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Pussy Riot to Receive the 2023 Woody Guthrie Prize

The Woody Guthrie Center announced on Thursday (March 23) that Pussy Riot will be honored with the 2023 Woody Guthrie Prize later this spring.

The ceremony is set to take place on May 6 as part of the Tulsa, Okla.-based center’s 10-year anniversary celebration. Pussy Riot members Masha Alyokhina and Nadya Tolokonnikova will accept the award from the late folk music legend’s daughter, Nora Guthrie, inside Tulsa’s Cain Ballroom before they and their bandmates perform their latest multimedia show, titled Riot Days, for the first time in the U.S.

“It feels fitting to be awarded in the spirit of Woody, I think he would love Pussy Riot’s anti-fascist message,” Tolokonnikova told Billboard after the news was announced.

“As artists who, like Woody Guthrie, have the courage of their convictions, there are no
contemporary artists more worthy of this recognition than Pussy Riot,” added Woody Guthrie Center director Cady Shaw in a separate statement. “They have paid a very personal price for speaking their
minds on the most serious issues of our time, yet they continue to fight for justice and freedom.”

According to a release, the Woody Guthrie Prize is “given annually to an artist who best exemplifies Woody Guthrie’s spirit and work by speaking for the less fortunate through music, film, literature, dance or other art forms and serving as a positive force for social change.” Over the last decade, the honor has also been bestowed upon the likes of Bruce Springsteen, Mavis Staples, John Mellencamp, Kris Kristofferson, Joan Baez, Norman Lear and more.

Earlier this month, Tolokonnikova also helped raise nearly $7 million for relief efforts in Ukraine by partnering with UkraineDAO on an NFT of the besieged country’s flag in the midst of its ongoing war with Russia.

Miley Cyrus’ ‘River’ Flows Onto Hot Dance/Electronic Songs Chart

Miley Cyrus’ ‘River’ launches at No. 2 on Billboard’s multi-metric Hot Dance/Electronic Songs chart (dated March 25). The track from her new album, Endless Summer Vacation, which she described as a “dancefloor banger” on Instagram, is Cyrus’ first on the chart as a lead act, her first top 10 and her second overall showing, after will.i.am’s “Fall Down,” on which she’s featured, hit No. 11 in 2013.

As previously reported, the LP launches at No. 3 on the Billboard 200, marking Cyrus’ 14th top 10.

The No. 2 debut for “River” is the highest for any track on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs since Elton John and Britney Spears soared in at No. 1 with “Hold Me Closer” last September. From the chart’s start in January 2013, only nine songs have launched at Nos. 1 or 2.

“River” begins with 13.7 million radio airplay audience impressions, 10.9 million official streams and 1,600 downloads sold in the United States (March 10-16), according to Luminate. Correspondingly, “River” rules the Dance/Electronic Streaming Songs chart, giving Cyrus her first leader in her first appearance.

The track also starts on Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales (No. 4, Cyrus’ second top 10, equaling the peak of “Fall Down”), the Billboard Global 200 (No. 16), Billboard Global Excl. U.S. (No. 20) and the Billboard Hot 100 (No. 32, becoming her 21st top 40 hit). Not officially being promoted as the new album’s radio follow-up to “Flowers,” which rebounds for a seventh week atop the Hot 100, “River” also debuts on Adult Pop Airplay (No. 26), Pop Airplay (No. 27) and Radio Songs (No. 48).

Additionally on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, Calvin Harris and Ellie Goulding debut their third top 10 collab, “Miracle” (No. 6). Previously, the DJ/producer and singer charted with “Outside” (Harris feat. Goulding; No. 2, Feb. 2015) and “I Need Your Love” (Harris feat. Goulding; No. 3, July 2013).

“Miracle” is Harris’ 22nd top 10, tying him with The Chainsmokers for the second-most among all acts (after Kygo’s 24). Goulding achieves her sixth top 10 and her highest-debuting, eclipsing the bow of “Outside” (No. 7, November 2014).

“Miracle” starts with 3.2 million streams and 1,000 sold, also good for No. 7 beginnings on both Dance/Electronic Streaming Songs and Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales.

Bizarrap and Shakira surge following their joint interview and performance on NBC’s The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon March 10. “Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53” improves on Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales (7-2; 2,100 sold, up 167%). It ranks at No. 3 on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, after eight weeks at its No. 2 high.

Shifting to the Dance/Mix Show Airplay chart, Snakehips, BIA and Lucky Daye slither 13-9 with “Solitude.” The first top 10 for each act, the track is drawing core-dance airplay on supporters including Music Choice’s Dance/EDM Channel, KMVQ-HD2 San Francisco and iHeartRadio’s Evolution.

Plus, ILLENIUM adds his seventh Dance/Mix Show Airplay top 10 and Nina Nesbitt notches her first with “Luv Me a Little” (16-10). (The chart measures radio airplay on a select group of full-time dance stations, along with plays during mix shows on around 70 top 40-formatted reporters.)

How U.K.’s FLO Rejuvenated Y2K R&B and Restored Our Hope in Girl Groups

From across the pond, Renée Downer of FLO, the buzzy, new U.K. R&B trio, says, “We’re still little fish in the big fish industry,” causing her groupmate Jorja Douglas to giggle at the metaphor. But for three “little fish,” Downer, Douglas and Stella Quaresma have made quite a massive splash over the last year they’ve started releasing music together as a group — which was years in the making.

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Quaresma was born in Kingston upon Thames in southwest London and moved to Mozambique as an infant before returning to London at age five. She and Downer, who was born and raised in North London, both attended the Sylvia Young Theatre School, a performing arts school that boasts all-star alumni including Amy Winehouse, Dua Lipa and Jesy Nelson and Leigh-Anne Pinnock of Little Mix, the British girl group that rose from X Factor favorites to one of the best-selling girl groups of all time – before Nelson announced her departure in 2020, and the remaining members announced Little Mix’s hiatus two years later.

Fans mourned the loss of yet another beloved U.K. girl group that came and left their mark — while behind the scenes, three girls in their late teens were just starting to find their flow… literally. Rob Harrison, the Island Records A&R and founder of independent record label Listen Generously who currently manages FLO, was on a mission to discover the next big girl group. When Downer arrived at UMG’s office to meet with Harrison, she ran into Douglas, whom she had discovered on social media after the then-14-year-old Douglas won the British singing competition series, Got What It Takes?, with a cover of Adele’s “When We Were Young.”

“The next step was to try different combinations of girls. So Jorja and Stella were together with two other girls for a day, and I was with two girls for a day,” Downer recalled. “We were just getting to know each other, singing together, seeing how we connected and it was not a vibe at all. But Jorja and Stella gravitated towards each other, and then the next combination was us three …. And the rest is history.”

Over the next three years, Douglas, Quaresma and Downer worked with British super-producer MNEK on harnessing the nostalgia of the noughties and the decade prior while still sounding fresh. On March 24, 2022, FLO released its debut single, “Cardboard Box,” a delectable kiss-off anthem that dusts off the “to the left, to the left” sentiments of Beyoncé’s 2006 smash “Irreplaceable” and repackages ’00’s R&B for today’s consumption. While FLO’s songs have since generated 162.1 million on-demand official streams globally, according to Luminate, “Cardboard Box” accounts for 61.5 million of those streams (through March 2).

“Cardboard Box” arrived ahead of their debut EP The Lead, which further cemented their position as the new classic R&B girls, because of how closely they’ve studied the game. FLO’s second single, “Immature,” implements a wailing baby sample that sounds straight out of Timbaland’s playbook (not to mention, the “Say you want my body, body” chorus line hints at yet another Bey track, her 2006 B’Day cut “Kitty Kat”). Meanwhile, the slinky, yet soulful promotional single “Not My Job” shuts down dudes with little-to-no game à la TLC’s “No Scrubs.”

But when it comes to FLO’s job, says Downer, “We wouldn’t [want] to have any other career.”

Billboard spoke with March’s R&B/Hip-Hop Rookie of the Month about how FLO knew they were the right fit, what it means to carry the legacy of girl groups they grew up, and whether they’ll be opening for Queen Bey’s Renaissance Tour.

Who did you grow up listening to?

Douglas: I grew up listening to a lot of late-‘90s R&B, early-2000s R&B — just loads of old-school R&B like Usher, Mariah Carey, Beyoncé, Whitney [Houston] … all of the greats. Those are my biggest influences.

Quaresma: Similar vibes.

Downer: Similar vibes – people like Ciara, Rihanna, those type of ladies.  

Stella and Renée, you attended Sylvia Young Theatre School together. What is it about that school that allowed you two, but also your famous predecessors, to succeed in the music industry?

Quaresma: I feel like it was the worth ethic you had to have. They just kind of drilled that into you – being professional, being places on time.

Downer: Yeah, they definitely did. They taught you about the industry, so that was nailed into us for years on how to conduct yourself and how to work with different people.

Jorja, you won the British singing competition show, Got What It Takes?, when you were just 14. Looking back at that moment, where did you believe your career was going to go?

Douglas: I don’t know. It was just a bit of fun for me. And then I won, which was just extra fun. That kind of helped me put myself out there a bit more. Following that, I knew being in a girl group was, like, the best thing to do. There was no girl group. So I saw an opportunity, and I took it. [Laughs.]

What is everyone’s special ingredient that they bring to the table? Outside of the music, what’s your favorite personality trait about one another?

Douglas, Downer and Quaresma [in unison]: Hmmmm.

Douglas: In terms of music, we just bounce off of each other. And because we all have those same influences, we all enjoy the same R&B melody, so we’re just pretty in sync with each other. And then personality-wise, we’re like the same, but in different fonts.

Downer and Quaresma: Yeah. Yeah.

How did you work with MNEK on crafting your signature sound?

Downer: The great thing about MNEK is he grew up around our influences, and when that type of music was a thing. He learned about it so early on, and he really crafted that and worked on it. We’re young girls who can learn so much from him. He honestly knows like everything. He’s one of those crazy-talented people. He took time to get to know us and know our influences, and we just connected on that vibe.

I saw you met Kelly Rowland while you were recording in an LA studio with MNEK. How memorable was that for all of you?

Douglas: With Kelly Rowland, I mean…

Quaresma: … I mean, it’s just like …

Douglas: Surreal.

Downer: Too stunned to speak.

Quaresma: It’s just crazy that they’re actually real people. And also, it’s nice because she’s lived a similar situation that we’re going through, and she’s still alive! She’s still here! [Laughs.]

Is there anyone else you’re dying to meet or collaborate with?

Downer: Victoria Monét. I’m really excited for when we get in the studio with her. We can learn a lot [about] songwriting as well.

What surprised you most about the success of “Cardboard Box?”

Quaresma: I feel like we knew it would do quite well. We pushed for that song to come out first. We knew to put our best foot forward. But it was a really amazing shock how well it did. It just worked!

I’ve read in some of your interviews that you convinced your label to make “Cardboard Box” your debut single, and you made a presentation about how involved you wanted to be in the rollout for your debut EP The Lead. What advice do you have for other artists, especially young Black female artists, who also want to advocate for themselves to their teams?  

Quaresma: No one knows your music and your craft better than you. Just remember that. Nobody can try and shape it to be something that’s not genuine. It’s just not going to be as good, so just trust that what you’re about is good enough.

You made history by becoming the first group to win the BRIT Awards’ Rising Star award, and you also won Radio 1’s BBC Sound of 2023. Both honors are decided by separate panels made up of music industry leaders. How does it feel that the U.K. music business is rooting for you so early in your career?

Douglas: We’re very, very grateful, because we just feel like we’re being put in a really good position. It makes us feel really empowered — like, the stage we’re in, we feel really in control of what we want to do and the direction we want to go in. And we feel like, because we’re being given these awards, they’re making us more … what’s the word, like when [what] we’re saying has actual weight to it now?

Quaresma: Credibility.

Douglas: Yeah, exactly!

How has the legacy of British girl groups impacted you three as the U.K.’s newest edition, and what does it mean for you three to be carrying the torch?

Downer: It means a lot to be carrying the torch, because girl groups are so powerful — and to have the people that we grew up watching recognize us and be like, ”You guys have got this. You can go where we’ve gone and further,” is the biggest accomplishment ever. It’s just so deep to us.

Stormzy tapped you for one of the “Hide & Seek” remixes from his latest album, This Is What I Mean. What did recording with a U.K. superstar like him mean for you three?

Downer: He just asked us if we wanted to do it. And we were like, “Yeah, let’s do it.” But we didn’t get in the studio with him. It was a bit different, because we’ve never been featured on somebody else’s track — so we really had to get into a different vibe and think how we can add to that song. It was a nice vibe to experiment with.  

Describe the process of prepping for your first North American tour, which starts this April. How did you know was the right time for you to embark on your first tour in the States?

Quaresma: Well, we got told this is what we’re doing. [Laughs.]

Douglas: Most of all, it made sense, because most of our fans are in America. And obviously, R&B is just so much more appreciated in America as well. So it’s like: Go where you’re wanted, don’t try and force it. Obviously, there’s still a love for R&B here, but it’s just something completely different in America. Majority of our fans on Twitter, they’re American. We would have been abused if we didn’t go. They would’ve cussed us out!

Speaking of tour, there have been some reports going around that you could be opening for Beyoncé’s Renaissance Tour. Can you confirm or deny at this time?

Quaresma: Honestly, I wish we knew.

Douglas: I think it might be Doechii.

Downer: Oh! Imagine if it’s Doechii! That would be amazing.

Douglas: [Beyoncé] knows who we are. But that was just a rumor.

What can you tell me your upcoming debut album, and when can fans expect it to come out?

Downer: I don’t think we can say yet…

Douglas: …because we don’t have the answer.

Downer: We’re still figuring it out.

Quaresma: Just more elevated, different. We’re just growing up, basically, so our music’s just growing with us.

Kelly Clarkson Rocks Out Her Way With Lenny Kravitz Cover: Watch

Kelly Clarkson just covered another artist’s hit song, but as per usual, she did it her way. On the Thursday (March 23) episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, the three-time Grammy winner and her band Y’all put their own special spin on “Are You Gonna Go My Way,” the 1993 smash that solidified Lenny Kravitz‘s place in music stardom.

The Thursday (March 23) performance came complete with all the hallmarks of Clarkson’s best Kellyoke performances, including flashing lights, epic solos and the “Stronger” singer’s own signature vocal power. She belted out one sky-high note after another throughout the song while her electric guitarist shredded sizzling riffs behind her.

“So tell me why we got to die/ And kill each other one by one/ We’ve got to hug and rub-a-dub/ We’ve got to dance and be in love,” Clarkson sang, her audience clapping along to the hardcore beat.
“Are you gonna go my way?/ And I got to, got to know/ Are you gonna go my way?”

Released in 1993 as the title track and lead single off Kravitz’s Are You Gonna Go My Way album, the rock anthem is one of the Hunger Games star’s best-known songs. It topped Billboard‘s Mainstream Rock Airplay chart the year it was released and picked up two Grammy nominations in 1994, earning nods for best rock song and best male rock performance. Meanwhile, the album reached No. 12 on the Billboard 200, at the time blowing away Kravitz’s previous chart peaks with Mama Said and Let Love Rule.

“It just did what it wanted to do,” the musician told Billboard in 2013, reflecting on the then 20-year-old record’s success. “It was an amazing time. I was touring the world and seeing the world for the first time that extensively, and my life was very, very free, very wild, a lot of craziness going on — a lot of emotions and a lot of feelings. But I had no idea that this record was going to catapult me into that next level, no idea at all. I was just really enjoying the creative process.”

Watch Kelly Clarkson rock out to Lenny Kravitz’s “Are You Gonna Go My Way” in the video above.

Darius Rucker, The Black Crowes, Wynonna & More Added as CMT Music Awards Performers

Darius Rucker will team up with The Black Crowes for a world premiere collaboration of the band’s 1991 hit “She Talks to Angels” during the CMT Music Awards on April 2, airing live from Moody Center in Austin, Texas.

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Rucker, who is nominated in the CMT performance of the year category the upcoming awards show (for his rendition of “Let Her Cry” from CMT Storytellers), has earned nine No. 1 singles on Billboard‘s Country Airplay chart, while The Black Crowes have earned six No. 1 singles on Billboard‘s Mainstream Rock chart.

They are among the latest round of performers for the CMT Music Awards, with newly-announced performers also including Jelly Roll, Tyler Hubbard, and a collaboration from Wynonna Judd with Ashley McBryde.

Hitmaker Jelly Roll, who reigned atop Billboard‘s Emerging Artists chart for 25 weeks and is set to release his forthcoming album, Whitsitt Chapel on June 2, will perform his single “Need a Favor.” He earns his first CMT Music Awards nominations this year, with nods for male video of the year, breakthrough male video of the year, and CMT digital-first performance of the year.

A decade after Hubbard made his CMT Music Awards debut as part of Florida Georgia Line (performing “Cruise” at the 2013 ceremony, collaboration with Nelly), Hubbard will make his first solo awards performance, offering “Dancin’ in the Country.”

Wynonna will return to the CMT Music Awards stage, following her memorable final performance of “Love Can Build a Bridge” with her mother and the Judds bandmate, the late Naomi Judd. That performance is nominated for CMT performance of the year at this year’s ceremony.

These six new performers join previously announced performers Blake Shelton, Carly Pearce, Carrie Underwood, Cody Johnson, Kane Brown + Katelyn Brown, Keith Urban, Kelsea Ballerini and Lainey Wilson. Meanwhile, newcomers Avery Anna, Chapel Hart, Jackson Dean, Lily Rose, Megan Moroney and Nate Smith will perform from the Ram Trucks Side Stage.

The CMT Music Awards will air on the CBS Television Network and will stream live and on demand on Paramont+.

‘New And Making Noise Podcast’ Episode 12: Big Latto

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Big Latto graces the studio for Episode 12 of New And Making Noise with hosts Incognito and DJ Misses. The Grammy-nominated artist discusses her next moves and her thoughts on the current state of Hip-Hop.

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The Atlanta-raised rapper describes what it was like to transition from the 16-year-old who won The Rap Game to the Billboard chart-topping success that she is today.

“It was [difficult], just because I had so many opinions and people in my ear and so many hands on my career, and I feel like I wasn’t really telling my story how I wanted to tell it,” she says. “So I had to get to a point where it was like… there is no right or wrong way to do this. I just gotta be me with it.”

Now 24, Latto is enjoying life fresh off the success of her multi-platinum breakthrough single ‘Big Energy’ and her last two albums Queen of da Souf and 777.

“I’m learning to live in the moment lately,” she says. “I feel like I’ve been rapping for so long, so it could start feeling like a routine sometimes… But I’m learning to live in the moment and appreciate and just take it all in.”

We can expect more freestyles on the way—Latto’s way of responding to critics who question her lyrical ability. “That’s a joke. We laughed at that for sure. Y’all gotta remember, I came in writing,” she says.

Latto is taking the momentum from ‘Big Energy’ and running with it. “I think after Big Energy, my horizon was just different,” she says. “I didn’t put myself in a box anymore. I learned to think bigger. I saw the bigger picture.”

From releasing new music to appearing on the big screen this year, Latto isn’t limiting herself. “I want to step into the business world,” she says. “Music is not going to last forever… So I’m getting ahead of that while I’m young.”

The artist also gives a nod to other women in the music industry who have supported her, including the late Gangsta Boo and Mariah Carey, who is featured on the ‘Big Energy’ remix with DJ Khaled.

Latto stans for her fellow women in Hip-Hop as well. “I love the inclusivity of everything right now. And I’m really a fan of the movement,” she says.

Latto also discusses her current style inspiration, her first tattoo, and what she would change about the music industry.

Lady London Signs With High Standardz & Def Jam Recordings

Def Jam continues to stockpile their roster with burgeoning talent. Today (March 23), the label announced that New York MC Lady London has signed to High Standardz / Def Jam Recordings. 

“There are artists who challenge you to disregard everything you know and just follow them into the future,” Def Jam chairman/CEO Tunji Balogun said in a statement. “Lady London is one of those artists. She’s a force on the microphone, a savvy visionary and just the kind of star we need right now. I’m honored and excited to welcome Lady London to the Def Jam family.”

Over the last two years, London has garnered acclaim for her lyrical prowess and innate storytelling abilities. Last year, she released “Lisa’s Story,” her reimagination of Foxy Brown‘s 1996 single “Get Me Home,” which helped her earn a slot as one of Billboard’s R&B / Hip-Hop Artists to Watch. Her red-hot streak continued when she unleashed her viral freestyle “Pop Ya Sh–” over Baby and Clipse‘s 2002 collaborative anthem “What Happened To That Boy.” “The journey has been a beautiful one,” London said regarding her signing. “Even the obstacles. I stayed true to myself. Did it my way. I’m happy to have a place to call home now.”

High Standardz founder/CEO Jeremy “J Dot” Jones added, “Since the beginning, High Standardz has been cultivating an environment where a certain caliber of artists can find a creative home for expression and growth. Lady London personifies everything that we’re about here. From her unique approach to crafting epic music, how she’s built a massive community of engaged and loyal fans, to the intelligence and elegance with which she carries herself. We are proud and excited to partner with her in bringing her artistic visions to the world.”

Check out London’s post about Def Jam’s newest addition below.

MAMAMOO Unveils the Massive Venues for Group’s First U.S. Tour

MAMAMOO is officially going on its first ever U.S. tour! The K-pop girl group first shared news of its stateside trek — titled the MY CON U.S. Tour — on March 15, announcing the locations that they will performing at. The quartet — which consists of members Solar, Moonbyul, Whee In and Hwa Sa — followed up the news on Thursday (March 23) by unveiling the venues they’ll visit this spring.

As previously announced, the girls will be making stops in New York, Baltimore, Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles and more, with the tour kicking off on May 16 at the UBS Arena located at New York’s Belmont Park. The K-pop stars will exclusively perform in arenas for the entire duration of the tour, before wrapping on June 4 at Los Angeles’ Kia Forum.

The MY CON tour — named after MAMAMOO’s latest EP, Mic Onreleased in November — marks the first time the quartet has performed in the United States since its 2019 appearance at the 2019 KCON Los Angeles festival. Tickets for the MY CON tour go on sale on at 10 a.m. local time on March 29 via Ticketmaster.

See the full U.S. tour dates, alongside the newly announced venues, below:

  • May 16 – UBS Arena at Belmont Park — New York, N.Y.
  • May 18 – CGF Bank Arena — Baltimore, Md.
  • May 20 – State Farm Arena — Atlanta, Ga.
  • May 22 – Bridgestone Arena — Nashville, Tenn.
  • May 24 – Dickies Arena — Fort Worth, Texas
  • May 27 – Wintrust Arena — Chicago, Ill.
  • May 31 – Desert Diamond Arena — Glendale, Ariz.
  • June 2 – Oakland Arena — Oakland, Calif.
  • June 4 – Kia Forum — Los Angeles, Calif.

Lizzo Preps for Jury Duty & Is Promptly Released: ‘I Wonder Why’

Lizzo may be “100% that b—h,” but she still has to do jury duty. The 34-year-old musician recently revealed in a pair of hilarious TikToks that she was summoned to perform her civic responsibilities in court, but was ultimately dismissed from serving as a juror before the case commenced.

In the first of her recent TikToks, the “Truth Hurts” singer documented her getting-ready process for jury duty, which she confessed she definitely wasn’t looking forward to. “I’m actually really stressed about it,” Lizzo said while doing her skincare routine. “I’ve just heard of people getting really gruesome cases. I have a really sensitive mind, I don’t like hearing or seeing that. I will cry.”

After picking out a dress for the day, she described her look as “giving law-abiding citizen.” She ended up changing her outfit, though, instead choosing to rep some of her own Yitty clothing in the courtroom.

“Just fulfilling my civil duty,” she captioned the video, which quickly filled up with amused comments.

“I would drop dead if I walked into jury duty and Lizzo was there,” wrote on fan, while another joked, “Your Honor she’s slaying.”

The process, however, ended up being for naught. The Grammy winner was quickly dismissed from the selection process. “I GOT RELEASED FROM JURY DUTY YALL I WONDER WHY THO,” she captioned a second video, which featured a photo of Lizzo posing in front of the jury assembly room.

As one commenter pointed out, the star probably got let off the hook simply because celebrities sometimes “get dismissed because they’ll be a ‘distraction’ to the trial.” For instance, Madonna was sent home from jury duty after just two hours for that reason, a court spokesperson said at the time.

See Lizzo’s TikToks about her brief stint as a potential juror below:

Chris Martin Says He’ll Have What Bruce Springsteen Is Having For Dinner: Nothing

Forget Ozempic, or the Hollywood 48-hour miracle diet. If you really want to get superstar fit, Coldplay singer Chris Martin suggests you do what he does: listen to The Boss. In his case that’s 73-year-old miracle of biology Bruce Springsteen, from whom Martin has learned a very important diet tip.

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“I actually don’t have dinner anymore,” Martin told Conan O’Brien on this week’s episode of the former late night host’s podcast, Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend when O’Brien asked what important lessons the singer has learned from meeting, and breaking bread, with so many of his rock idols. “I stop eating at 4 [p.m.] and I learned that from having lunch with Bruce Springsteen.”

O’Brien, in his best Springsteen grunt, joked, “what happened? You were having lunch with him and he said, ‘after this NO MORE! That’s it!’”

Martin explained that he got to share a mid-day meal at home with Bruce and wife/bandmate Patti Scialfa the day after Coldplay performed in Philadelphia earlier this year, which is where the rock icon known for his age-defying stamina during sometimes three-plus-hour concerts dropped a few pearls of diet wisdom on his young charge.

“I was on a really strict diet anyway,” Martin continued. “But I was like, ‘Bruce looks even more in shape than me’ and Patti said he’s only eating one meal a day. I was like, ‘Well, there we go. That’s my next challenge.’” They both had jokes about what that one meal is, with O’Brien suggesting it was an 8-foot-long sub sandwich and Martin matching his punchline by revealing that it’s an entire buffalo.

“And then you see it’s this giant vat of beef chili,” O’Brien chuckled. “The chef came out and said, ‘today we have flank of buffalo with a steroid sauce,’” Martin quipped.

Martin will keep burning those calories on Coldplay’s massive Music of the Spheres world tour, wrapping up the current South American leg with a run of shows at Estadio Nilton Santos Engenhao in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil on March 25, 26 and 28 before moving on to another European swing that will run from May 17 through July 19. A final North American string of dates in September wraps with an Oct. 1 gig at the Rose Bowl in Los Angeles.

Watch Martin’s interview with O’Brien below.