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MarÍa Becerra announced a break from social media on July 30 amid the European run of her world tour. Despite positioning herself at the forefront of Latin pop over the past year — including scoring her first two No. 1s on the Billboard Argentina Hot 100 and selling out River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires, Argentina, in record time — the 24-year-old simultaneously needed a hiatus from the scrutiny that she, and many of her peers, face online every day.
“I understand that social media is necessary for our careers,” she says. “But the limit is reached when they start taking away my joy.”
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Why did you decide to take a social media break?
It was doing me wrong to read so much hate — I was really affected by comments that only had the intention to harm [me]. The attack on women’s bodies who are part of the [music] scene is constant: If I’m too skinny, if I’ve had a boob job, if I train too much, how I do my makeup, how I dress… We struggle internally trying to please everyone without losing our own identity. Do you know how draining that is? Then, I said, “Enough. I’m tired, this hurts.” Instead of enjoying a tour that I dreamed so much about, I was suffering because of someone who writes from behind a screen.
What advice would you give to artists who feel similarly?
I’m currently in the process of learning to take care of myself. Going to therapy is beneficial for me; it helps me to think about what my limits are, what I want to share about my private life and what I want to keep for myself. I am a public figure, and those who listen to my music expect to know about me and see me beyond the shows. With my team, we seek a balance so that this ecosystem functions.
How could the entertainment industry better support artists?
I don’t know if [the problem] is the music industry. Everything I said before about what’s expected of female artists affects our self-esteem and puts an overexertion [on us] that ultimately generates a very large emotional imbalance. But the social media phenomenon has produced something where everyone needs to give their opinions. People express whatever they want, whenever they want, and while I greatly respect freedom of speech, this has turned into both a personal and social compulsion.
What can be done to create more open discussions on this topic in the industry?
The problem is not about talking; it’s what we do about it. How do we raise awareness of what is going on? What tools do people have to ask for help? I have the privilege of being able to pay for a psychologist, a health plan. But what about young people who are victims of cyberbullying and have no one to turn to? Who helps them? Talking about this in the media with responsibility could be a start, but I don’t have the formula. I’m just now learning to take care of myself and protect myself, and all of that is a long process.
This story appears in the Sept. 28, 2024, issue of Billboard.
Musician and actor Jussie Smollett, who previously starred on Empire, is back with a new project called The Lost Holliday. Opening Friday (Sept. 27) in select AMC Theatres nationwide, Smollett’s latest acting, writing, directorial and production pursuit finds him teaming with the film’s star Vivica A. Fox in a story about family dynamics involving a same-gender-loving couple […]
New Music Latin is a compilation of the best new Latin songs and albums recommended by Billboard Latin and Billboard Español editors. Check out this week’s picks below.
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Rauw Alejandro & Mr. NaisGai, “Pasaporte” (Sony Music Latin/Duars Entertainment)
On the heels of making his MTV debut, Rauw Alejandro delivers the third single off of his upcoming fifth studio album Cosa Nuestra. “Pasaporte” in collaboration with his longtime producer Mr. NaisGai is a groovy, funk-infused dance track that best captures the carefree and adventurous era that Rauw’s in. “If I don’t answer/ I’m doing my own thing, send me a text/ My life is a movie, everyday I post photos and videos,” he smoothly chants. Honoring the title, which means passport, the music video captures Rauw dancing in a private jet and hanging out with his celebrity friends David Guetta and The Martinez Brothers in Ibiza. “Pasaporte” follows his singles “Déjame Entrar” and “Touching the Sky,” all part of his forthcoming set out November 15. — JESSICA ROIZ
Rosalía feat. Ralphie Choo, “Omega” (Columbia Records)
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From its first steely guitar strums to Rosalía’s unmistakable vocal timbre with occasional flamenco-styled claps, “Omega,” featuring Ralphie Choo, captures vulnerability and strength. The texture, reminiscent of ‘70s power ballads, is both pristine and piercing. The song evokes nostalgia and delivers goosebumps, especially when the Spanish superstar intones “Sentimental” with raw emotion. “The more you move away/ Everything about you reminds me of you,” she sings poignantly. Released on her birthday, “Omega” is a celebration of completeness and true connection — captured in the line, “Tú eres mi omega,” signaling “you are my end-all.” — ISABELA RAYGOZA
Shakira, “Soltera” (Ace Entertainment/Sony Music Latin)
Shakira is unapologetically reveling in single life bliss, and isn’t any accepting any sort of negativity surrounding her newfound independence. Powered by a joyful tropical pop tune fused with afrobeats, “Soltera,” which translates to single in English, is really a celebration of life. “I have the right to misbehave. To have a good time. I’m on my own and now I can do what I want to do. It’s good to be single,” the Colombian hitmaker declares. Penned by Shakira and her go-to songwriters, Keityn and Edgar Barrera, the credits also list Bizarrap as a songwriter, making this song an almost certified hit. “Soltera” follows the theme of independence and self-liberation that Shakira showcased in her latest album, Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran, which scored a Latin Grammy album of the year nomination. — GRISELDA FLORES
Ryan Castro & Hamilton, “A Poca Luz” (AWOO Corp.)
In a first collaborative effort, Ryan Castro reeled in newcomer Hamilton for “A Poca Luz.” Produced by The Prodigiez, the track steers away from Castro’s signature Medellín perreo sound and navigates through the chill rhythms of Amapiano Afrobeat with suave house beats. The track introduces the blissful musica proposal by Hamilton — a Cartagena-based emerging act — to a wider scale. Lyrically, it’s a love letter: “I promised the moon that before the sun comes out, she was going to be mine […] my beautiful flower that drives me crazy,” chants Castro. The music video was filmed in El Pozón, a neighborhood on the outskirts of Cartagena that best captures the port city’s rich culture and vibrant people. — J.R.
Daddy Yankee, “Bailando en la Lluvia” (El Cartel Records)
Reggaeton legend Daddy Yankee sends a message of resilience and faith in his new single “Bailando en la Lluvia” (“Dancing in the Rain”). In the song, the reggaetón icon fuses his signature style with a vibrant tropical pop melody, transmitting an invitation to face adversity with optimism and trust in God. “I learned that it’s one day at a time/ One battles or gives up/ You cry in the storm, or you dance in the rain,” goes part of the lyrics. On his social media, the artist shared: “I hope this song fills you with encouragement, strength and invites you to dance in the rain, which means ‘changing your attitude’ in the middle of the storm.” — LUISA CALLE
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As September wraps up, the new music from today’s biggest stars continues to flow in.
To kick things off, Lady Gaga unveiled Harlequin, her new 13-track album themed after her character Harley Quinn from the upcoming film Joker: Folie à Deux. The album “celebrates a figure who thrives on danger, who lives for the undefinable, and who embraces the beautiful chaos of her own dreams,” according to a press release.
Meanwhile, The Weeknd teamed up with Playboi Carti for “Timeless,” the second official release ahead of The Weeknd’s Hurry Up Tomorrow album, which is the third and final installment of his After Hours/Dawn FM trilogy. The LP’s first single, “Dancing in the Flames” debuted at No. 14 on the Hot 100 this week on the chart dated Sept. 28.
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Stevie Nicks stood up to injustice with “The Lighthouse,” revealing that she “wrote this song a few months after Roe v. Wade was overturned” in June 2022. “It seemed like overnight, people were saying, ‘What can we, as a collective force, do about this…,’” she continued in her note. “For me, it was to write a song.”
Tommy Richman dropped his debut album Coyote, with songs including Elephant in the Room,” “Whitney,” “Temptations,” “Whisper in My Ear,” “Give It All,” “Tennessee” (with Trevor Spitta and Zachary Moon), “Thought You Were the One” and more.
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For the four devout Midwesterners that make up Minnesota indie pop-rock band Hippo Campus, touring through major cities like New York wasn’t always as comfortable as it is for them now more than 10 years into their careers — but they’ve always had their ways of coping.
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“I love coming here now,” 30-year-old guitarist Nathan Stocker tells Billboard backstage at the Bowery Ballroom in lower Manhattan, where he and his bandmates were hours away from performing an album-release show Tuesday (Sept. 24). “It used to scare me until I was well into the night, a couple beers deep, just chain smoking. And then it was like ‘Yeah, I love New York!’”
After years of heavy drinking on show nights, Stocker is sober now – and so is the rest of the band, for the most part. There’s still room for some balance; at one point in the show later that night, 29-year-old frontman Jake Luppen asks the crowd to send a shot of whisky to the stage, and when two arrive at the same time, he downs them both as 28-year-old bassist Zach Sutton shakes his head with gentle disapproval. But the quartet’s overall tamer approach to life on the road is just one of many things that’s different about the cult-favorite group in the age of their latest album, Flood, which dropped Sept. 20 via new label Psychic Hotline, having departed Grand Jury Records after their original record deal expired.
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Luppen and 29-year-old drummer Whistler Allen, for instance, both own homes back in their home state, and all four members are in committed relationships (Luppen got engaged over the summer). The group is far from the early 20-somethings who dropped Billboard 200-charting debut album Landmark in 2017 and slept on dirty van floors on tour, and even farther from the Saint Paul Conservatory for Performing Artists classmates who first started releasing music together in 2013. Now all pushing 30, Hippo Campus is finally coming out on the other side of years of growing pains, spawned by the natural push and pull of four people who’ve been best friends, bandmates and business partners for more than a decade.
Early in the writing sessions for Flood, they started going to therapy as a group to help parse the big questions – around the same time as which Stocker quit drinking – and a lot of that introspection bleeds into the 13 tracks on the finished product. On the thrashing ode to anxiety “Paranoid,” Luppen sings, “I wanna give this life all that I havе in me,” and on optimistic album closer “I Got Time,” he muses, “If this is as good as it gets I’ll be more than fine.”
But even as they were each evolving in their personal lives, they found that it was difficult to let go of the songs they were making in the two-year period between their last album, 2022’s LP3, and now. On a self-designated mission to make the best Hippo Campus record ever, they got stuck in an endless loop — writing more than 100 songs, recording them over and over, and arranging multiple versions of their fourth album just to scrap them soon afterward. They thought they might’ve cracked it last summer while on the road, until Luppen declared to the rest of the group that, again, it simply wasn’t good enough.
Realizing they couldn’t keep going as they had been, Hippo Campus left Minnesota to record yet another version of the album, this time at Sonic Ranch Studios in Tornillo, Tex. They set a 10-day deadline and, with the help of producers Caleb Wright and Brad Cook — and using everyone from Phoenix to Big Thief, Tom Petty and the Red Hot Chili Peppers as reference points — forced themselves to record their parts simultaneously as they would on stage. No listening back to takes. No repeated attempts. Only forward motion.
The result was a set of existential, self-conscious tracks with the same luminous energy and unpredictable melodies Hippo is known for, reinvigorated by the ease with which the analog instrumentation they adhered to in the studio translates to the stage. As much was evident at their New York show Tuesday night, where they played Flood front to back for a palpably excited audience that was already screaming along to the words of songs that had come out just four days prior. At one point, Luppen stops singing to cough — he recovered from COVID-19 last week, but not before having to cancel the band’s scheduled hometown release shows — but their passionate fans have no trouble taking over lead vocals in his place on anthemic single “Everything at Once.”
With touring serving as their main source of income, the group will stay on the road through February, playing theaters and auditoriums across North America and the U.K. along with one festival show in Bangkok. And their fans will follow. One 22-year-old listener, Abby, was camped outside the 9:00 p.m. Bowery performance since the early afternoon to get as close as possible to the stage for what would be her 52nd Hippo Campus show; the next day, she said she’d be traveling to Washington, D.C. to catch her 53rd.
“It’s so rad,” Luppen says of their fans’ devotion. “It always surprises me that anyone would be down to do that for us. That’s a big reason why we keep going, you know? Those people really believe in it, and that allows us to believe in it.”
Below, Billboard catches up with Stocker and Sutton backstage before their show at the Bowery — followed by Luppen and Allen on Zoom the next day – about growing up, ditching bad habits and the messy beauty of starting over:
What were your initial reactions to Jake saying you needed to scrap years of work and start over on Flood?
Sutton: He was the first to verbalize an emotion we were all feeling. We had to be honest about where we were in the process and where we wanted to go from there. But there was a lot of arguing about what to throw away.
Stocker: Jake’s expression of that concern is valid … once that’s brought to our attention, it’s our job to attend to it. But also, it’s like, “God dammit dude — can’t we just say goodbye to this thing and move on?”
Allen: I remember listening to it and feeling excited for the songs, but deep down, I was like, ‘It just needs to get mixed right or something.’ Which tends to be an excuse for something else that’s lacking.
What was missing?
Luppen: It just didn’t sound like we were having fun playing music. We went into the record wanting to make the best Hippo Campus record ever. It immediately put a lot of pressure on the thing. The stakes were so high that, personally, I was stressed out the entire time — second-guessing songs, second-guessing the performances.
Sutton: We were too zoomed in. We’d been chasing these 100 songs for a year in a half. We were like, “We have lost the f–king plot.”
What needed to change for Flood to finally come together?
Allen: We were just so separated most of the time at home. It was rare at a certain point that we were all in the same room. At Sonic Ranch, we were all there — we had to be there. We had to make ourselves experience it, whether we wanted to or not.
Luppen: Hippo Campus, when it’s at its best, is us playing music together in a room. To make the best Hippo Campus record is to capture the feeling that our live shows capture. The best way to do that was to track all together at the same time.
Allen: Doing what we did at Sonic Ranch is proof that [recording live] is a crucial thing for us, to make ourselves be in an isolated space and just get s–t done. Otherwise, we just get too relaxed or comfortable or lazy.
Will fans ever hear those other 100 songs?
Sutton: I f–king hope so. Those are some of my favorite songs.
Stocker: The large majority of them, probably not.
Sutton: Once a song is considered so heavily and inevitably shelved, it’s hard to go back to that shelf. It’s shouldered with all the disagreements that we had about the song.
Stocker: “You used to f–king hate this one, you want to release it now?” [Laughs.] All the songs we have in the back room collecting dust, those tear at us in a lot of different ways. Because they’re still ours.
What is Flood about for you personally?
Stocker: It’s a line of simple questioning: Am I good enough? Do I love you? Am I a phony?
Sutton: The motif seems like redefining where you are, especially as a group. This is our fourth record: Who are we now? Where do we want to go?
Luppen: Flood is like being naked in a lit room with a mirror held up to you, and being like, “Embrace this.” It’s a testament to all the things we need to be doing to take care of ourselves and live better. Now that we’re into our 30s, we wanted Flood to be the start of the music we make in those years, where you’re not driven by this youthful crazy energy.
How does touring look different for you as you get older?
Stocker: We usually cap it at three weeks now. It’s the longest we’ll go out without a break, just so we can maintain a level of sanity.
Allen: It’s chilled out so much. With [Nathan’s] new sobriety over the last couple of years, that was a big shift on the whole group. 2022 was the grand finale of what it used to be for us on the big LP3 tour. I just remember being at the end of that tour feeling f–king wiped. That was definitely a wakeup call.
Sutton: At our worst, we’d get up at noon, have a beer, then not eat anything until the show. You do what you think you’re supposed to do – “Oh, it’s a party!” — there was a culture that was set by all of us.
Luppen: It was like partying in a Midwestern way, where we’d just get wasted on the bus and watch Harry Potter.
Allen: Now everybody’s chilling, getting in their bus bunk by 11:00 p.m.
Why was sobriety important for the band?
Luppen: We were using alcohol, I think, to numb fatigue or nerves. I have the life that I’ve always dreamed of, and I want to be present and there for it, even if that means I’m riding the waves a little deeper on the ups and the downs. It’s better than just sleepwalking your way through life.
Stocker: With not drinking and having a newfound clarity within my personal life … I became obsessed with fulfilling this vision of myself that I had, which was, ‘If you are going to do this thing, you have to do it the best that you can.’ That meant showing up every day and writing a song if I could. I felt like I had to make up for lost time from being perpetually wasted for 10 years.
Other than sobriety, what did you need to discuss in band therapy?
Sutton: I couldn’t talk to anyone in the band without seeing all the f–king baggage. The biggest disagreement is defining what Hippo Campus is. We all have different answers about the music — mainly how the music’s made — and what the music’s saying.
Stocker: We needed to have conversations about how things had been and how not to go back there, because that was dark and harmful. It was really affirmative in, like, “Okay, yes, we’re still friends, we haven’t done anything to each other that’s irreparable damage or anything like that.” We can reestablish these healthy lines of communication so that, moving forward with this record as friends, individuals, human beings and business partners, we can do this in a healthy way.
Luppen: It was us paying to force ourselves to talk to each other. We all changed a lot over the pandemic in our personal lives, with our partners and everything. On top of that, we’ve been friends since we were 14. In a lot of ways, we were still communicating with each other like we were still in high school. Therapy allowed me to see everybody for where they’re at now.
Why did you change labels to Psychic Hotline when your deal with Grand Jury Records ended?
Luppen: We wanted to try something different this time around. We kind of shopped [Flood] around to a lot of different labels. We talked to majors, we talked to indies. Frankly, it was pretty disappointing. There were a lot of major labels that passed on it, which was confusing for us. We’ve spent 10 years working our asses off building a very organic, sustainable business.
Allen: We were told that they loved the record, but there’s just not enough “virality” in the band. It’s proof that they’re not interested in the actual success of a band, they’re just interested in the little spike in numbers that bring in royalties and syncs or whatever the f–k. Then as soon as that band doesn’t provide that same accidental moment, it’s all over.
Luppen: Psychic Hotline is run by our manager [Martin Anderson]. It was the option that allowed us the most freedom and cared the most about the project. It was clear they loved the music and they really understood us on a deep level. We were like, “Let’s just bet on ourselves like we’ve done our entire career and grassroots this motherf–ker.”
Stocker: Having the management side of things already taken care of and having them already be so close to us throughout that creative process, it made sense to bring them in on the label side as well.
What are your goals for the band? Are you actively trying to expand?
Sutton: It would be stupid to say, ‘Still not there yet.’ Like, this is it. To say I want anything more would be so ungrateful. I do always feel very competitive about being the best version of ourselves. I want to be in the same conversation as all the people that influenced me.
Allen: There are still some things we would like to do. We’ve never done a Tiny Desk, or some talk shows.
Stocker: We still have this idea that we want to be the biggest band in the world, but that is not something we’re interested in at the cost of our integrity and our friendships.
Luppen: It’s about preserving what we have at this point and not burning out. When I was younger, I was constantly trying to climb this hill that had no end. The biggest goal we could ever imagine was selling out Red Rocks [in Colorado] when we started the band, and we did that. Playing arenas … that doesn’t sound attractive to us. We’re happy with where we’re at. If more people come in, I’m always grateful for that.
I think there’s a record we have yet to make that really captures everything. We thought maybe it was going to be [Flood], and this one gets closer. But for me it’s about cracking a perfect Hippo record. Every Hippo record we’ve kind of had to learn to love.
But isn’t that kind of the same thought process that got you into the endless writing cycle with Flood?
Luppen: It’s a blessing and a curse. We’re always sort of hungry for something that’s just past what you’re capable of doing. But I do think that is a driving force of what makes Hippo rad. Maybe we’ll never make that record, or maybe we already made that record. Who the f–k knows?
You raise a good point, though. I’m gonna reflect on that.
NBA star Jaylen Brown has revealed his pick for the worst song of all-time, and Ice Spice should cover her ears. The Boston Celtics forward and A$AP Ferg sat down with Complex recently for an episode of GOAT Talk, where he begrudgingly disclosed that he’s not a fan of Ice Spice’s “Think U the Shit […]
On Sept. 28, 2002, Diamond Rio’s “Beautiful Mess” began a two-week run at No. 1 on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart, marking the group’s fourth leader.
The song was written by Sonny LeMaire (of Exile), Clay Mills and Shane Minor. It was released as the lead single from Diamond Rio’s album Completely, which also generated the act’s fifth and most recent No. 1 single, “I Believe.”
In April 1990, Diamond Rio (formerly known as The Grizzly River Boys, then The Tennessee River Boys), signed with Arista Records Nashville. The group then was comprised of lead vocalist Marty Roe, Gene Johnson, Jimmy Olander, Brian Prout, Dan Truman and Dana Williams.
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In June 1991, Diamond Rio’s debut Hot Country Songs entry, “Meet in the Middle,” hit No. 1 – making the act the first group to reign with a rookie single. The band has notched 19 career top 10s, including its other leaders “How Your Love Makes Me Feel” in 1997 and “One More Day” in 2001. The group has tallied 29 top 40 entries, through the No. 30 hit “God Only Cries” in 2006.
Said Oleander to Billboard in 2014 of Diamond Rio’s early ‘90s breakthrough, “I see these guys in these fantastic coiffed mullets and I remember the idealism that we had — ‘We’re going to do this. We’re going to reinvent that’ — and all that stuff. I’d do the same all over again.”
In 2022, Diamond Rio underwent its first lineup change in 33 years, as drummer Prout retired and was replaced by Micah Schweinsberg (formerly of gospel act The Crabb Family). Later that year, vocalist/mandolinist Johnson announced his departure from the group to focus his efforts in bluegrass.
Currently on the road, Diamond Rio makes its next stop in Wharton, Texas, on Sept. 29.
Just as Young Miko and her team, which includes Mariana López Crespo — her best friend and manager — and her longtime producer Mauro (López Crespo’s brother) were getting her career off the ground in 2019, they decided to launch 1K.
Described as a creative collective, 1K is something the Puerto Rican hitmaker is most proud of and hopes that it one day, it can become an empire. “Think Death Row Records,” she explained in her Billboard cover story.
Today, the collective is comprised of nearly 20 individuals who are all also part of Miko’s team. “I don’t want to eat alone at the table,” she said. “We’re very passionate about growing 1K by signing and investing in new artists and content creators. We’re all in it to learn, grow and help others.” Young Miko even has 1K tattooed on her hand, which she shows off proudly.
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The intention of the collective, the “Rookie of the Year” singer explained, is for everyone who is part of the group to build their own empires while still contributing to each other’s projects. “We are musicians, creatives, producers, executives, and we want to support other projects – in music or beyond – that excite us from other artists that have a future,” Miko said.
“I am super proud of every member of our collective,” Mauro, who started producing for Young Miko in 2020, added. “We’ve built this from the ground up and we all contribute ideas, even outside of our area. My role is to produce, but I go to the team and talk to them about visual effects, and they take it into account. Sometimes they accept my suggestions and sometimes not. We’re allowed to explore other areas of creativity and that’s important.”
Furthermore, the collective aims to create safe spaces for each team member and future collaborators who join the group. It’s something that, even onstage, Young Miko makes sure to remind her fans. “I decide who can enter this space that is so vulnerable,” she said during the last show of her XOXO U.S. Tour earlier in September. “Your heart and space are in your hands; nobody should have any type of control over you.”
Read Young Miko’s Billboard cover story here.
Young Miko will speak at the 2024 Billboard Latin Music Week, taking place Oct. 14-18 in Miami. For tickets and details, visit BillboardLatinMusicWeek.com.
With acting stints on Victorious and Insecure and a Grammy win for co-writing SZA’s monster R&B smash “Snooze” in his rearview, Leon Thomas is ready to level up. As he prepares for the full release of sophomore studio album, Mutt, on Friday (Sept. 28), the virtuosic multihyphenate artist declares, “It’s war outside.”
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As the first signee to Ty Dolla $ign’s EZMNY Records – an imprint launched in 2022 through his joint venture deal with Motown – Thomas gets a routinely up-close look at how one of 2010s R&B’s greatest movers and shakers transitioned from an ever-dependable supporting star to a lead artist with Billboard 200-topping albums and Billboard Hot 100-topping singles of his own. Those studies have resulted in a notable shift in headspace for Thomas; “It’s a blessing to have these talents. I worked hard on them, so I gotta treat them right, and these songs are definitely a representation of that,” he tells Billboard days after our Ice Spice-hosted R&B/Hip-Hop Power Players Week afterparty (Sept. 6).
Mutt finds Thomas fully stepping into his love for rock music – from the influence of his parents while growing up in Brooklyn to his recent obsession with Black Sabbath’s 1970 Paranoid LP. Featuring collaborations with Ty Dolla $ign, Masego, Wale, Baby Rose, Axlfolie and Freddie Gibbs, Mutt brings Thomas to the frontlines of another kind of war. A 21st-century specific battle of the ebb and flow of relationship arcs uniquely informed by dating apps and shifting generational perceptions of marriage and love. Back in June, Thomas told Billboard that he was “happy being single and wanted to document that.” Now, the R&B maestro offers up Mutt as a sort of musical anthropologic survey on the state of love and courtship in the 2020s.
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In an expansive conversation with Billboard, Leon Thomas breaks down the making of Mutt, muses about a return to acting and sings the praises of microdosing psychedelics.
How do you find growing up in Brooklyn has influenced your sound and approach to music?
It’s interesting! Growing up in Park Slope, the kids on my block [were] multicultural. We had the Spanish homie down the block and this white girl I used to skateboard with all the time [who] was putting me onto rock’n’roll and grunge and punk. Going to school in Cobble Hill, I was down the street from the Gowanus Projects, so I’m also tapping in with Dipset and the whole Uptown sound of hip-hop from that era. I [was] a student of the world growing up in New York. I got to hear everything.
Do you feel like any of those influences really shined on Mutt in particular?
For sure. My parents were part of the Black Rock Coalition out here. They was playing at rock clubs like CBGB, my mom used to have dyed hair and shit, my pops had the Jheri Curl and he was playing all the solos. Growing up, rock has been a big influence and there’s a couple of records [on Mutt] where I play with those themes. I like to blend genres on certain songs. I never like to go full-blown The Strokes or anything, because I don’t want to confuse my fan base. But just know it’s always there.
Is that something that weighs on your mind as you make each new project? Trying not to confuse your fan base while still staying true to your artistic development?
I don’t want to say this and sound like a d–k, but I really create selfishly. I’m chasing shit that feels good for me, man. The whole reason I was really excited to be an artist is because when I’m working with other artists, they’re just so stressed about TikTok and singles and shit. For me, when I’m an artist, it’s like a break from the boundaries and the borders. I can actually paint freely and do what the f—k I want to do. And I want to win. I’m lucky to have really talented friends who are down to do features and build with me, but I’m definitely just rocking with my taste buds, because I’m usually pretty early on shit.
Why was “Mutt” the right choice for both a title track and the lead single?
Well, they’re giving me a month to promote this f—king album, bro. [Laughs.] So I’m thinking about it like this: “That’s the title track, it’s got a little tempo, it’s funky as hell… a win is a win!” We can tell people about the album at the same time that we push the single. I’m just doing my best to fight through the clusterf—k that is the Internet right now and not get swept away by Ice Spice beefing with [Cleotrapa].
In so many ways, the online world feels even more overstimulating than it already is. How do you not lose your mind trying to make sure you and your art are heard and seen?
There’s all these echo chambers and like… I’m f—kin 31, bro. I’m not doing TikToks everyday! Making music means a lot to me, and my music deserves promotion. I’m doing my best to stay tapped in, and I’m just finding my own special way to let people know what I’m on and what I’m doing. There’s always things I can do better, but I think sit-downs like this are really important to help make it tangible and real for people.
We last spoke in Nashville earlier this summer and you were telling me about the process of creating Mutt. What were some of those experiences on your single journey that helped put this record together?
Materialism is a constant theme that flows in and out of this album. Living in L.A., it’s interesting, because everybody’s searching for the next best thing on both sides of the fences. The girls are doing that and the guys are doing that. Everybody’s really confused and there’s a reason that these podcast mics are well-used. [Laughs.] It’s f—king insane being single right now. It’s diabolical, bro. The way I see it, I’m gonna at least document my process. There’s been no other generation that had to deal with Tinder, Instagram, Snapchat, all this other shit – our grandfathers don’t know what the f—k that is! I can’t ask my dad for advice, this is a whole different pocket! I’m really showing my experience through modern technology, and how it influences the way we interact now when it comes to love.
A lot of these songs are about the ups and downs. These songs have been written a million times over from different perspectives and different generations, but I like how specific and detailed I’m getting with the lyrics on this one.
Was most of the album written in L.A.?
L.A. and Florence, Italy, which is random. I was out there working with Ty Dolla $ign and Ye on Vultures 1 for two and a half months. It was right after I put out my first album [2023’s Electric Dusk]. I was finally feeling free again to start thinking about new concepts. One of my favorite joints, I wrote walking through the Ritz Carlton Garden, which is like the Medici estate. Beautiful statues, everything is art, and I was super frustrated that day. That’s why the song’s broody as shit, but having those experiences really helped me round out the end of this album.
But most of [Mutt] was made in my house. I just bought a crib in Mid-City, and I set it up to be a creative zone for myself. I bought some paintings and art to just really capture my essence.
Do you find the different locations bring different things out of you in the songwriting process?
For sure. “Mutt,” in particular, I wrote on my living room floor – shoutout to Polkadot and Silom, those two companies sponsored me randomly. I was microdosing a little bit, and it was an interesting study [about] how it connects the neural pathways in your brain if you go on one day, off two days. I was doing that while I was writing a lot of like tail-end of this album. “Mutt” was inspired by my dog fighting with my cat, and him looking all sad after he got told off by my cat. I saw the similarities between us two and how we have good intentions, but we don’t always do the right thing.
How do you balance having those conversations about us as men not always upholding our best intentions without making it feel like you’re glorifying those choices?
That’s the whole thing. If you really listen to the verses, I’m talking about being vulnerable and actually wanting to love: “You can break my heart if you want to.” I’m super down, but you might have to train his dog because it’s been a while. I feel like toxic R&B isn’t new or special right now, but I think it’s important to really highlight the nuances of what we’re going through. There’s a reason a lot of people aren’t married at 25 or 24 right now. There’s a lot of options and that creates turbulence.
It’s not about being good or bad, it’s about being a person. This whole thing was an internal journey of really figuring it out. We all have that yin and yang, so it’s important to talk about that and and hold myself accountable in ways that I could have done better and talk about the things that some of the girls who were dealing with me could have done better.
“Answer Your Phone” is a knockout ballad. Talk to me about cutting that vocal.
That one was written by Diane Warren. She’s done some huge records, and that’s probably the only song I didn’t have a hand in writing. I was just trying to show off for a legend, man.
She sat me down in the studio at the piano and played me the song by heart like we was in the f—king ‘60s. It was such a moment. I locked in with Freaky Rob and he came through on guitar, drums and bass and we kind of Quincy Jones’d that shit out till it felt really good. To see a legend like [Warren] be amazed and happy and excited and watching her inner child come out while she was listening to it for the first time was amazing. I’m a huge fan of hers. I’m a student of the game, I know she’s written like 20 No. 1s or something!
What’s your favorite Diane Warren song?
“Have You Ever” by Brandy.
On “Dancing With Demons,” you sample some dialogue from Miyazaki’s Howl’s Moving Castle. Why did that feel like the right texture to add to the song?
I set up like a three-week session at my house. I set up lights all over my crib; I was really living life in [pajamas] with a lot of UberEats. I had some psychedelics going on, but I can’t watch live action films when I’m microdosing. So, I watched anime and that film was on. I found some similarities to what I was writing about at the time and it just made sense to me. [Film composer Joe Hisaishi] is really amazing, and I just liked how cinematic that track came together. It was really a spiritual moment. I’m glad it all flowed and people are talking about it because it’s one of my favorites.
Do you find that you get inspiration from movies a lot?
Hell yeah. Coming from the world of acting, sometimes I miss it, man. I miss the process of losing yourself in the character. A lot of my free time is just me watching really good old-school films. I’m into a lot of film noir. I also like tapping into the genres that I hadn’t gotten into as much when I was younger. Film is the thing that I need. I need a movie on when I’m cooking, it just helps my brain a little bit when I’m searching for something.
Do you want to return to acting in the future?
Yeah, but I don’t like the “pick me, massa!” moment [of the audition process]. It’s insane. Being around Issa Rae on Insecure and seeing her power as a Black woman, that’s what I want. Donald Glover, too, I’m a huge fan of him. I really look forward to having a moment where I come up with a TV show or a movie that encompasses my crazy brain.
The cast of characters on Muttt and Electric Dusk are pretty similar. Why was keeping a consistent set of collaborators important to you?
The way my label set this up, I had to do two albums in one cycle. I’m really like to work with my friends, bro. I like vibe out. I like it to feel organic and natural. After the first album, a lot of people are like “Alright! Let’s call in Metro Boomin and all these n—as we do not know who do not came about us and will charge $40,000 for a track.” [Laughs]. I was vibing with my homies and people I had a real relationship with. Throughout the album, I got really close with Freaky Rob and D. Phelps. There’s a reason that Ty’s back, I’m always with him because I’m signed to him. It definitely made a lot of sense to do another record for this album.
Were there any moments where you felt a little bit of anxiety knowing that this is your first project since “Snooze?”
Nah, that ain’t got shit to do with me. It does, but it doesn’t, you know? SZA worked really hard to get there. Before she put out [Ctrl], I was working with her a little bit with my boy Childish Major. I see the similarities between like her being super f—king tight and people not really knowing yet. This game is very political and it’s also about having real fans and that’s why I’m building an actual fan base that understands me and that wants to rock with me and buy the vinyls and the merch and the rest of it.
I’m just being patient with myself, and not putting unbelievable amounts of pressure on what I do, just because I did hit records with other people. It took a while for me to start doing that in writing and production as well. I’m definitely not afraid of building something that’s sturdy instead of having a crazy record that blows out of nowhere with no real fan base to follow it.
I loved the chemistry you and Masego cultivated on “Lucid Dreams.” How did that collaboration come together?
My boy, Jesse Boykins, he’s one of the original hype beast cool kids. I remember when I was in high school, I used to see him and Theophilius London and all the cool kids in in New York running around, taking pictures and just being fly as s—t. When he came to LA, I was one of the first people he kicked it with. He’s really tight with Masego, so we invited me to the studio with him – it was very Zen, incense burning and s—t. Sego was in there are we have two hours to write the record because I had another session right after, but me and Masego became instant homies. To this day, we’re working on a new project together. That original session was just two really talented guys having fun, but it was a conversation too.
After the break-up, my ex left mad clothes at the crib! [Laughs.] Literally a whole wardrobe of s–t; chicks would come over like, “Why do you have heels in your f—king closet?” and then I’d have to explain the whole thing. It turned into this really cool conversation about your significant other leaving things after a breakup… it’s almost like a totem of the relationship not being over.
The concept of marriage gets some airtime on Mutt as well. Were there any other moments in your life where you weren’t thinking about marriage?
When I was younger and broke and s–t, I just felt like the idea of marrying somebdoy and being that guy is insane. You want to be a provider and support your significant other. It’s not about gender roles or anything, it’s just about wanting to kill s—t. I feel like I had so much to figure out – I still do – but I love where I’m at right now. It even helps me sing records like “I Do” a little bit better. I’m still making it work, but I feel more comfortable supporting somebody else outside of myself now.
From an artistic and business standpoint, how would you compare your approach to this album versus Electric Dusk?
I learned a lot being on being in the Motown Universe and hanging around Ty a lot. He’s big on hits, he’s big on “Let’s get the number on, baby!” He has this competitive energy to it and I’m very “flower child” about it all. As I got into this new album, I was like, “Oh shit, it’s war outside.” I’m really going for blood. I’m very confident, I’m f—king nice. Now I’m like, f—k all the humble s–t, but not in a bad way. I’m ready to shift into another gear.
As we get closer to the album drop, what’s the one song on the record that you’re most excited for day one Leon Thomas fans to hear?
I feel like the Shade Room aunties are really going to like “Yes It Is.” I feel like they gonna f—k with me, it’s just body roll ready. They can dig into that one. I gave ‘em one, because I’m wilding on the rest [of the album], you don’t even know what genre I’m in in. But that one is straight up and down R&B with some church chords. The day ones are going to like that.
There are some other ones like “Used To” (with Baby Rose) that I think will resonate well. It’s cool to have that male-female back and forth.
What are your touring plans looking like?
I’m opening up for Blxst for [about] 20 dates and I’m also doing a headline tour too. That’s when I get to bring the whole band and shit. Man, touring…. Oh my God! Can I make some money, please?! [Laughs].
When you were in the trenches of your Mutt era, what was the soundtrack?
This is random as hell, but I was really obsessed with Ozzy Osbourne. Black Sabbath had this album called Paranoid and I was just really rocking with it. Lots of Rolling Stones, David Bowie and Marvin Gaye. I was also working with George Clinton randomly on some record that he was doing, and I really started digging into P-funk and researching all the different artists that he had locked in under his labels. A lot of that dog stuff came from that too, paying homage to the funk legend that is George Clinton.
Are you still in your Mutt phase?
I don’t even really think there was like a solid phase or anything. I just think when you get out of a relationship, it’s like, “Oh! I can talk to people again.” I was just documenting that. Now, I’m just chilling, bro. I don’t really have too much time to frolic around the world and get messy. It’s important right now for me to focus and I wish I could have a real significant other that I was building with prior to this, so it could just be more status quo and chill. But for now, I’m keeping my life as simple as possible.
Do you feel like you hear the call of the status quo the older you get?
Yeah, man. All the homies is getting married. I got a bachelor party to go to in a couple months. I do get a little FOMO. Everybody’s doing the adulting thing, but I’m just busy. It’s not even fair to a significant other right now. It’s nice to maybe flirt with the idea of it, but to be honest though, I don’t know.
Who have you been in the studio with recently?
Me and Giveon have been working a bunch. That’s my brother, we got the same management, so it’s always nice locking in with him. I got some great songs that we’ve worked on together. I’m really excited for the world to hear. Masego, like I said before. Me and Aminé have been really close too, and he’s just so dope. It’s cool to make beats and not be pigeonholed to the same 12 pockets. He’s down to explore and he can rap his ass off. He’s writing like crazy in the studio. Big Sean just put out his new project, so I was working with him and he put Uncle Charlie [Wilson] on the joint I was on, which is amazing. And with Ty, I’m definitely little bro when it comes to him. I’m always in the studio rocking with him and writing records. It’s been cool to see his process and his journey to No. 1s.
I’m really looking forward to just continuing to shoot my shot for myself. It’s been a lot of work on me because I have to be selfish in that way right now. It’s war outside. I gotta get out there and make this s—t happen, man.
Here’s how nostalgic Brad Paisley is: “I find myself before an amazing event is even finished thinking, ‘Oh man, this is really gonna be a bummer when it’s over!’,” he says.
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So it should come as no surprise that the country star decided to look back at a historic chapter in his life and career when creating “Truck Still Works,” his new single that drops today on EMI Music. The song serves as a companion of sorts to 1994’s charming, uplifting “Mud on the Tires,” which became one of his biggest hits.
The catchy, mid-tempo tune, which Paisley premiered on the People’s Choice Country Awards Thursday night (Sept. 26) as a medley with “Mud on the Tires,” questions if he and his female companion can turn a truck that’s been sitting dormant for years into a wayback machine that can transport them back to an earlier, care-free time. As the lyrics ask, they can “see if them miles of corn still got that shade of green” or “find out if that dogwood limb is still there to hang our shirts.” “It’s no more complicated than the nostalgia of it,” Paisley says of the song. “We all want to recapture certain aspects of life.”
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When “Truck Still Works” co-writers Rodney Clawson, Will Bundy and Hunter Phelps first approached Paisley and DuBois, who co-wrote “Mud on the Tires,” about revisiting that song in some manner, the trio expressed apprehension about stepping on the Paisley/DuBois classic. However, Paisley says, “Chris and I were like, ‘Oh no! Lean in!’ This is truly a sequel.”
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It felt right and good to revisit that time again, Paisley says. “I look back on the Mud on the Tires era as an album and a time period where everything did sort of launch in a bigger way for me. ‘Mud on the Tires’ was a call to action, a metaphor, it felt like a lifestyle.” For Paisley, the title track became his fourth No. 1 on Billboard’s Hot Country Songs chart and the album’s fourth Top 5 hit and further catapulted his career. To this day, Paisley ends his shows with “Mud on the Tires.” “If I don’t do it, people want their money back,” he says. “I can’t imagine my identity as an artist without that, so it’s really fun to kind of lean into this.”
Once they “leaned in,” the five co-writers had a blast planting Easter eggs in “Truck Still Works” that hark back to “Mud on the Tires, ” while still creating a song that felt “entirely new,” Paisley says. In addition to the lyrical references, Paisley even threw in musical reminders, such as using similar guitar patterns and chord inversions.
Those musical cues were enough for ardent fans, including Jelly Roll and Post Malone, to guess the song was a “Mud on the Tires” sequel based on a small snippet Paisley posted on Instagram and X earlier this week. “It’s fun to think back when Jelly was a young’un, he might have even bought ‘Mud on the Tires,’” Paisley says.
The throwbacks extend to the single artwork, which features the truck that Paisley had when “Mud on the Tires” came out and serves as his farm truck now.
The song intentionally doesn’t answer if the truck does, indeed, still work, leaving it up to the listener’s imagination. “That wouldn’t be cool,” he says, to bring the song back to reality. “It’s still the metaphor of it, the idea of can you recapture that thing when everything’s [now] different,” he says.
The song shifts sonic gears for Paisley who last September released Son of the Mountains: The First Four Tracks, an EP of a quartet of songs in part inspired by his growing up in West Virginia. The album tackled such serious subjects as the opioid crisis, which has hit his home state particularly hard, on “The Medicine Will.” It also looked at the ways we are all alike no matter where we’re from with “Same Here,” which featured a spoken word passage by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
That album is now on hold. “I ended up getting really excited about a few of these things that I started to write, and we came up with an entirely new project,” he says.
Given the weightiness of some of the topics on Son of the Mountains, Paisley wanted to take a break. “There’s a lot of it that’s very heavy. A lot of [the album] exists to deal with things and I don’t know if anybody really wants to deal with things right now. I don’t. And if I’m going to put the rest of that album out, I have to be willing to sort of discuss some very heavy things. I don’t know that I would even want to do that right now.”
Instead, he says the lighter fare on Truck Still Works is what “I think people really want to hear right now.”
The new album, which will likely come out in early 2025, will be his first full-length album since 2017 and his first since moving from Sony Nashville’s Arista imprint to Universal Music Group Nashville’s EMI Records. Paisley says “Truck” is a good indicator of the album’s direction.
“The project has some deeper things on it but, like the song itself, is really about creativity and nostalgia and you know the themes that you want to hear right now,” he says. “Sometimes, like in these times, it’s great to give people something they just want to turn up and takes them to a place where they feel good.”