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Tiesto & Tate McRae’s ‘10:35,’ Newly Remixed By Joel Corry, Surges on Hot Dance/Electronic Songs Chart

Tiësto takes top Streaming and Sales Gainer honors on Billboard‘s multimetric Hot Dance/Electronic Songs chart (dated Feb. 4) with “10:35,” featuring Tate McRae. The collab climbs from No. 6 to No. 5, returning to its highest rank, following the Jan. 19 release of its Joel Corry remix. The track earned 5.8 million official U.S. streams, up 23%, and sold 1,400 downloads, up 15%, while also drawing 3 million radio airplay audience impressions, up 53%, in the Jan. 20-26 tracking week, according to Luminate.

“10:35,” which debuted at No. 8 on the Nov. 19 tally and has remained in the top 10 since, is Tiësto’s eighth top 10, among 36 career entries (dating to the chart’s 2013 inception). It’s McRae’s second, after “You,” with Regard and Troye Sivan, reigned for eight weeks in June-August 2021.

Concurrently, “10:35” improves on Dance/Electronic Streaming Songs (5-3) and Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales (5-4). Additionally, “10:35” clocks in at No. 72 on the all-genre Billboard Hot 100, debuting as Tiësto’s seventh song to make the survey and McRae’s sixth.

Continuing with Hot Dance/Electronic Songs, ILLENIUM and Nina Nesbitt notch the list’s highest entrance with “Luv Me a Little,” at No. 11. Now with 46 career entries, ILLENIUM ties Calvin Harris for the sixth-most; David Guetta leads with 73, followed by Kygo (61), Marshmello (54), The Chainsmokers (52) and Martin Garrix (51).

“Luv,” Nesbitt’s first showing on the chart, starts with 1.8 million streams. It’s from ILLENIUM’s self-titled album, due April 28.

Shifting to the Dance/Mix Show Airplay chart, Anabel Englund cruises to her eighth top 10, in as many tries, with “Need Me Right” (11-5). Since she first advanced to the top 10 with “So Hot” (12-7, May 2, 2020; the track ultimately peaked at No. 2), Englund matches Corry and Guetta for the most among all acts. Englund has two No. 1s, “Picture Us” (October 2020) and “Underwater,” with MK (April 2021).

“Need” is scoring core-dance airplay on Music Choice’s Dance/EDM channel, KMVQ-HD2 San Francisco and WZFL (Revolution 93.5, All Things Dance) Miami, among other signals. (The Dance/Mix Show Airplay chart measures radio airplay on a select group of full-time dance stations, along with plays during mix shows on around 70 top 40-formatted reporters.)

Meanwhile, Corry collects his ninth top 10 on Dance/Mix Show Airplay and Tom Grennan grabs his second with “Lionheart (Fearless)” (14-8). The song soars with notable core-dance airplay on SiriusXM’s BPM, Music Choice’s Dance/EDM and KNHC (C89.5) Seattle.

Bad Bunny Presents ‘Big Brother’ Noah Assad Billboard’s Executive of the Year Award

Bad Bunny was all smiles and nerves while presenting his longtime manager, Noah Assad, with the Executive of the Year award at Billboard‘s 2023 Power 100 event on Wednesday (Feb. 2) at Goya Studios.

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After being introduced by Leila Cobo, Billboard‘s Chief Content Officer Latin/Español, the global sensation, who typically opts to publicly speak in Spanish, decided to give English a try, lightheartedly joking with the crowd, “Tonight is a special night not because my friend is winning this award, it’s more because I’m making my first English speech ever.” He was met with supportive applause and cheers, with a handful of attendees encouraging him to speak in Spanish anyway. Nevertheless, El Conejo Malo found middle ground, sharing a heartfelt speech in a mix of both languages.

“I know my man doesn’t like this kind of thing — this attention, the speech, this corny s–t,” he said amidst laughter from the crowd. “This award means a lot to me, the same way that my own awards mean a lot for him. It’s because this award is the proof that I’m not working alone, that dreams come true, but it’s never only by yourself. It’s always about team work.”

Together, the dynamic Puerto Rican pair have achieved unprecedented heights in Spanish and English markets, including Bad Bunny’s first of two tours in 2022, El Último Tour del Mundo, boasting the top sales day for any tour on Ticketmaster (since Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s On the Run II tour went on sale in 2018), selling out nearly half a million tickets in less than a week. Four months after the tour closed, Bad Bunny commenced his World’s Hottest Tour stadium run, which made him the first artist to ever achieve separate $100 million-plus tours in the same calendar year. The global pop star’s 81 concerts in 2022 grossed $434.9 million, which marked the highest calendar-year total for any artist since the launching of Billboard Boxscore in the 1980s, posing it to become the biggest Latin tour ever.

“I came from a family of three brothers, I’m the oldest one,” Bad Bunny continued. “I never felt what it was like to have a big brother. So I want to thank Noah for being a friend, a partner and being like a big brother to me. I know that it’s tough, no soy facil, but I want to thank him for believing in me from the first day. Not just believing, but making those dreams and that vision real.”

Toward the end of his speech, the Puerto Rican phenomenon appeared to choke up under his sunshine-yellow New York Yankees fitted cap. “I want to thank him for inspiring me to dream bigger, to be a better person. To be more like you,” he directed to Assad. “There’s no big Bad Bunny superstar without Noah Assad. So if you ask me what it feels like to be the number one artist in the world, I have to say, I’m not. Noah is. We are the best. Lo mas hijo de p–a from Puerto Rico.”

As Bad Bunny foreshadowed in his sweet speech, Assad was a man of few words, more comfortable in the “big brother” role as Benito described it: in the wings cheering on his superstar friend. The pair shared a warm embrace before Bad Bunny playfully took the mic with him off stage to spare Assad the public speaking. “He had me crying in the corner,” Assad began. In the end, the mega exec offered a few profound words, shouting out his and Benito’s hometown of Carolina, Puerto Rico, and showering the rapper with praise, as the artist had just done for Assad.

“Everything we do, we do it to Puerto Rico, to the world. I’m honored to be the first Latin [to win this award] even though I don’t look like it,” he joked. “I want to thank Billboard. Billboard has always covered Latin. They never undervalue us in any way. They treat us as equal as the global American market. We have to be very grateful for that. At the end of the day, me and Bunny are products of thousands of people who work very hard on our island. All those walls they had to break down. There are a lot more stories to be told. This is only chapter one.”

Thanking his team back in Puerto Rico who couldn’t be at the event, Assad was brought to tears. “No one wins championships alone,” he says. “It kills me that [my team] isn’t here today. They’re everything.”

Halsey Celebrates ‘Without Me’ Earning RIAA Diamond Status: ‘Here’s to More Tears & More Songs’

Halsey just earned her second Diamond Certified solo record with “Without Me,” but it’s not just a big moment for the pop star. It’s also a big milestone for the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), the organization known for awarding artists with Gold, Platinum and Diamond statuses based on song sales and streams, as “Without Me” marks the 100th song to ever reach the coveted Diamond benchmark.

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The RIAA presented Halsey with their Diamond Certification during a special ceremony Wednesday (Feb. 1), after which the “Eastside” singer shared photos on Instagram and thanked her fans, record label and more. “Yesterday was just a littleeee out-of-body,” they wrote. “Without Me is my second diamond record, Closer was my first, but my very first one solo!”

It probably goes without saying, but achieving Diamond Certification is no easy feat — that’s why only 100 songs have received the award since its introduction in the late ’90s, after all. A Diamond Certification signifies that a track has gone 10x Platinum, meaning it’s garnered 10 million certified units or more.

“There were a few other really special stats I learned as well including that I have 75x platinum certifications across my catalog,” Halsey continued in their Instagram post. “This whole thing is so surreal. Huge thank you to @riaa_awards for coming out to present this incredible award… [and] all of the fans n friends for making this type of thing possible.”

“Here’s to more years and more tears and more songs,” she concluded.

In honor of 100 Diamond Certified songs, the RIAA released a video recapping every song to ever reach 10x Platinum status, starting with Elton John’s “Something About the Way You Look Tonight / Candle In The Wind 1997,” for which the inaugural Diamond award was created. See which songs from Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Bruno Mars, Cardi B, Lady Gaga, The Weeknd and more have gone Diamond by watching it on the RIAA’s website.

Why Is Country Music Underrepresented at the Grammys?

In 2018, the Recording Academy increased the number of nominees in the Big Four Grammy categories — album, song and record of the year and best new artist — from five to eight. Then, three years later, it boosted the pool from eight to 10.

These expansions were made to recognize more music creators and to represent more genres, according to the academy — yet for country artists, the benefits have thus far been nonexistent.

For the five Grammy Award nomination cycles (for ceremonies taking place in 2019-2023) since the first increase, there have been 196 total Big Four nominations, yet only six have gone to mainstream country artists or projects, with only one victory: Kacey Musgraves’ album of the year trophy for Golden Hour in 2019. In the five cycles before the increase (2014-2018), country artists scored seven nominations of the far smaller 125 total nods.

For the 65th Grammys, which will take place Feb. 5 in Los Angeles, country music is completely absent from the Big Four.

Genre classification can be blurry, but for this story, Billboard counted nominations that went to an artist or music that appears on Billboard’s Country Airplay, Hot Country Songs and Top Country Albums charts or is traditionally considered country. For 2023, that means Brandi Carlile’s album and record of the year nods don’t count in the country tally (though her 2020 song of the year nomination for co-writing Tanya Tucker’s “Bring Me My Flowers Now” did); same with song of the year nominee Taylor Swift, who is now considered a pop artist despite her country start. Best new artist nominee Molly Tuttle plays bluegrass, and while the genre is a branch of country music, her music doesn’t appear on those Billboard charts.

Previous years also have not-quite-country outliers: Maren Morris’ record of the year nomination for appearing with Zedd and Grey on “The Middle” didn’t count in the 2019-2023 tally since it was a pop hit. Though Sturgill Simpson doesn’t receive mainstream country radio play, A Sailor’s Guide to Earth debuted at No. 1 on the Top Country Albums chart and the set won the Grammy for best country album in 2017, so its album of the year nomination counts in the 2014-2018 tally. Similarly, Margo Price, whose albums chart on Top Country Albums, counts for her 2019 best new artist nomination.

Shelly Maree, the Recording Academy’s country awards manager, considers the low recent total cyclical, in part. “Right now, we’re in another lull period where you’re not hearing country played on top 40 [radio], so you’re not really hearing anybody break through like that, [while] rap and hip-hop and dance are having huge moments,” she says. “You can really kind of plop down into any decade or any five-year period in our top four nominations and you’re going to see reflected what is of the era at that moment.”

But for the country community, the absence of representation in the general field illuminates a bigger concern: that the genre doesn’t receive the broader attention it deserves, hurting its chances at nominations for those trophies. While the academy deems all Grammys equal, the four general-field categories carry more prestige and receive greater media attention.

“Generally speaking, country music remains outside of the large pop music tent, which includes many of the contemporary genres like pop and hip-hop and rock,” says Beverly Keel, Middle Tennessee State University dean of the College of Media and Entertainment and a former MCA Records Nashville executive. “I think a lot of Grammy voters may not even listen to country, and I think there is, in many voters’ minds, still a stigma about country that it’s not as sophisticated, hokey, the music of the conservatives.”

Additionally, despite the notable rise in streaming among younger country artists, the music lacks the global reach some pop-oriented genres enjoy. “Most country stars are not international stars like Beyoncé, Rihanna, Bruno Mars,” Keel says. “Country is largely limited to the United States and Canada, so it doesn’t have the reach, whereas a pop song may be No. 1 in 20 countries.”

As Mary Hilliard Harrington, manager for Dierks Bentley and Elle King, notes by email: “Even prior to 2019, country has been grossly underrepresented in the main categories. It has always been a problem.” The three mainstream country artists with the most career nominations are Willie Nelson (56), Dolly Parton (53) and Vince Gill (47) — but Nelson and Gill have each landed only one Big Four nomination (in 1983 and 2008, respectively), while Parton has earned two (most recently in 1988).

The current generation of country hit-makers hasn’t fared much better. Miranda Lambert, who is nominated in all four country categories this year, has never received a Big Four nomination despite 27 career nods. Only one of Chris Stapleton’s 17 nominations has been in the general field, when Traveller received an album of the year nod for the 2016 Grammys. And one of country’s biggest new stars, Morgan Wallen, didn’t compete at all in 2022: He was shut out from Grammy nominations after his 2021 smash Dangerous: The Double Album was mired in controversy.

Country music has recently fared best in the new artist category, with Price, Luke Combs, Ingrid Andress and Jimmie Allen nabbing nominations since 2019. For the 2023 awards, Zach Bryan, the top new country artist on Billboard’s year-end charts, and rising star Lainey Wilson were both considered leading contenders for best new artist, and their respective labels (Warner Records and BBR Music Group) ran campaigns accordingly. But when nominations were announced in November, neither earned a best new artist nod, nor did anyone else from the genre. Though Wilson made significant press and TV appearances in an effort to reach as broad an audience as possible, Bryan made almost none, which sources say may have limited his exposure to Grammy voters.

Significantly, the overall voting pool lacks enough country advocates to consistently propel the genre into the Big Four without strong support from allies. Of the current 12,000-plus voting members, less than 10% identify with the country genre, according to the academy, compared with pop (23%), jazz (16%), rock (15%), R&B (15%), American roots (13%), alternative (10%) and classical (10%). (Voters can identify with as many genres as they want.) All voting members can cast ballots for the Big Four.

While qualifying creators can still apply to join the academy, following the recommendation of its Task Force on Diversity and Inclusion, in 2018 the academy began inviting creators to join as voting members. The move was meant to make the voting pool more reflective of the diverse creative community and initially focused on women, people of color and those under 40.

In recent years, however, potential new members who identify as country have received fewer invitations than peers in other popular genres. Of the 2,710 invitations extended in 2021, 9% of recipients identified with the country genre, with 13 other genres ranking higher. The highest percentage of invited voters identified as pop (29%), followed by R&B (23%), jazz (18%), alternative (18%), rock (16%) and rap (15%). In 2022, the academy welcomed nearly 2,000 new voting members; 9% cited country as their focus, compared with pop (33%), R&B (22%), alternative (19%) and rap (15%).

The country community’s easiest way to increase its odds would be by boosting its presence in the voting membership. “A really good place to start is talk to your friends and [ask], ‘Are you a Recording Academy member?’ And then step two is, ‘Are you voting?,’ ” Maree says. “This year, we were really encouraging our active members to fulfill that responsibility and use their voices, especially [since] the first round of voting directly dictates our nominations now that we no longer have nominating committees. ‘Are they voting?’ is the first thing we always ask people when they have any kind of questions about what they see when it comes to nominations day.”

Although Keel says a Grammy is “what people grow up dreaming about winning,” for country artists, the conversation doesn’t begin and end with one awards ceremony. More so than many other genres, country music has numerous awards shows to fete its own accomplishments, including the Country Music Association Awards, the Academy of Country Music Awards and the CMT Music Awards. Those ample additional opportunities to bring home trophies could help lessen the sting of a Grammy snub, Harrington says.

“At this point — because it’s nothing new — [the omissions are] more of an eye roll than outrage,” she says. “The country community is truly the best in terms of supporting its artists, celebrating great music and producing our own network television award shows. Being part of the Grammys is cool and a bucket list dream for a lot of artists, but we have it pretty good in Nashville. If we aren’t invited to that party, we’ll just throw our own.”

This story will appear in the Feb. 4, 2023, issue of Billboard.

31 Milestones in Hip-Hop Awards History: Star-Studded Grammy Salute, Super Bowl Halftime Show & More 

The announcement on Thursday (Feb. 2) that the Grammy Awards on Sunday, Feb. 5, will include a star-studded segment celebrating the 50th anniversary of hip-hop is just the latest in a long series of milestone moments for the genre on awards shows.

LL Cool J will introduce the segment, which will include performances by Big Boi, Busta Rhymes with Spliff Star, De La Soul, DJ Drama, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Missy Elliott, Future, GloRilla, Grandmaster Flash, Grandmaster Mele Mel & Scorpio/Ethiopian King, Ice-T, Lil Baby, Lil Wayne, The Lox, Method Man, Nelly, Public Enemy, Queen Latifah, Rahiem, Rakim, RUN-DMC, Salt-N-Pepa and Spinderella, Scarface, Swizz Beatz and Too $hort.

“For five decades, hip-hop has not only been a defining force in music, but a major influence on our culture,” Harvey Mason jr., CEO of the Recording Academy, said in a statement. “Its contributions to art, fashion, sport, politics, and society cannot be overstated. I’m so proud that we are honoring it in such a spectacular way on the Grammy stage.”

While this segment is one of the most lavish celebrations of hip-hop to date on an awards show, rappers have been winning awards and earning plaudits for decades. In September 2022, The Pepsi Super Bowl LVI Halftime Show Starring Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Mary J. Blige, Eminem, Kendrick Lamar and 50 Cent became the first Super Bowl halftime show to win a Primetime Emmy for outstanding variety special (live).

Below, take a look at 31 milestones in hip-hop awards history. We’ll keep adding to this list as more history-making moments happen.

Mariah Carey’s ‘It’s a Wrap’ Explodes at Streaming Thanks to TikTok Challenge

Over the past month, Mariah Carey has beckoned her fans toward “It’s a Wrap,” a luxurious album cut from her 2009 album Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, and the Lambily has responded in kind. Since Carey launched a TikTok dance challenge in mid January, weekly U.S. on-demand streams of “It’s a Wrap” have soared by more than 1,000% compared to where they were at the beginning of the month, and have kept climbing as more Carey fans have participated in the challenge.

On Jan. 15, Carey acknowledged a sped-up version of “It’s a Wrap” gaining social media traction by performing her own elaborately choreographed sequence to the song. The clip, complete with backup dancers and a sandwich wrap at the end for a cheeky sight gag, has earned more than 575,000 views on TikTok to date.

Naturally, her diehard fans wanted to recreate her choreography over the following days — and on Jan. 26, the superstar shared a slew of her favorite fan clips. “Battery about to die.. just watched hundreds of videos of IT’S A WRAP ON TIKTOK!!! I can’t even know what to say!!!” Carey posted.

The combination of Carey kicking off the challenge with her own clip, then personally posting some standouts from the thousands of fan clips that followed, has helped generate tons of new interest in “It’s a Wrap” on streaming platforms. During the week ending Jan. 26, the song earned 1.65 million U.S. on-demand streams, according to Luminate — a massive increase from its pre-TikTok challenge total, as it earned 17,000 streams in the week ending Dec. 29.

“It’s a Wrap” was never released as a single from Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel, which was led by the top 10 hit “Obsessed,” and has yet to hit the Billboard Hot 100. Its TikTok revival follows Carey’s “All I Want for Christmas Is You” once again scaling the chart and reaching No. 1 during the holiday season.

Click here to read more about the “It’s a Wrap” TikTok revival and watch more of Carey’s favorite fan clips.

Reba McEntire Originally Turned Down Seat on ‘The Voice’ and Said Filling Blake Shelton’s Shoes Is ‘Gonna Be Tough’

The Voice could have had a very different vibe if producers had gotten their first choice of judges to fill one of the iconic red spinning chairs. In an interview with ET Online country legend Reba McEntire was asked who she thought would make a good replacement for soon-to-depart OG coach Blake Shelton, revealing that it could have been her they were looking to re-cast.

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McEntire reminded ET that she was originally offered a role on the reality singing series before it debuted in 2011, with producers then offering the gig to Shelton, who will end his 12-year-run with the show after Season 23, which premieres on NBC on March 6. “Who could fill Blake’s shoes?” McEntire asked with a smile according to ET.

“I got [a look at] the Holland version of The Voice. They sent it to me and I said, ‘I can’t see me doing that,’” she said of her feelings after seeing the original version of the show that has spawned a global franchise. “Because, you know, I’m a gypsy at heart,” McEntire, 67, said, noting that she’s not sure she could be committed to one project for so long and stay in one place.

Whoever does permanently fill Blake’s shoes has their work cut out for them, McEntire said. “To fill Blake’s chair? Wow. That’s gonna be tough,” she predicted. “He did a great job and kudos to him.” McEntire didn’t totally blow producers off, though, agreeing to serve as a mentor to Team Blake during the show’s premiere 2011 season and returning again in 2015.

The upcoming season of The Voice will feature new coaches Niall Horan and Chance the Rapper joining Shelton and returning cast member Kelly Clarkson.

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SEVENTEEN’s BSS Unveils ‘Second Wind’ Tracklist With Sporty Highlight Medley: Listen

SEVENTEEN‘s subunit BSS — which consists of members Seungkwan, DK and Hoshi — unveiled the tracklist for its forthcoming album, Second Wind, on Wednesday (Feb. 1) through a sporty highlight medley that details the track themes and provided snippets of the songs to come.

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The medley video was designed like a fitness app with goal trackers, measurement of energy and a community that consisted of the SEVENTEEN singers, who also serve as voice and fitness coaches for CARATs.

DK launched into his guiding messages, and explained in detail what fans may gain from the project’s lead single. “‘Fighting’ is the first and title track of BSS’ first single album, Second Wind,” he says in the video, as snaps of him running on a track and wearing sportswear appear onscreen.

“The song is like a positive energy. Your own cheerleaders BSS offer you to help you start a refreshing day thinking, ‘I can do this!’ You can start your day with brimming energy if you start with this song,” DK adds before an upbeat preview of the track starts to play.

Seungkwan was up next for the second track from Second Wind. “‘LUNCH’ is a song that will wash away the drowsiness of the afternoon and fill you with subtle but invigorating energy. ‘LUNCH’ is a song with a distinctive and cheerful melody that makes you want to keep listening! Should we have lunch together with this song?” he says, leading into a synth-heavy preview of the song.

Hoshi closes out the voice coaching with details about the final tune on the album. “The third track, ‘7PM’ is a good song to wrap up your tough and tiring day. I hope you can get pleasant comfort from this song on a day that feels especially longer than the others. Everyone, great job today as always. BSS is always by your side to support your day,” he says as he signs off, before a preview of the mellow song closes out the video.

Second Wind serves as the first single album for BSS since the release of the group’s debut single, “Just Do It,” in 2018. The album will arrive on Monday, Feb. 6.

Watch the Second Wind highlight medley in the video above.

Trippie Redd’s ‘Mansion’ Sits Atop Rap Albums Chart With No. 1 Debut

Trippie Redd banks his fourth consecutive No. 1 album on Billboard’s Top Rap Albums chart as Mansion Musik debuts in the top slot of the list dated Feb. 4. The set, released on Jan. 20 via 1400/Ten Thousand Projects/Capitol Records, opens with 56,000 equivalent album units earned in the U.S. in the week ending Jan. 26, according to Luminate.

Of the 56,000 unit start, 50,000 units derive from streaming-equivalent album units, representing 68.1 million official on-demand U.S. streams of the album’s songs. 5,000 of the remaining units are from traditional album sales, and the residual balance of 1,000 units comes from track-equivalent album units. (One unit equals the following levels of consumption: one album sale, 10 individual tracks sold from an album, or 3,750 ad-supported or 1,250 paid/subscription on-demand official audio and video streams for a song on the album.)

Mansion Musik gives Trippie Redd his fifth total champ on the Top Rap Albums chart, and, as mentioned above, marks his fourth leader in a row. Here’s a full recap of all seven of his No. 1s on the chart – all of which have ruled for one week:

  • A Love Letter to You 3, Nov. 24, 2018
  • A Love Letter to You 4, Dec. 7, 2019
  • Pegasus, Nov. 14, 2020
  • Trip at Knight, Nov. 4, 2021
  • Mansion Musik, Feb. 4, 2023

In addition to the five chart-toppers, the 23-year-old rapper has three more albums that have made the list: A Love Letter to You 2 reached at No. 14 in October 2017, Life’s a Trip achieved a No. 4 best in August 2018 and ! debuted and peaked in the runner-up spot in August 2019.

Elsewhere, Mansion Musik starts at No. 2 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, behind only SZA’s blockbuster SOS, and at No. 3 on the all-genre Billboard 200, trailing SOS and Taylor Swift’s Midnights.

As Mansion Musik arrives, four of its songs land on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. “Knight Crawler,” with Juice WRLD, leads the pack at No. 19 and was the project’s most streamed song of the week. “Crawler” registered 10 million official U.S. streams in the week and launched at No. 4 on the Rap Streaming Songs chart.

After “Crawler,” the next highest placement on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs belongs to “Fully Loaded,” with Future and Lil Baby, which starts at No. 33. The Travis Scott collab “Krzy Train” starts at No. 35, while a second teamup with Lil Baby, “Dark Brotherhood,” enters at No. 46.

Taylor Lautner Wishes He’d Handled That Taylor Swift, Kanye West VMAs Moment Differently

Taylor Swift once wrote the lyrics, “This me swallowing my pride, standing in front of you, saying I’m sorry for that night,” allegedly about Taylor Lautner, and now, the Twilight actor is returning the favor. In a recent podcast appearance, Lautner opened up about regretting how he handled that fateful night in September 2009 when, seconds after he presented a VMA award to the pop star, Kanye West rushed the stage and took the microphone.

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The recollection comes during a Wednesday (Feb. 1) episode of The Squeeze, a podcast hosted by Lautner’s wife, health influencer Taylor Lautner (that’s not a typo, they share the same first and last name!). When Mrs. Lautner asked Mr. Lautner which moment in his life to which he’d like to travel back in time and change, he said, “Probably the 2009 VMAs when I presented the award to Taylor and was unaware that the Kanye thing was not a skit.”

You might recall that this was also around the time Swift and the Home Team star dated, as confirmed during the podcast by Lautner’s wife. “You and Taylor [Swift] had just gone public,” the podcast host prompted.

“I presented the award to her,” the actor continued. “I took five steps back and was standing five feet behind her. Kanye jumps up on to the stage. I could barely hear it, I can’t see them, I’m just assuming this whole thing was a practiced and rehearsed skit. Because why else would Kanye West be jumping up on the stage interrupting Taylor Swift? It just didn’t make sense.”

The Tracers star went on to say he regrets his onstage reaction to the moment, even though he couldn’t hear what was happening at the time. “If you look back at it, I’m actually caught laughing and giggling at them,” he recalled. “The second she turned back around and I saw her face for the first time, I was like, ‘Oh, that wasn’t good.’”

It was a pop-culture moment that immediately went down in history: Swift winning best video, female artist for “You Belong With Me,” Kanye West grabbing the microphone and shouting the now infamous line, “I’mma let you finish, but …,” and Beyoncé’s horrified expression as he declared her the rightful winner of the award. It was the very beginning of a decade-long, on-off feud between the “All Too Well” singer and Ye, who, 13 years later, has been in and out of the news for making infinitely more shocking statements about antisemitism.

After that chaotic VMAs ceremony, Swift went on to release her 2010 third studio album, Speak Now, with songs seemingly dedicated to both Ye (“Innocent”) and Lautner (“Back to December”). In the latter track, she even appeared to reference the award-show incident, singing about how a love “held me in your arms that September night/ The first time you ever saw me cry.”

Watch Taylor Lautner reflect on the infamous Kanye West/Taylor Swift VMAs moment below: