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In between being hit hard and soft — but mostly hard — by varying levels of spiciness on First We Feast’s latest Hot Ones Versus episode Tuesday (July 9), Billie Eilish and Finneas opened up about disagreements they had while making the former’s new album Hit Me Hard and Soft together.
“He’s a lot of times barefoot, a lot of the times in very filthy shoes,” the 22-year-old singer began, miming how her older brother would put his feet up on the sound board right in front of her. “My face is right there. And actually we filmed so much in making the album that almost all the footage is his feet and then me.”

That said, the 26-year-old producer revealed that another conflict during the album-recording process takes the cake. “I think the longest, biggest argument was during a period of transition in maybe both of our lives where we were just trying to be kind of honest,” he shared as his younger sister nodded in agreement. “To give [Billie] credit, I was very much high and mighty about, like, ‘You’re not being honest or authentic enough.’”

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“So I learned a lot from being too egocentric in that process,” Finneas added.

As the duo braved increasingly spicy vegan chicken wings — which caused them both to get progressively sweaty and tear up — Billie and Finneas also took turns answering questions about their childhood fears (Star Trek‘s Salt Monster and parents turning into pigs in Spirited Away, respectively) and their love for their Barbie soundtrack contribution “What Was I Made For?” At one point, the elder sibling revealed which star he never wants to produce for ever again — although the name was bleeped out — while the “Lunch” singer rated some of her old outfits but refused to rank her idols Tyler, the Creator, Lana Del Rey, Justin Bieber and Childish Gambino.

The pair have previously opened up about butting heads while making their third studio album together, telling Apple Music 1‘s Zane Lowe in May that they clashed over how vulnerable Billie was willing to be in their songwriting sessions. “I was like, ‘Subject-wise, I’m not being led into what you’re actually feeling, and I think that there are real guards up,’” Finneas recalled telling his sister at the time.

They also reached a boiling point when Finneas temporarily felt like he no longer wanted to make music. “It was very interesting because I saw myself in that,” Billie added to Lowe. “I was like, ‘I have felt that way and you have always been the thing that keeps the ship moving, and now you feel that way. What does that mean for us? And what are we going to do?”

Watch Billie and Finneas on Hot Ones Versus above.

Looks like Ariana Grande‘s Eternal Sunshine is going to shine a little longer. On the latest episode of the Shut Up Evan podcast posted Tuesday (July 9), the 31-year-old pop star confirmed that an extended version of her Billboard 200-topping seventh studio album is for sure on its way — but fans will have to be patient as they wait for its release.
When asked about the possibility of a deluxe version — something she first teased in June on Penn Badgley’s Podcrushed podcast — Grande told host Evan Ross Katz that it was “definitely” in the works. “I definitely thought this album was perfect as it was, and I still kind of feel that way,” she said. “With time, I’ve been inspired to write more songs and inclined to do this deluxe. I’m really tempted to put a creative button on this storytelling, and I have a lot of ideas.”

“It’s an idea that’s become something I can’t not do,” she continued before teasing, “The final song on it is one of my favorite songs I’ve ever written.”

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The downside, however, is that the Eternal Sunshine deluxe won’t be coming in the near future — Grande is still busy promoting the upcoming Wicked films, in which she stars alongside Cynthia Erivo, after all. “I don’t just want to slap the music onto what I already think is a perfect version of the album,” she explained. “I want to let it live in this current state a little while longer, take my time to execute my vision for this deluxe and make sure that it’s worth the wait and as special as I think it can be.”

“I’ll let it be a surprise, but I wouldn’t say any time super soon,” the Grammy winner added. “I’m also trying to navigate the timing of the Wicked of it all, because I really want to give my entire self to that when it’s time to shift gears. I’m working on it constantly, and I’ll have more information on timing soon.”

Grande had a similar answer when asked whether she’s planning to do live shows in support of Eternal Sunshine, another topic she previously spoke about on The Zach Sang Show. “I still want it too,” she reiterated to Katz. “It would be a really lovely idea to be able to trickle in some shows in between the two Wicked films. It’s for a multitude of reasons not going to be a tour in the way that I used to tour.”

“It would be a mini little sampling of shows, I think,” she added. “It’s something that my team and I are working on coming up with options for.”

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