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Mariah Carey is hoping that the this time it’s for real. The singer celebrated her second nomination to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Thursday (Feb. 13), writing on Instagram that she was “so grateful” to be given a nod two years running; Carey has been eligible for induction into the HOF since 2016, but was not nominated until last year.
“It’s always an incredible honor to be recognized alongside so many legendary artists I admire. Thank you to the @rockhall and, of course, to my amazing fans— you are the heart of everything I do. This means so much! ❤️🎶,” Carey added alongside a vintage shot of herself and a second slide featuring the full list of this year’s other nominees.
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Carey is once again in good company among the 2025 roster of nominees, which also includes Bad Company, The Black Crowes, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Billy Idol, Joy Division/New Order, Cyndi Lauper, Maná, Oasis, Outkast, Phish, Soundgarden and The White Stripes.
Though she is the Christmas queen and a pop icon, Carey fell just short of the Rock Hall in 2024, when she was a first-time nominee alongside now Hall of Famers Cher, Jimmy Buffett, Mary J. Blige, Dave Matthews, Ozzy Osbourne, Peter Frampton, Dionne Warwick, Kool & the Gang, MC5, Foreigner and A Tribe Called Quest.
In the meantime, Carey will wrap her current run of The Celebration of Mimi residency shows at the Dolby Live at Park MGM with a pair of shows on Valentine’s Day (Feb. 14) and Saturday (Feb. 15).
The Class of 2025 will be revealed in late April with an announcement typically details which artists are inducted as performers and which names are entering the Rock Hall in the musical influence or musical excellence categories. The 2025 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony will take place in Los Angeles this fall.
Halsey made a return to The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon on Thursday (Feb. 13), opening up about their upcoming tour, recent engagement, and the personal struggles that shaped their latest album, The Great Impersonator.
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During the interview, the singer—who recently announced the For My Last Trick tour—reflected on their love for performing and the challenges that kept them off the road in recent years.
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“I love touring,” they told Fallon of her impending return to the stage. “It’s hard to get me home, to be honest.” It’s just part of your brain, you have to be out there performing.”
“I toured for, like, eight years straight,” Halsey said. “And then, you know, there was COVID, and then I got pregnant, and then I got sick, and I was home for a while, and I was just like, ‘Can I go back?’”
Fallon also congratulated Halsey on their engagement to actor Avan Jogia, which they revealed in casually via social media by subtly editing a headline about their relationship. When asked about the proposal, Halsey shared that Jogia orchestrated a surprise trip to Barcelona—after a layover in his native Canada—before popping the question on a boat.
“We were out in the water, and I was thinking, like, ‘I think I’m going to get proposed to this week.’ But I didn’t think it was going to happen at this moment ’cause we were both like sun-drunk and like, you know, it was that stage where you’re like in your bathing suit, your belly is out and you’re like eating food. It wasn’t a sexy thing.”
“And we were sitting next to each other and he was like, ‘Come down on the floor.’ And I was like, ‘Okay.’ So I got down on the floor of this boat and he pulled out the ring and he showed it to me.”
When Jogia pulled out the ring and asked, “What’s a little bit of marriage between friends?” Halsey responded, “Yeah, I’ll do a little bit of marriage with you. I would prefer to do a lot of it.”
The singer also reflected on their unexpected connection to Jogia’s past as a child star on Victorious.
“I have two little brothers, so I would come home every day after school, babysit, and the show was on,” Halsey recalled. “Sometimes my brothers would not be in the room and I would be watching the show, and they’d walk in and catch me and they’d be like, ‘You just think Beck is cute.’” They laughed before adding, “I did just think Beck was cute.”
Halsey’s new album, The Great Impersonator, marked their first No. 1 on Top Rock & Alternative Albums since the chart in 2022 became inclusive of releases that are alternative-leaning but not firmly within the rock genre. They revealed that much of the album was written during a difficult period after being diagnosed with lupus and chronic leukemia.
“I had a one-year-old baby at home, and I was like, ‘Whoa, this is a lot,’” they said. After stepping away to focus on their health, Halsey is now in a much better place. “I’m really, really doing so much better. I’m healthy now. Both conditions are, like, under control. And I’m just really excited to get back out and have fun again.”
That excitement extends to the For My Last Trick tour, which kicks off later this year. Fallon asked what fans can expect from the show, and Halsey didn’t hold back.
“I really like putting on a big show,” they said. “I think people are usually pretty surprised when they come to see me in concert, especially if they only know me for the songs on the radio. The show can be quite, like, aggressive. Like, I’m like a little demon,” they joked. “I get out there and have to exorcise some stuff.” The tour also leans into a magic theme, but Halsey sees themselves as more of “a magician’s assistant. You can cut me in half, and I get to wear the cute outfits.”
Before wrapping up the conversation, Fallon challenged Halsey to return with an actual magic trick next time. “Just because you said this to me now, I’m going to learn a magic trick so I can do it on the show,” they promised.
Yesterday, dates for her upcoming spring/summer 2025 Halsey: For My Last Trick tour were announced. The 32-city Live Nation-promoted outing in support of last year’s The Great Impersonator album is slated to kick off on May 10 at the Toyota Pavilion at Concord in Concord, CA and criss-cross the country for shows in Phoenix, Los Angeles, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Charlotte, Toronto, Chicago and St. Louis, before winding down on July 6 at the Yaamava’ Theater in Highland, CA.
They’ll have plenty of friends along as well, with Del Water Gap, The Warning, Evanescence, Alvvays, Hope Tala, Royel Otis, Sir Chloe, flowerlove, Magdalena Bay and Alemeda joining on select dates. On Thursday morning (Feb. 13), the singer released a playful, minute-long trailer for her first headlining tour in three years.
Fans can sign up for the artist presale now through Monday (Feb. 17) at 11:59 p.m. ET here, with an artist presale kicking off on Feb. 19 at 10 a.m. through 10 p.m. local that day. More presales will run throughout the week in the lead-up to the general on-sale beginning on Feb. 21 at 10 a.m. local time here.

Sabrina Carpenter‘s Short n’ Sweet era just got even sweeter. The 25-year-old pop star unveiled the deluxe edition of her Billboard 200 chart-topping album on Friday (Feb. 14) as the ultimate Valentine’s Day gift to her fans. Explore Explore See latest videos, charts and news See latest videos, charts and news She announced the expanded […]
It’s JISOO’s time to shine. The star, who recently celebrated her 30th birthday, unveiled her highly anticipated debut solo mini-album, AMORTAGE, fittingly on Valentine’s Day (Feb. 14). Explore Explore See latest videos, charts and news See latest videos, charts and news The four-song mini-album includes the tracks “Earthquake,” “Your Love,” “Tears” and “Hugs & Kisses.” […]

Selena Gomez is back to the pop star life, despite teasing that she might be done with music — and she’s bringing her superstar producer fiancé Benny Blanco along for the ride. Explore See latest videos, charts and news See latest videos, charts and news “I always trick you guys,” Gomez wrote on Instagram, alongside […]
After taking over Genesis frontman duties for the gone-solo Peter Gabriel in the mid-’70s, drummer-singer Phil Collins had gradually built up his popularity, his industry renown and his pop songwriting prowess over the course of a decade. He’d become a solo star after breaking off from his group in the early-’80s, but continued to gather momentum with the band as well, and also emerged as a go-to collaborator for much of the era’s pop and rock aristocracy. By 1985, it would all come together in one year that saw Collins absolutely flood the zone with hit singles, big collaborations, bigger performances, headline-capturing pop culture moments and even an acting turn on TV’s hottest primetime drama.
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On this Vintage Pop Stardom episode of the Greatest Pop Stars podcast, we look back at Collins’ singular 1985, and examine how an unassuming, plain-looking drummer became one of the most ubiquitous pop stars of the MTV generation. Host Andrew Unterberger is joined by Chris Molanphy of Slate and the Hit Parade podcast to talk all things Phil Collins, as Molanphy shares his memories of becoming a devout (if occasionally slightly abashed) Phil fan as a teen, and Unterberger explains how an unofficial New York-celebrated holiday — one coming up very soon on the calendar — expanded his own love for Phil as a young adult.
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We then dive all the way into the deep end on Collins’ 1985, which started with hits, peaked with hits and ended with even more hits — but in between, also included a gig on Miami Vice as Phil the Shill, appearances on both coasts’ Live Aid festivities (including with a quasi-reunited Led Zeppelin), and an Oscars snub so galling it still rankles the nice-guy pop star to this day. And of course, we do get into those hits, including the agony and the ecstasy of “Do They Know It’s Christmas,” the possibly purloined groove and confusing (in more ways than one) title of “Sussudio,” and the underappreciated knife-in-the-gut divorce rock of “Separate Lives.” We end with the unlikely question: Was Phil Collins actually the Greatest Pop Star of 1985?
Check it out above — along with a YouTube playlist of some of the most memorable moments of Phil’s 1985, all of which are discussed in the podcast — and subscribe to the Greatest Pop Stars podcast on Apple Music or Spotify (or wherever you get your podcasts) for weekly discussions every Thursday about all things related to pop stardom!
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Halsey announced the dates for her upcoming spring/summer 2025 Halsey: For My Last Trick tour. The 32-city Live Nation-promoted outing in support of last year’s The Great Impersonator album is slated to kick off on May 10 at the Toyota Pavilion at Concord in Concord, CA and criss-cross the country for shows in Phoenix, Los Angeles, Dallas, Nashville, Tampa, Charlotte, Toronto, Chicago and St. Louis, before winding down on July 6 at the Yaamava’ Theater in Highland, CA.
They’ll have plenty of friends along as well, with Del Water Gap, The Warning, Evanescence, Alvvays, Hope Tala, Royel Otis, Sir Chloe, flowerlove, Magdalena Bay and Alemeda joining on select dates. On Thursday morning (Feb. 13), the singer released a playful, minute-long trailer for her first headlining tour in three years.
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It opens with a blue-haired Halsey hopping out of a golf cart as a harried assistant comments on the singer’s Smurf-colored locks and they respond, “I always said I’d be buried in this wig and, figured I probably should be.” The frenzied walk-and-talk then finds them rejecting a selection of black suits and enthusiastically greeting her hair and make-up person before making the executive guest list decision that Joe Jonas is not among the JoBros who will make the cut.
“Joe cannot come honey,” they say while making nice with an adorable grade school choir singer, only to walk away and whisper, “lose the kid, it’s way too sad.” She then spots her photo shoot set-up — an open coffin surrounded by three gigantic bouquets of flowers — dubbing it “perfect! It’s exactly how I pictured it,” before taking a phone call informing her that the whole thing has been called off.
Fans can sign up for the artist presale now through Monday (Feb. 17) at 11:59 p.m. ET here, with an artist presale kicking off on Feb. 19 at 10 a.m. through 10 p.m. local that day. More presales will run throughout the week in the lead-up to the general on-sale beginning on Feb. 21 at 10 a.m. local time here.
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You may not always be able to sing them at work in full voice, but over the past half century Saturday Night Live has given us some of the most hilarious, surprisingly tuneful (and often NSFW) musical shorts and original comedy tunes in TV history.
From second season cast member Bill Murray’s smarmy Nick the Lounge Singer’s groovy original Star Wars theme song to Eddie Murphy’s dead-on impersonation of soul legend James Brown and Adam Sandler’s seasonal classic “Hanukkah Song” and howling Opera Man bits, the sketches work because — as former cast member Maya Rudolph said in one of the recent anniversary specials — “when you can really sing, that’s when you’re the funniest.”
Plus, when you really, really love the music you’re spoofing, it shows, as in the legendary “More Cowbell” sketch and, of course, Justin Timberlake and Andy Samberg’s ribbon-rung new jack surprise, “D–k in a Box.” Whether they’re parody songs, topical tunes or just left-field jams about crypto currency or airport sushi, the show has always found a way to balance earworm singability with LOL lyrics.
In the recent Questlove-directed Ladies & Gentleman… 50 Years of SNL Music primetime special, Rudolph — an accomplished vocalist herself, and daughter of legendary soul singer Minnie Riperton — explained that Murphy’s eerily spot-on version of Stevie Wonder was so perfectly funny, “not because he’s dressed as Stevie Wonder… it’s funny because he’s pulling off the musicality of Stevie Wonder.”
Parody songs and original musical bits have been a part of the show’s fabric since the Not-Ready-For-Primetime-Players debuted on Oct. 11, 1975 with a cast including future legends Chevy Chase, Laraine Newman, Dan Akroyd, John Belushi, Jane Curtin, Garrett Morris, Gilda Radner and others. But the volume, quality and virality of the show’s for-laughs songs have rocketed to new heights over the past 20 years thanks to a string of stone cold killer tunes from the Samberg-led writing/producing trio The Lonely Island.
Their roster of must-pass-around bits are among the modern era’s most beloved, including such chart-worthy ditties as “Lazy Sunday” — the first SNL digital short to blow up on a then-nascent YouTube — to “Motherlover,” “Jizz in My Pants,” “I’m on a Boat” and “I Just Had Sex.”
The trio’s golden ear for musical comedy gold has continued to keep SNL buzzing in our ears as recent casts have added in such modern marvels as “Murder Show,” “Yolo” and “This is Not a Feminist Song,” as well as former writer and frequent guest host John Mulaney’s bonkers off-Broadway-worthy musical extravaganzas. And if you missed A Complete Unknown star Timothée Chalamet’s 2020 ode to his favorite miniature mount, “Tiny Horse,” the first time — saddle up, it’s a whole ride.
Though the list of our favorites is way longer — and you won’t find any of Belushi’s iconic Blues Brothers bits here, because they featured covers of classic blues songs, not originals — here are our 50 favorite SNL original songs/musical shorts ever, as we prepare for the all-star prime-time SNL 50 special on NBC airing this Sunday (Feb. 16).
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Mandy Moore had a simple message for Amazon on Tuesday (Feb. 11): “Do better.” The singer/actress lashed out at the global giant in her Instagram Story after she said the company delivered a package to her in-laws’ house in Pasadena, which was totally destroyed by last month’s devastating wildfires.
“Do better, Amazon,” she wrote in the Story that has since timed out, alongside a photo of the charred home and an image of the package sitting amidst the destruction. “Can we not have better discretion than to leave a package at a residence that no longer exists? This is my mother and father in law’s home. Smh.”
According to TMZ, Amazon responded to Moore’s post, with a spokesperson saying, “We’ve reached out to Ms. Moore via Instagram to apologize for this and to ask for more information from her in-laws so we’re better able investigate what happened here.” The representative added, “For weeks, we’ve advised those who are delivering on our behalf in southern California to use discretion in areas that were impacted by wildfires – especially if it involves delivering to a damaged home – that clearly didn’t happen here.”
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Moore, who initially reported that her home was also partially destroyed by one of the half dozen fires that killed 29 and destroyed more than 16,00 homes and other structures, also posted an emotional chronicle of her own flight from the Santa Ana winds-fueled conflagrations. “We never got an evacuation notice. Sometimes in the quieter moments of processing the last month, I play the game of what would have happened if I didn’t have my phone next to me, playing my typical ‘piano for deep sleep’ mix as I nursed Lou before bed, so I could answer the call from my brother-in-law?” Moore wrote on Instagram on Tuesday along with an image of the damage caused by the fire.
“It was 6:45 p.m. and he told me he, his wife, and our niece were evacuating, grabbing my in-laws (his parents) and getting the heck out of Dodge and we should do the same,” Moore continued. “I calmly walked downstairs and relayed this to my husband and without skipping a beat, we promptly packed up the kids (in their pjs), our dog, and scrambled to find our 3 cats as the power went out. I’ll never forget Taylor trying to figure out how to manually open our two little garage doors (they’d just finished construction around Thanksgiving and we’d just started using them—) in the harrowing 60 mph winds, as the sky glowed a dark red and ash started to fall all around us.”
Moore described racing across town dodging fallen tress on the freeway on their way to the safety of a friend’s home and getting her three kids to bed before running to Target to buy a litter box and some water. She also chronicled obsessively refreshing the Watch Duty wildfire map all night as she watched the evacuation zone narrow in on the eight-block radius around her home.
“It took until 4 a.m. for it to turn red. All the while, tossing and turning with a stomach-churning anxiety I’ve never experienced before, both boys passed out between us in bed,” Moore wrote. “[Oldest child daughter] Lou slept on the floor in a travel crib, and the dog curled up protectively by the door.”
She said that they just found out this week that their house is still standing, but that because of the proximity to the fires around their home, everything inside of it was a “near total loss. Clothes, furniture, pretty much everything will have to be disposed of… maybe even the walls too. We won’t be there for a very long time as it and the neighborhood itself get sorted out and cleaned and the rebuilding starts. I say all of this because i’m struggling. Yes we are exceedingly lucky to technically still have the structure of a home. But also… do we still have a home? I think my definition is in flux. The physical space? No. It goes without saying that our sweet brood and our pets are ALL that matters and home is where we are together… but having a sanctuary and safe space to feel settled really goes a long way too.”
The singer described “stumbling” on the home in the early days of COVID, instinctively knowing it was where they wanted to raise their kids; she found out she was pregnant with youngest son Gus two weeks after they closed on the home. Moore said they painstakingly restored and remodeled the home to make it their own and were just weeks away from finally finishing the work when the fires hit.
“I’m not saying all of this because I’m asking you to feel more sorry for us than someone else. Like I said, I am grateful. We’re so lucky!,” Moore wrote of the loss of the home and its contents, as well as the destruction of Taylor’s home studio. “By the grace of god we found a place to stay in the meantime and the kids are happy and safe. We’ve even starting collecting the books and toys that they’ve lost. It’s not a competition of who lost what or more. Real human beings across this town, regardless of their jobs or socioeconomic status, lost the life they’d come to know and count on in an instant. My whole heart is with them. Every one of them. This place, our home and the town itself, was our dream and I hope in time it will feel like that again… just a slightly different one.”
Last month, Moore’s brother-in-law, Dawes drummer Griffin Goldsmith, revealed that Moore and her family were taking shelter with her friend Hilary Duff. He also noted that he’d convinced his whole family and some close friends to move to Altadena years ago, including the siblings’ parents, who lived around the corner from him. Both Griffin and the Goldsmith’s parents lost their homes, while Taylor and husband Dawes singer Taylor Goldsmith had to flee their home and former Dawes bassist Wylie Gelber and his wife and their first crew member and old friend Jake lost their homes as well.

When looking back on his husband Sir Elton John‘s storied career in the music industry, David Furnish points out that there is a lot to be proud of. Yet, when thinking about that legacy in connection to the future, Furnish settles on one aspect of John’s career that makes him proudest: the pair’s work with the Elton John AIDS Foundation.
Dedicated to ending the HIV/AIDS epidemic for good, the organization — which was founded by the singer in 1992 — makes headlines every year with their glitzy, star-studded Academy Awards Viewing Party. Over the course of 33 years, the annual benefit, held on Oscars night, has helped raise over $100 million for the organization’s fight against the virus.
“Things go in and out of fashion and change with the times,” Furnish explains. “But every year, to see that everybody keeps stepping up? That just blows our minds.”
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The 2025 iteration of the event promises to be just as much of a spectacle — along with being co-hosted by John, Furnish, and actors Jean Smart, Sheryl Lee Ralph, Neil Patrick Harris and David Burtka, the viewing party is also set to feature an exclusive performance from pop phenomenon Chappell Roan. (Tickets to the party are still available on the organization’s website.)
“We’re always passionate about bringing in great, new, rising talent where we can,” Furnish says of the “Pink Pony Club” singer, before pausing and correcting himself with a laugh. “Well, she’s already risen pretty quickly, and I’d say she’s arrived.”
Below, Furnish speaks with Billboard ahead of the annual fundraiser about his admiration for Roan, the evolution of the gala and why the fight against HIV & AIDS related stigma is far from over.
This year is the 33rd Oscars viewing party that Elton has thrown — in the time that you’ve been involved, how have you seen this party evolve into what it is today?
It’s been an extraordinarily gratifying and rewarding experience. I mean, the fact that we continue to host the premiere fundraising event on Oscar night, that we have that tentpole for our organization… not only does it give us a superb fundraising opportunity to raise much-needed funds, but it also is a tremendous profile opportunity to, one one of the biggest entertainment nights of the year, get the support that we do from the people that come to the party.
One of the most important things in the fight against HIV and AIDS is that we are not finished yet. We’ve seen tremendous progress and tremendous success with the medications, and a lot of people are under the impression that this disease is essentially cured. But consistency is the most important thing in this fight. We have an end in sight, we have our eye focused on the finish line, and we have all of the science and medication that we need to basically end AIDS for good. But we have to be consistent, we have to keep going.
I always say to Elton, “We always have tremendous attendance, we always have a great auction, you’d think after doing it for so many years it might kind of taper off.” But I kind of turn cartwheels as I come out the door every year, because I think, “Oh my god, this is as big or bigger than it’s ever been.” Every year, it continues to get such an extraordinary level of support from the sponsors, from the ticket buyers, from the auction donors, from the performers, from the people who help co-host.
Speaking of performers, you guys got an excellent one this year. You and Elton have been close with Chappell Roan over the last few months — what made you decide to bring her in as the performer this year?
Oh, loads of reasons! First and foremost, she is an unbelievably brilliant performer. We went to see her at the Brixton Academy in London — her command of the stage, her band, her way of delivering her songs, her connection with the audience, her voice, her performance, her visual, everything about her is just like, “Wow.”
She’s also had a fantastic year! She’s really risen so quickly, and has been received so enthusiastically, with great song after great song. I mean, look at that best new artist Grammy this year! But I’m sure that she’s had a lot of requests for her time, and she’s at that stage when you have to keep investing in yourself to grow — and the fact that she so identifies with our cause, and relates so much with our journey and our mission of making sure we put our arms around everybody and that no one gets left behind, is amazing.
It’s that magical combination of the most brilliant artist, at such an extraordinary moment in their career, who is also so connected with this issue. We are just counting our lucky stars. It’s so great that she was available, and so happy to do it, and so joyful about understanding what it really means and wanting to make the best contribution.
We’re at a cultural moment where the stigma-combatting work organizations like yours do is more vital than ever. Can you describe what the EJAF is doing to actively fight against anti-LGBTQ+ and AIDS-related stigma on a daily basis?
Yeah, we want to share the positive messaging that you live a full, happy, healthy life with HIV. When properly treated, you don’t pass the virus on to anyone else, it is nothing to be afraid of and it is nothing to be ashamed of. The programs we’re able to take the money [from this event] and invest in all go a very long way.
It’s about communication, education, breaking down stigma, outreach within key communities and key populations — making sure people have access to testing and know their HIV status, and then once they know their HIV status, having access to the right treatment to deal with the virus headfirst. If they don’t test positive, then it’s about being able to use the latest advancements in science to protect themselves from contracting HIV. If people test positive, then we make sure they have the appropriate counseling and support so that they can live positively and proudly with HIV.
It’s a disease that took hold and thrived in the shadows and corridors of shame. In the It’s a Sin TV series in Britain, Callum Howells’ character says, “I feel so dirty.” There was so much shame associated with it, and we’ve gone so far beyond that now, and we need to continue to reach out and find the key groups that are affected so we can make sure that none of that messaging continues to linger or stick around. We want to make people feel empowered and supported.
This is a celebration on top of a celebration, because Elton is nominated for best original song at this year’s ceremony alongside Brandi Carlile for “Never Too Late.” What does that mean to the two of you, to have Elton at this stage of his career still receiving these major nods?
We’re just so thrilled. There’s so many amazing things connected with nomination — it’s not just Elton, but also Brandi and Andrew Watt and Bernie Taupin, and they are like extended family for Elton and me. The fact that the song became the closing point for the documentary I directed with R.J. Cutler, and even the overall messaging of saying that it’s never too late to change your life and find hope, that there can always be a positive outcome and a happy ending if you work for it; the Oscar represents all of that, to us. Also, oh my god, it’s an Oscar nomination! It’s such an amazing honor, and Elton is incredibly proud.
He and Bernie got the Oscar [for The Lion King‘s “Can You Feel the Love Tonight?”] as the first major award they’d won as songwriters — they’d never won a Grammy at that point. This time around, for Brandi and Andrew to be a part of the process of creating the song, Elton is so excited for them, as well as for himself and Bernie. Yeah, I mean, we’re all just very thrilled.
And what an excellent prelude to Elton and Brandi’s album coming out later this year, too.
Yeah! It’s a wonderful album. Brandi started the process on this song before the album started, because I screened the documentary for her the summer before everybody went into the studio to start on the album. I knew Brandi was a huge fan and understood Elton’s history so well, so I wanted her to see the film. She was so profoundly moved by it, that she wrote this lyric before she went into the studio and started working on it. It’s been an amazing journey.