preston and Three Dog Night (all of whom had No. 1 or No. 2 singles on the Billboard Hot 100 that year). Clark served as a reporter from Times Square for live coverage of the ball drop and the arrival of 1973.
The second special, New Year’s Rockin’ Eve ’74, also on NBC, was hosted by comedian George Carlin and featured pre-recorded musical performances by Preston, The Pointer Sisters, Linda Ronstadt and Tower of Power.
Beginning with the December 1974 edition, the program moved to ABC and Clark assumed hosting duties; billed as Chicago’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve 1975, the first ABC edition was headlined by Chicago, with guests The Beach Boys, The Doobie Brothers, Herbie Hancock and Olivia Newton-John.
Clark died in 2012 at age 82, but his name is still in the title of the show he created.
Last year, Carrie Underwood capped the night with a Times Square performance as the broadcast drew more than 29 million total viewers at midnight.
ABC’s Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest 2026 is produced by Dick Clark Productions, with Ryan Seacrest, Michael Dempsey and Barry Adelman serving as executive producers.
Here’s a full list of performers who have been announced so far for Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest 2026:
The All-American Rejects
AJR
BigXthaPlug
Chance the Rapper
Charlie Puth
Chappell Roan
Ciara
Demi Lovato
DJ Cassidy’s Pass the Mic Live! Starring Busta Rhymes, T.I. & Wyclef Jean
50 Cent
Filmore
4 Non Blondes
Goo Goo Dolls
Jess Glynne
Jessie Murph
Jordan Davis
KPop Demon Hunters: The Singing Voices of HUNTR/X – EJAE, Audrey Nuna and REI AMI
Leon Thomas
LE SSERAFIM
Lil Jon
Little Big Town
Madison Beer
Maren Morris, sponsored by Carnival Cruise Line
Mariah Carey
New Kids on the Block
OneRepublic
Pitbull
Post Malone
Rick Springfield
Russell Dickerson
6lack
Tucker Wetmore
Zara Larsson
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Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest 2026 is produced by Dick Clark Productions, which is owned by Penske Media Eldridge, a joint venture between Eldridge Industries and Billboard parent company Penske Media.
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WHAM!’s “Last Christmas,” Brenda Lee’s “Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree,” and more classic holiday hits re-enter the top 10 of the Hot 100. Billboard chart experts explain how they feel about the classics making a comeback and what that means for the top 10. They also dive into “The Fate of Ophelia” breaking Taylor Swift’s personal record, Olivia Dean’s phenomenon, and RIIZE stopping by the studio to share how they worked on their latest album, ‘FAME,’ their thoughts on ‘KPop Demon Hunters,’ and more!
RIIZE: Hi, Billboard. We are RIIZE! And you’re watching the Hot 100 Show.
Tetris Kelly: Happy holidays and welcome back to the Hot 100 Show. Our boys, Rise, are in the building today. Can’t wait to have them on set to talk about the new music. But, hey, Christmas is back in a big way, so let’s jump into the top 10. This is the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 for the week dated December 6th. “Opalite” falls down to No. 10, as Leon slips to nine. “Jingle Bell Rock” appears at No. 8. All right, there we have numbers 10 through eight, with a little surprising drop from Taylor Swift and a new incoming Christmas classic. How are we feeling about the top 10 so far?
Delisa Shannon: I love that it’s shaken up, y’all. I love to see it, personally. I see “Opalite” holding on real strong, which we knew. The fans love it, so, like, I’m really not surprised to see that one holding on. I saw Leon Thomas at Brooklyn Paramount last week.
Trevor Anderson: Oh, you were at the folk show? Was it the-
Delisa Shannon: For the folks, yeah.
Tetris Kelly: Nice, how was that?
Delisa Shannon: It was incredible. And it was so loud when “Mutt” was playing, so that’s exactly why “Mutt” is still on the top 10. Exactly why, but also, everyone was screaming every other song of Leon Thomas. So that was really impressive to me. You know, typically when you go to a show, when a song like this is on the charts, you see everyone pull out their phones for the one big song that everybody knows. That was not the case. That show was rocking, standing room only, like, elbow to elbow, shoulder to shoulder. So as we have discussed time and time again about Leon Thomas and his importance with R&B, I think getting to see it live was so, so, so incredibly cool.
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Ellie Goulding revealed her baby bump on the red carpet of the 2025 Fashion Awards in London on Monday (Dec. 1). The 38-year-old “Love Me Like You Do” singer showed off her baby bump at the event while wearing a leather jacket over a black crop top, which revealed her bare belly bump.
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Goulding had not commented on the news at press time, but People noted that the child will be her second — she has a four-year-old son, Arthur, with her estranged husband art dealer Caspar Jopling — and her first with new boyfriend actor Beau Minniear (Night at the Eagle Inn, Bad Haircut), who also did not appear to have commented on the pregnancy at press time. According to the magazine, the couple began dating in July of this year when Minniear shared a photo roll that included a snap of Goulding, seemingly naked, in bed; after four years of marriage, Goulding and Jopling announced their separation in Feb. 2024.
Goulding released her fifth studio album, Higher Than Heaven, in April 2023, featuring the singles “Let It Die,” “Easy Lover,” “By the End of the Night” and “Like a Saviour,” scoring the singer her fourth No. 1 LP in the U.K., tying her with Adele as the two British female artists with the most chart-topping albums in U.K. chart history. She debuted her fourth collaborative track with Calvin Harris, “Free,” during one of his residency sets at Ushuaïa in Ibiza in July 2024.
She returned last month with the personal, emotional ballad “Destiny,” which she wrote in a lengthy Instagram post felt like her, “finally taking control of my sexuality and surrendering to Destiny, feeling free in knowing that the prize belonged to me in some way, even if that prize was just accepting my fate with a wine and a cigarette.”
At the time, she added, “The song focuses on a superficial but intense chemistry with someone that served a purpose, for total sensual and surrendering from a type of suffering, and how powerful it can feel in that moment even if it’s not love. This was the first time perhaps that I felt a loving affinity for a person I wasn’t in love with, instead a sort of gratitude for their raw acceptance of my need for exploration and catharsis with their sex ‘I hit the lotto when I found you’ I love the old school romance of that concept. For the first time ever I didn’t need a person for validation or protection, and the person didn’t need me. But we just wanted each other. That felt like a potent shift in the way I loved myself as a whole.”
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Nelson burst onto the music scene in May 1990 when debut single “(Can’t Live Without Your) Love & Affection” charged onto the Billboard Hot 100, reaching the summit weeks later on the July 7-dated chart. The band — led by twins Matthew and Gunnar Nelson — saw its star continue to climb when its first studio album, After the Rain, arrived a month later, peaking at No. 17 on the Billboard 200 and reaching double-Platinum status by July 1998.
It was a quick transition from unknowns to widespread fame for the duo known for their long, platinum locks and notable family history in entertainment. (Their grandparents are performers Ozzie and Harriet Nelson; dad is late singer Ricky Nelson, known for Hot 100 hits such as “Travelin’ Man” and “Poor Little Fool”; sister Tracy Nelson is an actress; and their uncle is actor Mark Harmon.) But the duo’s popularity proved to be fleeting — sophomore album Because They Can arrived in 1995, but did not chart.
Now, 35 years after the immense success of their debut album, the Nelson twins are ready to tell their story in their new memoir, What Happened to Your Hair?, which arrives Dec. 16 via Permuted Press and Simon & Schuster.
In an exclusive excerpt shared with Billboard, Matthew details from his point of view a planned in-store appearance at Los Angeles’ Sherman Oaks Galleria, where the band expected few people. Instead, thousands showed up, resulting in a riot that led police to shut down the event. (Excerpted from What Happened to Your Hair? by Matthew and Gunnar Nelson © 2025 and reprinted by permission of Permuted Press.)
“The story about the pandemonium at the Sherman Oaks Galleria is important to us because it was our very first indication that our world had shifted overnight in an epic way, and that Nelson wasn’t just going to be successful — it was going to be a phenomenon,” Gunnar tells Billboard of including that moment and its aftermath in the new memoir. “Every aspiring musician dreams of that kind of fandom that they saw in movies like Hard Day’s Night while they’re paying their dues on their way up.
“It’s that sort of fabled payoff that keeps them going through all of the doubt, poverty and setbacks they’ll have to overcome as they put in their 10,000 hours. They keep visions of such things in their bag of power while working their way up in an endless parade of dive clubs, playing to scores of empty rooms,” he continues. :We were no different. Throughout all of those years of making our bones in the L.A. nightclubs from the time we were 12, we dreamed that one day, thousands and thousands of girls would be screaming our names in unison like a jet engine. Only in our case, it actually happened.”
“What blew our minds though was the fact that we were the exact same people we were just a week earlier … when we went to that very same mall to buy underwear for our trip to New York City to guest VJ on MTV. Just a few days earlier, we might as well have been invisible,” Gunnar marvels. “And now the LAPD was having to shut the mall down because the girls were starting to stampede. It was surreal. And it was FANTASTIC. Isn’t it amazing what a little TV exposure can do?”
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Gun grabbed the store’s crappy announcement microphone, and we both tried to calm down the audience. It worked for a second. We thanked them for being there, and between the screams we played them a little bit of our first single on the acoustic guitar held up to one microphone over the PA in the record store. Big mistake. When we were done, the entire place exploded. Every girl there started pushing forward toward the store’s entrance at that moment.
The guys in the band started to look scared. Gunnar was smiling, although looking in his eyes I saw a new look that I would see a lot for another year and a half and through a breakdown or three, and I had a small but foreboding feeling that deep down he was terrified too. I was amazed that there were so many people there to see us because of what they saw on television just that week. I’d remembered being at that very same mall two weeks earlier and being completely overlooked by everybody, including salespeople, when I went to buy socks and underwear. That’s when I was an unknown soldier of rock: unhailed and disposable. A few days later—and I’m a bona fide rock god and one-half of the most famous twin brothers in the world.
Overnight, the world wanted its piece of us and wanted it now. Somehow, I didn’t forget I was the exact same guy as I was two weeks ago. After what I’d been through in my life—what we’d been through, and the ups and downs I’d seen my pop go through—I refused to abandon my “remember thou art mortal” emotional compass…even with every chick in the Valley in front of me wanting to devour me. I thank God for that inner compass as it kept me balanced and (mostly) sane in the years to come, through our success and especially through its demise. The music business, as we lived it, was absolutely not for the faint of heart. It’ll kill you. Ask our dad, the late great Ricky Nelson. The greatest lesson from him I ever learned was instilled by personally witnessing his ups and downs in “the biz.” The hard truth that fame is not love. Pop’s life taught me that fame is a whore—she loves you and makes you feel like a stud until the moment you stop paying her price. Then she’s gone, as if she’d never met you. I watched my dad’s fame rise and fall many times before the business killed him in a plane crash 2,000 miles away from his family one horrible New Year’s Eve. Still, Gunnar and I chose to do the same thing our dad did. Are we insane? Yeah—probably. But the difference (we told ourselves) was we had each other to keep us alive and keep us real through it all. We had, in fact, sworn an oath after Pop’s accident we would never let happen to us what happened to him. The biz wouldn’t get us. Then we soldiered on.
In hindsight, I think in some ways I was more prepared emotionally to deal with instant fame than Gunnar was, at least initially. My emotional breakdown happened years later long after the dust had settled and hope had finally abandoned me. How we each handled superstardom as Nelson, from zeroes to heroes and back again, revealed and solidified our personalities and our symbiotic roles in each other’s journey. To outside spectators I was promoted as the “sensitive twin,” Gunnar the self-proclaimed “shameless one.” True duality. To the fans I was apparently candy-coated; Gunnar was bulletproof. In reality (and I think only really known between the two of us), the opposite was true when we initially became really famous and the lights went down and the cameras shut off. Unseen cracks in the emotional armor eventually became a real problem when the inevitable backlash from haters happened shortly thereafter. Gunnar could let things really get to him—much more than me—and I was truly concerned about him.
At first, life was a blur of activity, and we were unflappable. We were so amazingly busy when “Love and Affection” hit number one. For three months we couldn’t breathe, let alone worry about a backlash. I was always quicker to say “f–k ’em” and move on than Gun when we first caught the fame wave. Gunnar was more sensitive than anyone knew, save me. He wore the hero suit very well. He was unquestionably a champion. Gunnar goes all in, but an idiot A&R executive or a jealous hater could really mess him up. Riding that aforementioned wave with my brother, I saw that a rock star’s ego can be shaken from a mighty height by a single middle finger hovering above a sea of 10,000 raving fans. True story. You do get what you focus on. Don’t get me wrong. Gunnar has strength and courage and all that comes with it, but underneath it all I believe there is a little kid who needs an embrace and an “I love you” just a little more than my little kid does. Fame was a trigger. I’ve always felt he was broken inside by our mom when he was a baby. That woman really did a number on both of us (I’m sure you know that by now), but Gun was always more sensitive and things cut deeper. I fought for him when he hurt, and he fought for me in return.
That’s why God brought us in together. When it really comes down to it, we are there to back each other up. We need each other. We can count on each other. The man upstairs made sure we each had a spare.
That day, with thousands of girls screaming for us, I knew we were in for it. We were gonna need to protect each other more than ever, or we would be in deep trouble. Remember, there is a huge difference between fame and love.
I could see in Gunnar’s eyes in that moment at the Galleria that to him this was a huge wall of love. Yeah, wow, awesome. Bravo! Almost 75 percent of me felt the overwhelming rush too. But somehow inside I also knew it was just fame disguised as love. It was a beautiful lie. As happy as I was at that moment, I was a little bit irritated knowing our “instant” success was Pavlovian. An illusion. The remaining 25 percent of me thought that we were just the special-of-the-day meat in a corporate greed sandwich. That jaded inner postpunk/preteen cynical part of me that will never die thought that it was all completely media-driven horseshit. An illusion. But on the other side—the side that won the battle that day—was a chorus of inner voices screaming, “WHAT A RIDE! ENJOY IT! Why NOT? You’re only twenty-one so why not tear it up already! Fantasy NOW…reality LATER! Isn’t this everything you’ve struggled for, and then some? Re-fucking-lax, Nelson! This is your moment!”
It was admittedly addictive to feel that kind of energy being thrown my way because of the years of sacrifice and hard work we’d put in. So, I talked my inner punk off his high horse and let the moment sink in and basked in the sunshine of it all. And it was glorious. Matt and Gunnar were the conquering twin heroes of Dial MTV and the San Fernando Valley.
First, the Galleria. Next—THE WORLD!
It was euphoric. It was a dream. And like all dreams, you wake up. “The cops are here, and they’re shutting it down,” Geffen rep informed us. “They say if we don’t leave immediately, we will get arrested. They want to keep people from getting killed. They estimate there are now at least seven thousand people trying to see you guys right now. The crowd is getting unruly and refuses to leave.”
Time to go. Well, that was fun while lasted…every bit of one-half hour. And I was right—we were back at the house by noon ordering pizza.
Nelsonmania and its ensuing female tidal wave was launched that day at that mall. And the Sherman Oaks Galleria’s notorious Valley Girls were there first. That was the flashpoint and the true beginning of Nelson’s official establishment as a “chick band.” To put it bluntly—it’s a massive understatement to say we appreciate women. They were the mission, and mission accomplished! All those girls were nuts for us. The same kind of crazy we had seen with our father years earlier. I saw firsthand that women, especially beautiful women used to getting their way, will go to great lengths to get what they want. Without shame. I discovered that day that it was amazing how attractive having a number-one record and being on TV and in magazines make you to the opposite sex. Irresistible, in fact. Gunnar and I were now human catnip for a million kitty cats.
To prove my point: To cap off the day of the first mall riot at the Galleria, that very night we drove the band to the Sunset Strip for a celebration dinner at the Rainbow, a well-known hangout next to the Roxy. We had eaten and were waiting for our cars to be pulled up when I was approached by the reigning Penthouse Pet of the Year. She was spectacular in every way. And she wanted me. How do I know? She walked straight up to me in front of the entire band and made a proclamation.
“I’m taking you home right now, and I’m going to f–k you like you’ve never been f–ked before,” she said.
The band froze wide-eyed and slack-jawed. Now, there are a million reasons why I should have grabbed her by the hand and gotten into her Mercedes and experienced a night of erotic bliss. But before I could stop it, that cynical awkward inner punk that brought a guitar to high school to keep him company had an answer for her.
“You know, I went to school with girls like you who thought they could have anything they wanted that ignored me, and two weeks ago you would never have given me a second look,” I said. “So, I’ll have to say ‘no thank you.’” She froze in astonishment, blinked a few times, then briskly walked away hoping nobody saw the exchange. I admit blowing her off actually felt pretty damn good. The band ripped me up for that, but I couldn’t help it. I had to do it for all the other social rejects out there and to heal old Pali High wounds. That’s not to say there are some nights when I admittedly wonder, What if? Let’s just say I made up for shunning the Penthouse Pet of the Year in the years to come. And how. But I’ll save that for another chapter.
For the next two years, I was rarely in public alone with my twin brother. Our image was iconic and unmistakable. We looked like a pair of hot Swedish chicks. We caused riots almost everywhere we went. If we went out on days off on tour, we went solo. People would see us and say, literally, “Look at that loser trying to look like a Nelson twin!” and move on. But it was a harsh reality that I couldn’t really truly enjoy the ride with my brother or a riot ensued.
Part of the reason Gunnar unraveled emotionally during our eternal tour was the fact we couldn’t hang together. It was the first experience of not being able to have each other’s backs. The final mall riot was a solo act in late 1991. I was in Toms River, New Jersey, visiting my old friend and producer Jack Ponti while we were on a break from the tour. He had a twisted sense of humor that was a lot of fun. He even managed to talk me into a social experiment—walk inside the Ocean County Mall to see how long it took people to recognize me. We placed our bets. Jack brought his dad’s old-school stopwatch. We drove to the mall, and I bought a Mrs. Fields cookie while he timed me from a distance. Five minutes. It started with a single “Oh my GOD!” and built from there. Jack laughed hysterically from his corner. Ten minutes later, the cops arrived and politely asked us to leave as the growing crowd of over 500 was too much for them to handle. That’s when the fun of causing mall riots ended for me. I was really scared. For the first time I truly asked myself, What if this is the way it will always be for me? For us? If this kind of fame is just the beginning, what kind of a life is that for a person? What if it never ends?
Well, it does. I’m living proof that even if you are on the cover of People magazine (and I was) that the world does eventually move on. It doesn’t take long. As a mall riot veteran in 2025, I can honestly tell you that fame, as a whole, is fantastic. I highly recommend the experience. But my advice to those seeking fame or new to stardom: Never forget that fame is not love. That knowledge could save your life. And don’t forget anonymity has its benefits too. Like being able to catch a movie at the local mall on a day off with your twin brother without causing a riot. Or going to the Galleria to buy socks and underwear blissfully unnoticed.
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