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Olivia Rodrigo Praised as a ‘Shockingly Talented… Precious Baby Angel Muffin’ By St. Vincent at Variety Hitmakers Event

Grammy-winner Olivia Rodrigo was praised as one of the most important songwriters of her generation by St. Vincent at Friday night’s Variety Hitmakers ceremony, where she was presented with the Storyteller of the Year award.

“In order to be a good storyteller, one must—to quote Olivia herself — pay attention to things most people ignore. Olivia sees the cracks and contradictions in herself and others and makes the ineffable understandable and transformational for her listeners,” St. Vincent said. “Her honest songs about the impossible task of growing up have liberated so many young people fighting and fumbling their ways through the same experiences. But it’s not merely paying attention that matters to the craft of songwriting. It’s also how you observe and how you listen.”

Vincent said one of the things that makes Rodrigo’s songs so alluring to fans is that they consider them to be their personal rallying cries thanks to the “Vampire” singer’s openness and compassion. “Her authenticity — not an affect, not a brand — allows her listeners to step inside her songs as their complete selves: struggling, searching, celebrating, just living. Just being,” Vincent continued. “Olivia’s songs pull off the magic trick of sounding like all of us at once, but also uniquely just like her. I call that a sly generosity, which is a beautiful thing to witness and to hear, and it’s one of the reasons I’ve so enjoyed getting to know Olivia over the past few years.”

Searching for words to describe Rodrigo, 20, St. Vincent landed on calling her a “precious baby angel muffin… but if a precious baby angel muffin was tough as nails and cool as hell and f–in’ loved the Breeders. She is shockingly talented, whip smart, and to me, the most important combination, curious and kind. These attributes make her great and will make her a great storyteller for years to come. Olivia’s listening, she’s asking, she’s interrogating the cracks in herself and in humanity. But because of her empathy, what she brings to the surface in her songs are the small frailties and the slivers of joy — those threads that make up our every single day. She pays attention to the things most people ignore, and makes them not just seen, but makes them shine. So I’m happy to call her a friend.”

Clearly moved, Rodrigo thanked Vincent and said her tribute made her want to cry. “I think she’s the most talented, kindest, most wonderful person I’ve ever met and I’m so inspired by her constantly and I’m very lucky to call her a friend,” Rodrigo said of her inductor. The singer also talked about writing “Can’t Catch Me Now,” from The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, saying that “telling stores through songwriting has been my favorite thing to do for as long as I can remember. I write to figure out how I feel, to move through my emotions, and to commemorate and honor seasons of my life.”

She added that even though songwriting is one of her favorite things to do in the world, “I wouldn’t say it’s always been effortless for me by any means. Especially making my most recent album, I had so many voices in my head and I felt so much pressure to please everyone with the music I was making.”

Pogues Singer Shane MacGowan Cause of Death, Funeral Arrangements Revealed

Late Pogues singer Shane MacGowan will be laid to rest on Friday (Dec. 8) in Nenagh, County Tipperary in Ireland, not far from the family farm he grew up on. According to RTE, the funeral will be open to the public, allowing friends, fans and family to say farewell to the beloved vocalist/songwriter who died on Thursday at 65.

The “Fairytale of New York” starwho had battled a series of major health issues in recent years, died of pneumonia in a hospital, his wife, Victoria Mary Clarke, told the New York Times. MacGowan, who would have turned 66 on Christmas Day, had been battling viral encephalitis before his death.

Clarke told RTE that after months in the hospital, MacGowan was discharged on Nov. 22 and sent home to spend time with friends and family. “He was trying very hard to breathe,” Clarke said. “He wasn’t ready to give up. He wasn’t ready to stop fighting — but his body did it for him.” She said that a “constant stream of visitors” came to visit MacGowan over his final months, including U2’s Bono and The Edge, singer Imelda May, Irish playwright/filmmaker Jim Sheridan and Primal Scream singer Bobby Gillespie, among others.

Clarke also confirmed that MacGowan completed an album before his death and that it “sounded good… he took great delight in the music he made.”

According to RTE, the funeral will begin on Friday morning when the cortege will leave Nenagh and travel to Dublin, where the procession will move across the city to St. Mary of the Rosary church. The singer’s remains will then be returned to Tipperary and cremated, according to the Irish Independent, with this ashes to be scattered across the river Shannon, the longest river in Ireland, which MacGowan sang about on the song “The Broad Majestic Shannon” from the Pogues landmark 1987 album, If I Should Fall From Grace With God.

MacGowan will be returned to the river he wrote about so eloquently in the song featuring his patented sad-eyed naturalistic imagery. “So I walked as day was dawning/ Where small birds sang and leaves were falling/ Where we once watched the rowboats landing/ On the broad majestic Shannon,” he sang on the track.

Irish President Michael Higgins is scheduled to represent the nation at the funeral, which is expected to also be attended by Bono, the remaining members of the Pogues and other Irish luminaries; U2 are slated to play a residency show at Sphere in Las Vegas on Friday, so it’s unclear if Bono will appear in person at the funeral.

MacGowan’s passing was honored by a broad cross section of musicians, including Bruce Springsteen, Garbage, the Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, Nick Cave, Jason Isbell, and U2, who performed “A Rainy Day in Soho” at their Vegas residency over the weekend. In a rare public statement, fellow chronicler of whiskey-soaked, diamond-in-the-dirt characters Tom Waits penned a moving tribute along with his wife/co-songwriter Kathleen Brennan.

“Ah, the blessings of the cursed. Shane McGowan’s torrid and mighty voice is mud and roses punched out with swaggering stagger, ancient longing that is blasted all to hell. A Bard’s bard, may he cast his spell upon us all forevermore,” they wrote.

See some of the tributes below.

Kiss Announces ‘New Era’ With Digital Avatars Following Final Concert in New York

Kiss will live on as digital avatars following its final concert at Madison Square Garden in New York.

During the encore of their last show on Saturday (Dec. 2), the legendary rockers — co-founders founders Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons as well as guitarist Tommy Thayer and drummer Eric Singer — made a surprise announcement that they will continue on as digitized versions of themselves going forward.

“Kiss Army, your love, your power, has made us immortal!” vocalist/guitarist Stanley said in a video revealing the digital characters as the virtual band launched into a performance of “God Gave Rock and Roll to You.” “The new Kiss era stars now!”

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After the concert, part of the Kiss’ End of the Road farewell tour, the quartet shared a two-minute video on YouTube teasing their next chapter.

“The future is so exciting,” Simmons says amid behind-the-scenes snippets of the band wearing motion capture suits to develop their high-tech avatars. Stanley adds, “We can live on eternally.”

Kiss’ avatars were created by George Lucas’ Industrial Light & Magic, in partnership with Sweden’s Pophouse Entertainment Group, according to the Associated Press. The companies recently collaborated on the ABBA Voyage show in London, a virtual concert performed by the Swedish pop group.

“Kiss could have a concert in three cities in the same night across three different continents. That’s what you could do with this,” Pophouse CEO told the AP.

In a roundtable interview, Stanley noted that Kiss “deserves to live on because the band is bigger than we are,” adding, “It’s exciting for us to go the next step and see Kiss immortalized.”

Simmons pointed out that the forthcoming digital band will be able accomplish things the original members couldn’t dream of doing.

“We can be forever young and forever iconic by taking us to places we’ve never dreamed of before,” the bassist said. “The technology is going to make Paul jump higher than he’s ever done before.”

Watch Kiss’ “New Era” promo video below.



Noah Kahan Performs ‘Dial Drunk’ & ‘Stick Season’ in ‘SNL’ Debut: Watch

Noah Kahan made his Saturday Night Live debut on Dec. 2, performing songs from his latest album, Stick Season (We’ll All Be Here Forever).

The Vermont-born singer-songwriter, who snagged a best new artist nominee at next year’s Grammys, opened with his Post Malone collaboration “Dial Drunk” and closed with his breakthrough song “Stick Season,” which recently got the cover treatment from Olivia Rodrigo.

The pair of tracks — which currently sit at No. 25 and No. 31 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, respectively — appear on the deluxe version of Kahan’s third album, Stick Season. The expanded version of the 2022 set dropped over the summer and peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 albums chart.

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“It’s been an unbelievable year-and-a-half now … a whirlwind of attention and wonderful outpouring of love from fans,” Kahan told Billboard in September.

After appearing on the Emma Stone-hosted episode of SNL, Kahan called the experience “one of the greatest moments of my career.” “Had some fun with my buddies and sang for a few people last night,” he wrote on X. “@nbcsnl thank you for one of the greatest moments of my career.”

There will be two more SNL episodes this year: Dec. 9 with host Adam Driver and musical guest Olivia Rodrigo and Dec. 16 with host (and SNL alum) Kate McKinnon and musical guest Billie Eilish.

Watch Kahan’s SNL performances below. For those without cable, the broadcast streams on Peacock, which you can sign up for at the link here. Having a Peacock account also gives fans access to previous SNL episodes.


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U2 Remembers Pogues’ Shane MacGowan With Moving ‘A Rainy Day in Soho’ Cover

U2 is remembering fellow Irish musician Shane MacGowan.

The veteran U.K. Rock and Roll Hall of Famers paid tribute to the late Pogues singer with a moving rendition of the Celtic band’s “A Rainy Day in Soho” during their Las Vegas residency on Friday (Dec. 1) at the Venetian’s Sphere venue.

“Sing with us, for Shane McGowan,” Bono told fans at the show as U2 performed the somber acoustic cover.

During the song, Bono altered the lyrics to reflect the death of MacGowan, who passed away Thursday (Nov. 30) following a recent hospitalization. He was 65.

“McGowan’s song is never over, but we may never find out what it means,” he sang. “You’re the measure of my dreams.”

This isn’t the firs time Bono has performed “A Rainy Day in Soho.” The 63-year-old singer previously performed the 1986 Poguetry in Motion track alongside actor Johnny Depp during MacGowan’s 60th birthday party in Dublin in 2018. The bash was also attended by such legendary artists as Nick Cave and the late Sinéad O’Connor.

Earlier in the week, the Pogues confirmed the passing of their notoriously hard-living singer, whose yearning, howling vocals and gritty rose-from-concrete lyrics super-charged the Pogues’ meld of traditional Irish music and punk rock spirit on such beloved songs as “The Old Main Drag” and “A Pair of Brown Eyes.”

U2 was among numerous artists to honor MacGowan after his passing. “Shane MacGowan’s songs were perfect so he or we his fans didn’t have to be…,” Bono captioned an illustration on X of MacGowan and lyrics to to “A Rainy Day in Soho.”

See U2’s “A Rainy Day in Soho” tribute here.

Sublime Performing With Bradley Nowell’s Son Jakob — Will He Join the Band?

It’s been more than 27 years since Sublime performed its final show with Bradley Nowell, but recent moves by the late frontman’s family have paved the way for the band’s possible return with Nowell’s son Jakob Nowell as the famed Long Beach punk-ska-reggae trio’s next generation singer.

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Jakob Nowell — who was 11 months old when his father died in 1996 — has been performing and touring for more than a decade, and this year signed a record deal with Epitaph Records for his group Jakob’s Castle and made a surprise appearance with Stick Figure at Coachella. On Dec. 11, he will perform at a benefit concert for Bad Brains frontman H.R. at the Teragram Ballroom in Los Angeles alongside Sublime’s original members, bassist Eric Wilson and drummer Bud Gaugh, for the first time ever. The trio are not calling themselves Sublime for the benefit show, but Jakob’s manager Kevin Zinger with Regime Music Group and musician-turned-executive Joe Escalante have already been selected by the original band members, along with Bradley Nowell’s wife (and Jakob’s mom) Troy Dendekker Nowell, to manage the rights and intellectual property for Sublime.

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Zinger and Escalante have been hired to manage the “legacy assets, the licensing and all the business in Sublime going forward for Jake, Troy, Bud and Eric,” Escalante tells Billboard. “The guys plan to jam together in support of H.R. at the Teragram Ballroom on Dec. 11. Beyond that we’re not prepared to make any announcements.”

Zinger is a veteran music executive and documentary filmmaker whose clients include House of Pain, Tower of Power, Everlast and Steele Pulse. Escalante is bassist for the famed Orange County punk band The Vandals, as well as a music executive and Hollywood showrunner.

News of a relaunched Sublime has generated significant interest from festival talent buyers who have already begun submitting offers for festival bookings, Zinger tells Billboard. But for now, he says, the three men remain focused on rehearsing for the Dec. 11 show.

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“We’re patiently waiting and doing the right thing,” says Zinger. “If the vibe’s there, the vibe’s there.”

Wilson is also a member of Sublime with Rome, a popular touring outfit led by singer Rome Ramirez that plays songs from Sublime’s catalog as well as Ramirez’s originals. The name Sublime with Rome was created as legal a compromise between Ramirez, Wilson and Troy Dendekker Nowell in 2010 after Nowell sued to stop the men from touring under the name Sublime.

Further complicating matters for Sublime relaunch with Jakob Nowell is that Sublime With Rome have a New Zealand tour and a number of big festivals booked in 2024;, as does Jakob’s Castle, who’s opening for G Love & Special Sauce on a tour running through the end of March.

Tickets are still available for Positive Mental Attitude: A Benefit For HR of Bad Brains at the Teragram Ballroom on Dec. 11, priced at $30 apiece. There is also a GoFundMe set up to benefit H.R. here.

The Beatles Hit No. 1 on an Airplay Chart for the First Time in Over 50 Years

It’s been more than half a century, but The Beatles are back at No. 1 on a Billboard airplay chart. “Now and Then” rises 2-1 on the Adult Alternative Airplay tally dated Dec. 9.

It’s The Beatles’ first No. 1 on the survey, which began in 1996. The band previously peaked at No. 11 with “Free as a Bird” that year.

The last time the group notched a No. 1 on a Billboard radio chart was 1970, when “Let It Be” (the Fab Four’s sole other airplay leader) ruled Adult Contemporary for four weeks beginning that April.

Of course, The Beatles boast their share of chart-toppers elsewhere, including a record 20 No. 1s on the Billboard Hot 100. Their final ruler to date also came in 1970 with two-week leader “The Long and Winding Road”/“For You Blue” that June. They have also earned a record 19 No. 1s on the Billboard 200 albums chart and rank at No. 1 on Billboard’s Greatest of All Time Artists chart.

The Beatles break the record for the most time between a first appearance on Adult Alternative Airplay and a first No. 1, as “Free as a Bird” ranked on the inaugural chart, dated Jan. 20, 1996.

Concurrently, “Now and Then” jumps 29-25 on the all-rock-format, audience-based Rock & Alternative Airplay chart with 1.4 million audience impressions, up 5%, according to Luminate.

On the most recently published Hot Rock & Alternative Songs list (dated Dec. 2), “Now and Then” placed at No. 14, after reaching No. 2. In addition to its radio airplay, the song earned 2.4 million official streams and sold 18,000 downloads and physical singles combined in the U.S. Nov. 17-23.



“Now and Then” is billed as The Beatles’ final song. It was recorded as a demo in 1977 by John Lennon and finished at last by surviving Beatles Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr, among others, after multiple attempts via new technology to extract Lennon’s vocals from the original demo, along with guitar parts from George Harrison. It’s included on the reissues of the group’s 1962-1966 and 1967-1970 compilations, initially released in 1973 and re-released Nov. 10.

As previously reported, “Now and Then” debuted at No. 7 on the Nov. 18-dated multimetric Hot 100, becoming The Beatles’ 35th top 10 – extending their record for the most among groups. It also expanded their span of Hot 100 top 10s to 59 years, nine months and three weeks – the longest excluding holiday fare, dating to their first week in the top 10 with their iconic U.S. breakthrough single “I Want To Hold Your Hand” in 1964.

All Billboard charts dated Dec. 9 will update on Billboard.com on Tuesday, Dec. 5.

Rolling Stones Love it Live, Announce Deluxe Edition of ‘Hackney Diamonds’ Featuring N.Y. Club Performance

When you’re the greatest live rock band to ever do it, you clearly give the people what they want. So it’s no surprise that the Rolling Stones are releasing a live deluxe edition of their new Hackney Diamonds album.

The refreshed version will feature seven songs recorded live at the band’s surprise show at New York’s intimate Racket club on Oct. 19 as part of the launch for their 24th studio album. The brief set memorably featured such classics as “Shattered,” “Tumbling Dice” and “Jumping Jack Flash,” as well as the live debut of the soul blues burner “Sweet Sounds of Heaven,” complete with a cameo from the track’s guest, Lady Gaga.

The double-disc set — which will ship on Jan. 19 — will also spotlight the Hackney tracks “Angry,” “Whole Wide World” and “Bite My Head Off.” The group has also just released a lyric video for the latter song, which features additional vocals from Paul McCartney.

Speaking of live, the Stones are gearing up for a Hackney Diamonds U.S. stadium tour in 2024, which will kick off on April 28 with a show at NRG Stadium in Houston, TX and include a stop at the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival (May 2), as well as shows in Las Vegas, Seattle, two gigs at Metlife Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ and stops in Orlando, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Chicago, Vancouver and Los Angeles before winding up with a July 17 gig at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, CA.

Check out the announcement and the “Bite My Head Off” lyric video below.



Snoop Dogg, Olivia Rodrigo, Selena Gomez & More Donate One-Of-A-Kind Items For 2023 ASCAP Foundation Holiday Auction

The third annual Holiday Auction for the ASCAP Foundation is now open and this year’s items up for bid include a boatload of one-of-a-kind keepsakes from a variety of pop, rock, hip-hop and country stars.

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Topping the list of collectibles whose sales will help support music education for young people and the next generation of songwriters are several pair of custom Frankie Zombie-designed Nike Air Force Ones signed by Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre, a limited-edition Our Place x Selena Gomez cookware collection, a pair of Sony headphones signed by Olivia Rodrigo and an exclusive merch bundle from Reneé Rapp featuring hoodies, T-shirts and vinyl.

“We could not be more excited that the Holiday Auction is becoming an annual tradition for The ASCAP Foundation,” said ASCAP Foundation executive director Nicole George-Middleton in a statement. “It has been incredible to see the donations pour in from ASCAP’s top members as we work together to raise funds to support future music creators. It is truly a one-of-a-kind auction for music fans, and we thank our supporters from the bottom of our hearts for their generosity.”

Fans can also put in bids for a commemorative-edition of E.H. Taylor Jr. single barrel bourbon signed by Chris Stapleton, a Gibson guitar signed by country stars Kelsea Ballerini, Lainey Wilson, Brothers Osborne and more, a used and signed drum head from Blink-182 drummer Travis Barker, a Big Daddy Kane-signed copy of his Ain’t No Half Stepin’ LP and a Tenacious D-signed Music Relief 2005 poster that also features the signatures of Will Ferrell, Dave Grohl and Eddie Vedder. Other acts with items on the block include: Cigarettes After Sex, Papa Roach, Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Alan Jackson, Poo Bear, Martin Garrix, Carly Pearce and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

The auction is taking place online from Thursday (Nov. 30) through Dec. 14.

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How Slow Pulp Drew on Both Lucinda Williams and ‘The O.C.’ for Breakthrough Album ‘Yard’

The Album

Yard, out now on ANTI- Records.

The Origin

Guitarist-producer Henry Stoehr and drummer Teddy Matthews met as youngsters in a McDonald’s ball pit in their native Madison, Wis., and they’ve been playing music together almost as long. They formed a band with buddy and future Slow Pulp bassist Alex Leeds as preteens and kept making music as teens and, later, students at University of Wisconsin, Madison. That’s where they met singer-guitarist Emily Massey, who was in another band, but began writing with Stoehr for fun.

The creative relationship blossomed and Stoehr invited Massey to join the nascent Slow Pulp. Initially, Massey explains, she “was just kind of an auxiliary member,” helping with rhythm guitar and backing vocals. But while recording 2017’s EP2, Stoehr and Leeds asked Massey to sing lead on a couple of their songs. “They were like, ‘How about you sing this song as well?’ And then we started sprinkling in the songs that we had been writing together,” Massey, now 28, recalls. “It just kind of slowly transitioned into me kind of taking the frontperson role.”



The Sound

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“Lucinda Williams’ album Car Wheels On A Gravel Road, that’s my gold [standard], like, this is how I like music to sound, production-wise” says Stoehr, 29, who produced Slow Pulp’s debut full-length, 2020’s Moveys, and its follow-up, September’s Yard. Massey shares the affinity: She wrote some of Yard‘s songs at a cabin where Williams’ Grammy-nominated 2001 album Essence was one of the few CDs on hand. “She’s just an incredible songwriter,” says Massey, noting the “production cues that [Slow Pulp] took from that Americana world for some of the songs” on Yard.

Stoehr and Massey also gush about the soundtrack to seminal ’00s teen TV drama The O.C., explaining the impact the set of canonical alt-rock and indie-pop songs had on them as younger Millennials. “Overall, on [Yard], there’s a little more earnestness and exposed emotion. And I feel like that [O.C.] era of music was all about that.”

And when it comes to the tried-and-true “Artist A x Artist B = Artist C” equation, one could do worse than encapsulating Slow Pulp’s emotional and vibrant indie-rock than “Lucinda Williams x The O.C. soundtrack.” On Yard, the band’s upped the rootsy quotient – like on late-album standout “Broadview,” a gem laden with steel guitar, harmonica, and banjo that sounds like Slow Pulp exhumed and rerecorded a lost demo from Neil Young’s Harvest.

The Record

Like many young bands, Slow Pulp’s rise is forever linked to the pandemic. The quartet finished its debut, Moveys, in the early months of COVID; around that time, Massey says her own health issues and a serious car accident involving her parents were among the factors that forced the band to “take a breather for a second.”

Writing for Yard began in earnest in early 2022, and by February 2023 the band had submitted the record – and signed with eminent indie label ANTI-, currently home to an eclectic roster that includes Fleet Foxes, Mavis Staples, MJ Lenderman and Japandroids. “They were very down for just letting us take a lot of creative control, which is something that was really important to us,” Massey says.

As she did for Moveys, Massey tracked many of Yard‘s vocals in her musician father’s home studio – “It wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows; we definitely are good at arguing,” she says with a laugh – and Stoehr ornamented tracks the band recorded with “sound candy type of stuff” to make them pop. The technical prowess helps Slow Pulp’s sharper-than-ever songwriting, chock-full of huge hooks and vivid lyrics, shine.

“Songs like ‘Broadview’ and ‘Yard’ have a different flavor than some of the music that we’ve done before,” Massey says. “And ANTI-, those were some of their favorite songs, like from the jump. That felt cool to have a label be excited about new things and new sounds that are kind of taking a risk.”



The Breakthrough

When Slow Pulp released EP2, influential YouTuber thelazylazyme gave its closing track, “Preoccupied,” a boost by sharing it. “That was the turning point of, like, ‘Maybe we should look into taking this a little bit more seriously,’” says Massey, explaining how the recognition prompted Slow Pulp to relocate to Chicago.

In 2019, the band opened for Alex G on tour – and noticed a pronounced change in the audiences compared to other support slots it had played before. “That was the first tour we went on where the person we were opening for’s fans were pretty receptive,” Stoehr says. “People were liking it.”

And when touring opened back up following the pandemic, Slow Pulp shored up its indie-rock bona fides with coveted slots supporting Alvvays, Pixies and Death Cab For Cutie.

The Future

In early November, Slow Pulp took the stage – to Phantom Planet’s O.C. theme “California,” naturally – for a sold-out show at New York’s Bowery Ballroom, the third of three sold-out Manhattan club shows. The raucous Big Apple crowd has been the norm since Slow Pulp hit the road days after Yard’s release.

“One of our favorite shows that we played on this tour was in Minneapolis,” says Massey, recalling the band’s second stop this fall. “The album hadn’t even been out for a week, and the crowd sang every song. It was just like, ‘What?! How is this happening?’”

The band’s wrapping the year with a European tour – and is already booked for Spain’s Primavera Sound and the Netherlands’ Best Kept Secret in June 2024. Says Massey: “It feels like this big dream is coming true.”



The Piece of Studio Equipment They Cannot Live Without

Stoehr: “The AKG C414 [microphone]. The gold and black one.”
Massey: “My MacBook.”

The Artist They Believe Deserves More Attention

Massey: “Ratboys. They could be huge. The record they put out this year is really so, so cool.”
Stoehr: “They’re an amazing band. There’s this other small band from Madison called She’s Green that I think are really sick.”

The Advice Every Indie Artist Needs to Hear

Massey: “Have fun. That’s something that we like have to remind ourselves of sometimes. I’ve had a really hard time letting myself just fail and make things that are horrible. That’s OK! Make stuff that’s really bad. Make bad songs and it gets you to the good ones. Don’t be so hard on yourself.”

The Most Surprising Thing About the Music Industry So Far

Massey: [long pause] “People listen to our music.” [laughs]
Stoehr: “Yeah, probably that.”
Massey: “That’s pretty surprising, always.”

The Thing They Hope Fans Take Away From Their Album

Massey: “Letting yourself have a certain compassion for yourself. That’s the big takeaway. We all have moments of a lot of self-doubt; there are a lot of things that we’re so hard on ourselves for. And to be able to work towards finding the places where you feel you’re able to care for yourself, outside of all the things that are happening. A lot of this record is about gratitude and reflecting on relationships and things that get you to the place you are now.”