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As Grammy Voting Opens Today, Here Are 18 Categories We’re Watching (And Why)

Final-round voting for the 66th Annual Grammy Awards begins today (Dec. 14) at 9:00 a.m. PT and continues through Jan. 4 at 6:00 p.m. PT.

So, while you’re enjoying the holidays with friends and family, voting members of the Recording Academy will be hunkering down with their digital ballots, thoughtfully weighing their choices and catching up on releases they weren’t fully familiar with yet. (Or so Harvey Mason jr., CEO of the Recording Academy, fervently hopes.)

OK, more than a few voting members will probably put it off until hours before the deadline on Jan. 4 and then say “Holy crap!”

We hope voters take it seriously because a lot rides on their decisions. We’ve compiled this list of 18 categories we’ll be watching, and we explain why these categories are of particular interest.

Since more than a month has passed since the nominations were announced on Nov. 10, let’s catch you up. SZA was the leader in the nominations, with nine nods. Phoebe Bridgers, Serban Ghenea and Victoria Monét followed with seven nods each.

Jon Batiste, Miley Cyrus, Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift and SZA were each nominated in each of the Big Three categories – album, record and song of the year. Boygenius, Billie Eilish and Lana Del Rey were each nominated in two of those three categories.

The awards will be presented at Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles on Feb. 4. Trevor Noah will host the show for the fourth consecutive year. He is nominated this year for best comedy album for I Wish You Would, making him only the fifth Grammy host to be nominated in a year that he or she hosted the show.

Here are 18 categories we’ll be watching this year with particular interest. The categories are listed in the order they appear on the Grammy ballot.

JID’s ‘Surround Sound’ Crowns TikTok Billboard Top 50

There’s a new No. 1 on the TikTok Billboard Top 50 in JID’s “Surround Sound,” featuring 21 Savage and Baby Tate, which vaults from No. 5 to the top of the Dec. 16-dated tally.

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The TikTok Billboard Top 50 is a weekly ranking of the most popular songs on TikTok in the United States based on creations, video views and user engagement. The latest chart reflects activity Dec. 4-10. Activity on TikTok is not included in Billboard charts except for the TikTok Billboard Top 50.

“Surround Sound” reigns in its fourth week on the chart, completing a climb that began with its No. 13 debut on the Nov. 25 survey, followed by a pair of weeks at No. 5.

The song, first released in 2022, has largely been carried by a dance trend in which users mount or tape a phone to the ceiling and record a choreographed dance or other scene below, as previously reported.

Concurrently, “Surround Sound” continues its march up the Billboard Hot 100, reaching a new peak of No. 64. It earned 8.8 million official U.S. streams on services that report to the Hot 100 Dec. 1-7, up 31%, according to Luminate.

“Surround Sound” reigns over Mariah Carey’s “All I Want for Christmas Is You,” which spends a second week at No. 2 on the TikTok Billboard Top 50. It remains the leader of the pack when it comes to holiday tunes, with The Ronettes’ “Sleigh Ride” (specifically the PhatCap! trap remix) following at No. 6, its first time in the top 10, and Wham!’s “Last Christmas” and Brenda Lee’s “Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree” rounding out the group top 10-wise at Nos. 7 and 9, respectively.

In all, seven holiday-themed songs reach the Dec. 16 ranking. Michael Buble’s “It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas” rises to No. 22, while Andy Williams’ “It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year” (No. 27) and Bobby Helms’ “Jingle Bell Rock” (No. 40) debut.

The week’s top debut is courtesy of Flo Milli, whose “Never Lose Me” bows at No. 12. That’s after its Nov. 30 premiere and occurs concurrent with the track’s No. 22 debut on Billboard’s Hot Rap Songs chart.

“Never Lose Me” marks the rapper’s first TikTok Billboard Top 50 appearance. Some of its top uploads so far follow trends captioned “we’ve made it to the too comfortable stage,” showing couples hanging out in their downtime, or people pretending to tell their grandkids a bedtime story using the song’s lyrics, while others simply celebrate the song being out at all after it was teased earlier in the fall.

It’s followed by a currently unreleased song in Alex G’s “I Wait for You,” which begins at No. 15. Though never officially released, the track has nonetheless become popular in the singer-songwriter’s canon, slowly rising over the past few months on TikTok both via its original version and a sped-up edition.

One spot above “I Wait for You,” mikeeysmind and Sanikwave’s “VVV (HE’S BACK)” vaults from its No. 48 debut Dec. 9 to No. 14, the sound again used in a variety of ways rather than one overarching trend – though many include footage of gameplay from a variety of video games, chiefly Fortnite. “VVV” incorporates vocals from Playboi Carti, though uncredited; it racked up 1.2 million streams in the latest Billboard tracking week, up 28%.

See the full TikTok Billboard Top 50 here, also featuring debuts from WILLOW, Flo Rida, Madonna and more. You can also tune in each Friday to SiriusXM’s TikTok Radio (channel 4) to hear the premiere of the chart’s top 10 countdown at 3 p.m. ET, with reruns heard throughout the week.

Why Grammy Recognition Matters

It’s a perennial question that dominates the discourse every year when the Recording Academy votes to recognize musical excellence. In a world where success can be measured with streaming figures, tour tickets sold, social media followers — and, yes, Billboard chart placements — what significance do those classic golden trophies still have?

For these 18 past winners, all nominated again in 2024, plenty, from keeping the music community vibrant to facilitating future hits to simply boosting morale.

Jon Batiste

Past wins: Album of the year (We Are), best score soundtrack for visual media (Soul), best music video (“Freedom”), best American roots song (“Cry”), best American roots performance (“Cry”) (all in 2022).

Nominated this year: Album of the year (World Music Radio), record of the year (“Worship”), song of the year (“Butterfly”), best pop duo/group performance (“Candy Necklace”), best jazz performance (“Movement 18’ (Heroes)”), best American roots performance (“Butterfly”).

Jon Batiste

Jon Batiste

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Why does democracy matter? Why does recognition matter? Why does acknowledgment matter? Why does the idea that someone who exists in a narrow corridor of humanity, creating music and songs and videos and performances — why does the acknowledgment of that matter, in a democratic process through peer recognition and achievement? If we throw all that out — if that doesn’t matter — there are greater questions of what matters and doesn’t that we need to address.

It’s important for us as a community to acknowledge each other and our achievements, even if we don’t all agree on what they are or what the metrics of that should be. Ultimately, I encourage communities of artists who disagree. It’s important. There’s room for us to have debate about what deserves recognition and [how that’s measured]. But at the end of the day, we need a democracy, and we need to back the achievements of folks. That’s a ritual that goes back millennia, and that’s part of how we continue to build and understand what’s important and signify to future generations what we deem important. —AS TOLD TO REBECCA MILZOFF

Dan Wilson

Past wins: Song of the year (“Not Ready To Make Nice,” 2007), album of the year (21, 2012).

Nominated this year: Song of the year (“Butterfly”), best country song (“White Horse”).

Dan Wilson

Dan Wilson

Shervin Lainez

The Grammys are a great way to put the music-making community front and center. They are a good reminder of how a great pop song can create a shared experience for people of widely diverging backgrounds and beliefs. The show’s performances are often pretty inspiring and powerful. I also like the fact that the final voting is done by the musicians and artists themselves.

My first Grammy win, for “Not Ready To Make Nice” by The Chicks, did make a big difference, mostly in ways that I appreciate. That win was a vindication of a kind for the band — in the aftermath of all The Chicks’ political troubles, the Recording Academy voters sent them a strong message of support. That felt really good. Secondly, that record was loved by the songwriters and artists. I think that made artists, in particular, more comfortable with the idea of working with me. I think Adele, for example, would’ve been far less likely to do the “Someone Like You” sessions with me if I hadn’t worked with The Chicks and helped them make that body of work. Adele loved that album, and I think it gave her confidence that she and I could do something great together.

I’ve been at this music thing for a long time, and to be nominated in four different decades is a very rare honor. I think whether or not I’m a good songwriter has been determined by now, and the Grammys don’t affect that. Mostly, what these nominations signal to me is that I’m a very fortunate person. I’m very grateful for that. —AS TOLD TO LYNDSEY HAVENS

Mark Ronson

Past wins: Producer of the year, non-classical (2008), best pop vocal album (Back to Black, 2008), record of the year (“Rehab,” 2008), best pop duo/group performance (“Uptown Funk!,” 2016), record of the year (“Uptown Funk!,” 2016), best dance recording (“Electricity,” 2019), best song written for visual media (“Shallow,” 2019).

Nominated this year: Song of the year (“Dance the Night [From Barbie: The Album]”), best compilation soundtrack for visual media (Barbie: The Album), best song written for visual media (“I’m Just Ken [From Barbie: The Album]”), best song written for visual media (“Dance the Night [From Barbie: The Album]”), best score soundtrack for visual media (Barbie).

Mark Ronson

Mark Ronson

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The first Grammys [I attended] in 2008 was so incredible… I was actually with my mother — like a good Jewish boy on Grammy night. And then [in] 2013 we were nominated for “Locked Out of Heaven,” and we lost to some French robots who very much deserved it. Then a few years later, being back with Bruno [Mars] for “Uptown Funk!,” that was another fantastic year. There’s Kendrick [Lamar] in front of you and George Clinton and all these people that you love and respect so much, and you love their work and everybody’s there together… [The Grammys] are these wonderful nights, whether you win or lose, where you’re there with the people that you came up with.

A win on Grammy night is always incredibly rewarding. It’s the top honor in the field that we all work so hard in. I’ve already gotten so much further than I ever thought I would and much more than I ever could have really dreamed of… I used to probably be a little more competitive about it. Now it really is, without sounding cliché, just nice to be recognized. A win would certainly be the icing on the cake — but I’m just happy to be at the party. —AS TOLD TO L.H.

Lauren Daigle

Past wins: Best contemporary Christian music album (Look Up Child), best ­contemporary Christian music performance/song (“You Say”) (both in 2019).

Nominated this year: Best contemporary Christian music album (Lauren ­Daigle), best contemporary Christian music performance/song (“Thank God I Do”).

Lauren Daigle

Lauren Daigle

Jeremy Cowart

Time has passed since I got my [first] Grammys, but the rooms that I am now able to sit in, with some of the most incredible writers, producers and performers on the planet, is truly the greatest gift of all. I’m very grateful for the types of doors that have opened for me.

When I was told about the nominations this time, I couldn’t help but feel a sense of joy. Other incredible artists and peers in the business reaching into my world and saying my music matters is something that humbles me. Another win would be like adding oil to the lantern… It would give me a chance to honor all of the amazing people who made this record with me [and] would hopefully give them a chance to have their dreams take flight, too. —AS TOLD TO L.H.

Tariq “Black Thought” Trotter

Past wins: Best rap performance by a duo or group (“You Got Me,” 2000), best musical theater album (Hamilton, 2016).

Nominated this year: Best rap performance (“Love Letter”).

Tarik

Tarik “Black Thought” Trotter

Joshua Kissi

I remember when we [The Roots] won our first Grammy. We were sitting in the audience. I was kicking it with Lenny Kravitz and Zoë [Kravitz]. Zoë was like 11 or 12, and I remember sitting there being like, “Yo, that’s so dope that he brought his daughter. When my daughter is old enough, I’m going to bring her to the Grammys.”

I remember being lost in that moment. There was no doubt in my mind that we were just nominated and weren’t going to win. We were up against the titans, and it was everybody with all of the joints that year. So for us to win, it just felt surreal. I felt like we arrived. It was definitely a validation within that moment. That was really for Philly. Once you’re stamped, once you have that credential, it’s a different certification. It definitely holds weight. It makes a huge difference. When you’re recognized by any academy, it’s a huge stamp as far as branding, businesswise, achievementwise and in every regard.

What the Grammy means to people, fans and artists is ever-evolving. The earlier Grammys [win] was more monumental because it was my first and did represent that arrival. Winning a Grammy in recent years, it’s a different sort of validation. It speaks to the decades of hard work that I’ve put in. It’s a different certification and gives you a certain boost of confidence to continue in your creative journey. —AS TOLD TO CARL LAMARRE

Carlos Vives

Past wins: Best traditional tropical Latin album (Déjame Entrar, 2002), best tropical Latin album (Más + Corazón Profundo, 2015).

Nominated this year: Best tropical Latin album (Escalona Nunca Se Había Grabado Así).

Carlos Vives

Carlos Vives

Del Vecchio

I never dreamed that something like this could happen to me in the Latin world, much less did I think that I could ever be honored by the American Recording Academy. Winning my first Grammy is unforgettable because it left me with that taste of hope that I’ve connected with others. When the academy values the work of a Latino who sings in Spanish, it is a special and important sign for me.

Winning a Grammy still matters today. It’s a dream, actually. It has become an aspiration of a musician who wants to make an impact in the industry. A musician aspires to a Grammy, and for the academy to look at that musician and say, “This is original, this is authentic, this deserves a Grammy” — that’s everything. It matters today because when the academy nominates a body of work, [like it did] this year [with] Escalona Nunca Se Había Grabado Así, it validates the local musicians who identify with vallenato. There’s a strong message there to all young musicians who want to make a living from music. —AS TOLD TO GRISELDA FLORES

Lecrae

Past wins: Best gospel album (Gravity, 2013), best contemporary Christian music performance/song (“Messengers,” 2015).

Nominated this year: Best contemporary Christian music album (Church Clothes 4), best contemporary Christian music performance/song (“Your Power”).

Lecrae

Lecrae

Artimio Black

Unlike winning an NBA or NFL championship or something along those lines, there’s not a direct correlation between the work you put in and the reward or award. But there is a sense of appreciation from your respected peers who validate the hard work and effort that you put into your art. So it’s really like the highest compliment you can receive for your art from your peers, whether you’re being nominated or being voted for to win. If you’re Michelangelo and have Picasso saying, “Man, that looks amazing…,” that’s a very high form of praise. And that’s what I appreciate the most. —AS TOLD TO GAIL MITCHELL

Rhiannon Giddens

Past wins: Best traditional folk album (Genuine Negro Jig, 2011), best folk album (They’re Calling Me Home, 2022).

Nominated this year: Best Americana album (You’re the One), best American roots performance (“You Louisiana Man”).

Rhiannon Giddens

Rhiannon Giddens

Ebru Yildiz

Winning is amazing because, for the rest of your career, you’re like, “I have a Grammy, and I’m grateful to have won.” I am always holding a banner for what I’m representing, so if you win, it’s like, “We get another chance to talk about [fiddler] Joe Thompson’s music.”

Awards for art are very complicated, and I know I’m not the only one that has complicated feelings about them. On one hand, how do you give awards for something that’s so subjective? [Singer-songwriter] Allison Russell, she’s always clear-minded about the idea of what the Recording Academy is: Ideally, it’s a group of your peers. The Recording Academy has been aggressive in making internal changes that mean more of the diversity that has already existed in our country for a long time is represented in the Grammys. I see all the good work that’s being done while also acknowledging that the whole system is problematic. But it’s the system we have, and people are trying to make it as fair as possible. Saying all of that, it feels good to be regarded by your peers as someone worthy of notice. They are saying, “We see what you’re doing, and we want you to keep doing it.”

It’s hard to say if [my Grammy wins and nominations directly created opportunities for me]. There hasn’t been any kind of “I saw you were nominated or won a Grammy and we’ll give you this.” That almost never happens. I think it’s more of an accumulative effect. In [the] folk and Americana categories, it’s still more back to the basics of who’s coming to see you — not the song that they heard on TikTok. —AS TOLD TO JESSICA NICHOLSON

Alex Lacamoire

Past wins: Best musical show album (In the Heights, 2009), best musical theater album (Hamilton, 2016; Dear Evan Hansen, 2018), best compilation soundtrack for visual media (The Greatest Showman, 2019).

Nominated this year: Best musical theater album (Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street).

Alex Lacamoire

Alex Lacamoire

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I remember being conscious of the Grammys when I was working on Wicked. I played piano on the original cast album, and I remember the Grammy win and being proud, but it was a different thing when Heights was nominated and we eventually won. That show was scrappy in the best way, and here was some shine on it — like, “Oh, wow! People know about us!”

Cast albums in general are vital, particularly because that’s how a lot of people learn about musicals. When you do the math and you take a Broadway house that fits somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 people per performance, there’s only a certain degree of reach you’re going to have. When you record a cast album, suddenly everyone across the world can learn about what you’ve been up to. Most people become familiar with the album before they see the show — case in point was Hamilton. [When] the album came out, the number of people that had seen the show was in the tens of thousands — and then we suddenly make the jump to millions of streams.

The fact that the Grammys acknowledge our medium, it gives more clout to what we do. It says what we do has a place. It makes us feel like we have a home in the community of artists and musicians. What I love about the Grammys is that it’s community-based: It’s voted on by peers, it’s nominated by peers, and that group keeps growing. And working to make the voting base more diverse brings more diversity to the kind of records nominated. Being Cuban-American, working on the things I’ve worked on, that helps put light on things that may not have gotten it before.

Those of us who work in musical theater, we always talk about how we’re a bunch of misfits, we’re laughed at. But we’re strong, we’re resilient, and we’re passionate about what we do. To be welcomed in categories alongside people who are so well known, it gives us a little pep in our step. —AS TOLD TO R.M.

Andrew Watt

Past wins: Producer of the year, non-classical (2021), best rock album (Patient Number 9, 2023).

Nominated this year: Best rock song (“Angry”).

Andrew Watt

Andrew Watt

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I won the producer of the year Grammy during COVID-19, and I was in my own house when I found out. I was just sitting on my couch with a couple of friends, and it was like, “Holy f–king sh-t!” I’m a behind-the-scenes guy, and I’m doing 12- to 15-hour days sometimes, and to be recognized by your peers is just a beautiful thing. It’s not why you do it, but when it happens, it makes your heart full. I don’t care who you are — people say, “I don’t give a f–k about the Grammys,” and that’s OK. But when you win one, it’s the greatest feeling ever.

I woke up this year [after nominations were announced], and it said, “Best rock song: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Andrew Watt.” Like, are you f–king kidding me? Mick and Keith were so excited and happy, too. It’s the coolest thing ever, just to be nominated. Of course you want to win, but it’s great to feel like people took notice of the stuff that you worked so hard on. You don’t make music for people to not hear it! —AS TOLD TO JASON LIPSHUTZ

PJ Morton

Past wins: Best traditional R&B performance (“How Deep Is Your Love,” 2019), best R&B song (“Say So,” 2020), best gospel album (Gospel According to PJ, 2021), album of the year (We Are, 2022).

Nominated this year: Best traditional R&B performance (“Good Morning”).

PJ Morton

PJ Morton

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Years ago, as an independent, I would’ve never been mentioned alongside the names of major artists at the Grammys. But around 2017, with my Gumbo album, the playing field started to even [out]. Now it’s amazing to see more independent artists being nominated. I see Emily King [a current best R&B album nominee] and my friend Kenyon Dixon [also a best traditional R&B performance nominee] — true independents that I’ve watched fight this fight with me. It says a lot about where we are today musically and the efforts the Grammys has made to prioritize craft over sales and radio.

A Grammy still matters because you can’t take sales or the number of hits with you. What stands as a legacy is the art that you made. I got into music for the sake of my friends and girls. (Laughs.) And I think [musicians] are still that adult version of wanting to make things that our friends think are cool. It’s different when your peers vote for you. It’s a beautiful thing; an indicator that you’re at least on the right track.

When Gumbo was nominated [for best R&B album], I was up against Bruno Mars. I had an idea that I might lose. (Laughs.) But the nomination was a gift in disguise. Just my name being mentioned next to Bruno made people [curious] to see who I was. The Grammy thing is still real as far as having an impact on how people view you — and then, in turn, on what you’re able to do as a result of that. —AS TOLD TO G.M.

Juanes

Past wins: Best Latin pop album (La Vida…Es un Ratico, 2009; MTV Unplugged Deluxe Edition, 2013), best Latin rock or alternative album (Origen, 2022).

Nominated this year: Best Latin rock or alternative album (Vida Cotidiana).

Juanes

Juanes

Andrés Sierra

When I won my first Grammy, I was in disbelief. Overwhelmed with joy and gratitude toward the academy, I found myself reminiscing about the long journey to that moment. It was an incredibly beautiful and memorable time. The Grammys not only open doors but also serve as a crucial catalyst in garnering recognition for artists within the industry and among the public. Winning a Grammy has a significant importance because it acknowledges not just an individual, but an entire team whose collaborative efforts bring to life music that resonates with and captivates the audience. It’s more than just songwriting; it involves talented engineers, musicians and many others. The recognition of the collective artistry in an album has become even more vital than in the past. —AS TOLD TO G.F.

Hit-Boy

Past wins: Best rap song (“N—s in ­Paris,” 2013), best rap performance (“Racks in the Middle,” 2020), best rap album (King’s Disease, 2021).

Nominated this year: Producer of the year, non-classical, best rap album (King’s Disease III).

Hit-Boy

Hit-Boy

@warrengee

Winning my first Grammy with Jay-Z and Kanye [West] was something you could only dream about. Listening and studying them before I could even make music myself and [ending] up making a song that impacted all the artists on that level was like, “Damn. You got it. Just keep going.”

“N—s in Paris” was cool, but winning best rap album in 2021 was a different level. That was dope because I made the beats on Nas’ album. King’s Disease was like, “Man, I put a lot more man hours into this than ‘N—s in Paris.’ ” I took it to that next level, but [those wins] all are equally important.

I didn’t expect the producer of the year nomination this year. This year, I did two of my albums, put out a project with my dad, put Nas’ albums [out] and did a couple of one-off joints, but my main primary focus was stuff I could control. The Musiq Soulchild album came out under my imprint. Everything I was doing was everything I owned, put my heart and soul into and invested money in to make these things come to reality. Sometimes, you might be like, “Damn, I’m not on top of Rap Caviar every day; I’m not the top streamer. But I’m still making something that’s having an impact.”

Everybody that’s the top people in music, they’re the ones getting nominated. To be in that conversation alone is ill. —AS TOLD TO C.L.

Tobias Forge (Of Ghost)

Past wins: Best metal performance (“Cirice,” 2016).

Nominated this year: Best metal performance (“Phantom of the Opera”).

Tobias Forge of Ghost

Tobias Forge (of Ghost)

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When you’re working with art, you normally do not have a whole lot of the sort of moments that you have within sports. In sports, the win is very momentary: Either you win or you lose. Whereas an artistic career is usually over the course of time. Even if you’re somewhat successful as an artist, it’s very, very rarely happening overnight. When you’re nominated for awards, that’s the closest you can get [as an artist] to that “One second ago, I didn’t have it, and now I have it.” [Winning a Grammy] is one of the few moments I’ve had throughout my professional career where I really felt [how things] could have felt very different had I not achieved what happened 10 seconds ago. The rings on the water meant a lot of things professionally in terms of quote-unquote “being taken seriously.”

Radio, promoters — if you for some reason might be looking for a new label — all of a sudden, when you’re nominated, it’s a stamp of approval that will automatically make potential collaborators, partners, what have you, give you more chances. That is not to say that you can come in and be a dick. You just automatically get a bit more of a gravitas in maneuvering within the different aspects of your career in a way that you might not have, had you not had the stamp of approval of getting a Grammy nomination — or, even better, winning it. But as with most things, what you’re getting is a bag of tools. And you can choose not to use them. Over the course of many, many decades of artists getting awards, there are many that have gotten an accolade and then just faded into nothingness. Because it’s all about momentum. You should see it as a steppingstone. It’s part of your journey, not the end of it. —AS TOLD TO ERIC RENNER BROWN

Dan Nigro

Past wins: Best pop vocal album (Sour, 2022).

Nominated this year: Producer of the year, non-classical; album of the year (Guts), record of the year (“vampire”), song of the year (“vampire”), best rock song (“ballad of a homeschooled girl”).

Dan Nigro

Dan Nigro

Shervin Lainez

When I was playing in a band, and in the beginning of my songwriting-production career, winning a Grammy seemed like such an unattainable thing. So it didn’t necessarily hold importance [to me], mainly because I never thought I would be nominated for one, let alone win one! But in 2014, my friend Ariel [Rechtshaid] was nominated for producer of the year, and I remember being so excited that someone I worked so closely with was nominated. I think it was in that moment that I realized that a Grammy was something I could actually have a shot at being nominated for.

[Winning] holds a great amount of significance mainly because it’s based on voting by my peers in the music community and not simply on stats alone, which a lot of awards nowadays are. That’s a critical element [of] these awards that others don’t have [that] helps make it feel even more special. —AS TOLD TO R.M.

Arooj Aftab

Past wins: Best global music performance (“Mohabbat,” 2022).

Nominated this year: Best global music performance (“Shadow Forces”), best alternative jazz album (Love in Exile).

Arooj Aftab

Arooj Aftab

Ebru Yildiz

[Musicians] work hard, and we’re really sensitive people. It’s really difficult to translate the state of the world and the current human condition into this thing that is music that holds so much of people’s emotions together. The Grammys are important because they give you this giant accolade for that. It’s a really special thing to be there among all your peers, to be nominated among incredible albums, to even submit among everybody and then to perhaps win. It’s a beautiful thing.

Since I won, when somebody’s introducing me before a performance or if it’s on a prospectus or any type of thing, it now says, “Grammy Award-winning artist Arooj Aftab.” Whether it’s a performing arts center programmer or it’s a festival programmer or it’s grant organizations or just the audience as a whole, and even musician peers, it has had a very significant impact. There has been an undeniable shift since I won. What that means? I’m not sure. (Laughs.) But what I can say is that it definitely does something — something positive.

It opens you up to an audience that may not have otherwise found your record. I always watch the [Academy Award]-nominated animated shorts because I don’t really know about that [area of film] that much. There are people who like music in that way and are like, “OK, I’m going to check out all the Grammy-nominated albums in this new jazz category that I like.”

It’s thrilling; it’s the highest accolade of music. At the end of the day, it’s awesome to win a Grammy — it really just is. —AS TOLD TO E.R.B.

Michael Romanowski

Past wins: Best immersive audio album (Soundtrack of the American Soldier, 2021; Alicia, 2022), best engineered album, classical (Chanticleer Sings Christmas, 2022; Bates: Philharmonia Fantastique – The Making of the Orchestra, 2023).

Nominated this year: Best immersive audio album (multiple category nominations): God of War Ragnarök (Original Soundtrack), The Diary of Alicia Keys, Blue Clear Sky, Act 3 (Immersive Edition).

Michael Romanowski

Michael Romanowski

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The Grammys are the only peer award in music. They are voted on only by people who are currently active in the music community, and I think that’s huge. It meant the world to me to be nominated and feel like a peer in a very overwhelming industry…

I’ll be honest: [Since winning] my business hasn’t really changed, more or less. I’m busy. I’m a workaholic. I keep doing records. I love the people I’m working with, and I get to work with some amazing folks and heroes. The fact that I get to continue to do that work is all that matters to me. I didn’t change my rates, and I didn’t farm out the work to somebody else… I still believe very, very much in handcrafted-ness and doing it myself. That’s my reputation and my name, so [winning a Grammy] hasn’t changed my business in a time or dollar sense. What it has changed is my perception. The perception of me being a peer. The perception of me being an authority figure or someone that makes a difference in this world and is known. It is very powerful and moving. —AS TOLD TO KRISTIN ROBINSON

Jason Isbell

Past wins: Best Americana album (Something More Than Free, 2016; The Nashville Sound, 2018), best American roots song (“24 Frames,” 2016; “If We Were Vampires,” 2018).

Nominated this year: Best Americana album (Weathervanes), best American roots song (“Cast Iron Skillet”), best Americana performance (“King of Oklahoma”).

Jason Isbell

Jason Isbell

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I was certainly honored and very much surprised [when I won my first Grammy]. When I was a kid, I dreamed of winning a Grammy, but as I got older, I started to see the music I made as more of a boutique style. For a while there, I truly didn’t believe it would be possible for an artist like me to have mainstream appeal. The first Grammy wins gave me some hope that there might be more space for my kind of music than I had previously thought.

There’s certainly some sense of validation that comes with winning Grammy awards, and I have no doubt it’s caused my audience to grow. Also, it gives you something to say to the person sitting next to you on a plane when they ask, “Have I ever heard any of your songs?” More importantly though, it gave me more confidence to continue down the path of independence and make the music I want to make. It’s really nice when you do it your way and it pays off.

To be honest with you, I think the Grammys do a better job of being inclusive and open-minded than the other major award shows. The playing field still isn’t level by any means, but when it comes time to make nominations and give out the trophies, I prefer the Recording Academy’s methods and decisions over those of similar organizations. —AS TOLD TO E.R.B.

This story will appear in the Dec. 16, 2023, issue of Billboard.

Conversations With Every Best African Music Performance Nominee on Making History Together

After Harvey Mason Jr. embarked on a series of trips to Africa in 2022 that were “guided by curiosity,” the Recording Academy CEO and the organization at large were determined to become an “effective collaborator” for the creative communities across the continent. The first step arrived this year, when the category of best African music performance was unveiled. “Artists throughout the U.S., Africa and worldwide see this as a pivotal acknowledgment by the academy that African music has achieved extraordinary impact [and] influence throughout the globe,” chief awards and industry officer Ruby Marchand says. The academy’s African music genre manager, Shawn Thwaites, agrees, noting that the addition not only reflects the current music landscape but also “Africa’s profound influence on music history.” As Mason says, it is “the beginning of our journey to serve global music creators even more ambitiously.”

Here, each of the nominees discuss the historic new category — and what it means for African music’s future.



How did you feel when you heard about the new best African music performance category?

Asake: I felt excited and grateful at the same time because African music and traditions have been a direct influence on the world for far too long to not have its own category. It is a great moment to be a part of.

What was your reaction to your collaboration, “Amapiano,” being nominated?

Olamide: Watching all the hard work pay off after our team has dominated the African continent and the world over the years is a blessing and a huge win already.

What do you think of this first class of nominees?

Asake: It is a brilliant, diverse and very necessary first class of nominees. Thank you to the team at the Recording Academy for coming up with this and giving us the reach we deserve.

How do you think this first year of the category will positively affect the industry?

Asake: Every young artist coming up out there can now relate to the fact that their dreams are valid and can now be showcased on the biggest stage in music.

Olamide: The category will greatly impact the industry. African music has exploded globally over the years and will now be exposed on a large scale to the rest of the world.



How did you feel when you heard about the new best African music performance category?

It’s a significant milestone, not only for me, but for the entire African music industry. It’s a testament to the global recognition and appreciation of the diverse and rich musical traditions coming out of Africa, which I am a part of. This category symbolizes a bridge connecting the world to our continent. [It is] something I have believed in and pushed for, so I couldn’t be prouder to see it come to fruition.

What is it like to be nominated in the category’s historic first class?

It’s an immense honor. It’s like being part of history in the making. This category represents a platform for the incredible diversity and talent within the landscape of African music. It’s a moment of celebration for every African artist who has contributed to our vibrant music scene.

How do you think this first year of the category will positively affect the industry?

[It] is a game-changer for African musicians. It opens up a new world of opportunities for African artists to gain global recognition and reach wider audiences. It will also encourage more collaborations and cultural exchanges within the music industry. This category not only celebrates African talent but also fosters a sense of pride and achievement within the community. It certainly makes the Grammys more accessible to African artists.



How did you react to “Unavailable,” which features Musa Keys, being nominated?

I was so happy. I feel like this moment was a long time coming for me, and I’m extremely grateful.

How does it feel to not only be nominated but be included in the category’s historic first class?

It feels like further breaking the glass ceiling into the mainstream. Step by step, African influences and artists are getting more shine within the industry, and this feels like another win toward being acknowledged. To be a part of this historic moment is an honor.

What do you think of this first class of nominees?

I think it’s a well-curated group. Obviously, there’s so much talent in the African music community and definitely some other names I’d include, but I look forward to seeing future nominees in this category. And hopefully, more categories specifically for African music will be created in the future, too. This first year will definitely set the tone.



How did you feel when you heard about the new best African music performance category?

I was quite elated because it shows inclusivity. Beyond being African artists, this category shows that the world is watching and seeing the effort we put in and does not mind giving us our flowers to smell.

How does it feel to not only be nominated for “Rush” but be represented in this category’s historic first class?

It feels iconic. To be doing this at 21? Whew! [It’s so] mind-blowing for me that I sometimes have to pinch myself that it’s all real and I’m not dreaming.

What do you think of this first class of nominees?

I think everyone in this category is badass, and I can only imagine the amount of tough work it took to put together these incredible artists in a category, all truly amazing artists I look up to and I’m proud to be nominated alongside.



How did you feel when you heard about the new best African music performance category?

Hearing about the new category was very exciting because growing up, I watched the Grammys every year and watched all my favorite artists get awarded and nominated. It was something that I always imagined, and now that there’s a whole category dedicated to African artists, it means so much. I feel like it’s going to open so many more doors for us African artists and introduce our sound and artists to the world.

What is it like to not only be nominated but be included in this category’s first class?

Being nominated for a Grammy is such an honor, but the fact that I’m nominated for the first time in a category that’s an African category [in the year it has] been introduced, I couldn’t have asked for a better moment. I just feel super blessed, happy and excited to attend and enjoy the evening no matter what the outcome is. It’s such a huge moment for Africa, and I’m so happy I get to be a part of it.

Whom will you bring to the Grammys?

You know me. If I could, I would bring all of South Africa — but I’m sure my mama and papa will be there.

This story will appear in the Dec. 16, 2023, issue of Billboard.

‘Hello, Gorgeous’: 22 Times Barbra Streisand Made Awards Show History

The Screen Actors Guild’s Life Achievement Award joins a long list of major honors.

Barbra Streisand had one of the best opening lines ever for an awards acceptance speech when she won her first Oscar for Funny Girl in April 1969. Gazing at the golden statue, she repeated her memorable line from the musical-turned-film, “Hello, gorgeous.”

Today’s announcement that Streisand will receive the life achievement award at the Screen Actors Guild Awards on Feb. 24 is just the latest affirmation of the performer’s talent and success.

Streisand is a GOAT, an icon and a legend. While she isn’t officially an EGOT – she has yet to win a Tony in competition – she has won just about every other award an entertainer can win.

She was nominated for a Tony for her first Broadway show, I Can Get It for You Wholesale, but lost to Phyllis Newman in Subways Are for Sleeping. Streisand won the other three EGOT awards with her first major projects. She won two Grammys for her first album, an Emmy for her first TV special and an Oscar for her first film.

Streisand, who recently talked to Billboard’s Joe Lynch about her long-awaited memoir My Name Is Barbra, set a high bar for all who followed. Many of today’s top stars seem well aware of that fact. Beyoncé said, “It’s an honor to sing for you, Miss Streisand,” after singing “The Way We Were” when Streisand received the Kennedy Center Honors in 2008. Ariana Grande said “I love you so much, thank you so much,” following a duet performance of “No More Tears (Enough Is Enough)” at a Streisand concert in Chicago in 2019. Madonna did a playful “we’re not worthy” gesture of respect when Streisand surprised her, Mike Myers and Roseanne Barr at the end of a Saturday Night Live sketch in 1992.

Here are 22 times Streisand made awards show history.

Feid’s ‘Ferxxocalipsis’ Debuts in Top 10 on Top Latin Albums Chart

Just two months after Feid’s Mor, No Le Temas a La Oscuridad debuted at No. 4 on Billboard’s Top Latin Albums chart, the Colombian returns to the top tier with Ferxxocalipsis arriving at No. 9 on the Dec. 16-dated list.

The 10-track set was a surprise release announced Nov. 29 on his Instagram account, a day ahead of its Dec. 1 drop via Universal Music Latino/UMLE.

Ferxxocalipsis starts with 11,000 equivalent album units, earned in the U.S. in the week ending Dec. 7, according to Luminate. As with most of Feid’s album releases, streaming contributes the majority of the 10-track album’s first week total. That sum equals to 15 million official on-demand streams of the album’s songs.

With Ferxxocalipsis’ new top 10 debut, Feid scores his third top 10 chart visit. His first top 10, Feliz Cumpleaños Ferxxo: Te Pirateamos El Álbum, launched at No. 6 with 3,000 units in September 2022. Plus, as mentioned, Mor started at No. 4 with 20,000 units last October.

The new achievement cements Ferxxo as the new urban fighter with at least three top 10 sets on Top Latin Albums this decade; a list with Karol G as the only female representation. Let’s review the list of winners:

Artist, Top 10s:

  • Bad Bunny, 8
  • Ozuna, 7
  • Rauw Alejandro, 6
  • Anuel AA, 4
  • Arcangel, 4
  • Mora, 4
  • Myke Towers, 4
  • J Balvin, 3
  • Feid, 3
  • Karol G, 3

It’s not rare for Ferxxo to duplicate releases in a year. Since Ferxxo: Vol. 1 M.O.R. (2020), he’s secured two entries on Top Latin Albums in 2020, 2022 and now 2023, with Inter Shibuya: La Mafia the only effort to debut on the tally in 2021.

Elsewhere, Ferxxocalipsis debuts at No. 5 on Latin Rhythm Albums, matching Feliz Cumpleaños Ferxxo’s No. 5 peak (October 2022).

Taylor Swift Looks Bejeweled on 34th Birthday Night Out With Blake Lively, Miles Teller & Keleigh Sperry

Taylor Swift is still making the whole place shimmer at 34. Fully embodying the lyrics of her Midnights single “Bejeweled,” the pop star celebrated her birthday Wednesday night (Dec. 13) by stepping out in a sparkly outfit, accompanied by friends Blake Lively, Miles Teller and his wife, actress-model Keleigh Sperry. 

Dressed in a black Clio Peppiatt cocktail dress decked out with silver crescent moon and star designs, which she paired with sky-high black heels and a furry coat, the musician spent her birthday night at The Box nightclub in Manhattan. She and Lively held hands as they arrived at the venue. Swift left the club holding hands with Sperry, who linked arms with the Top Gun: Maverick star on her other side. The couple also spent the night prior to Swift’s birthday with the 12-time Grammy winner at Zero Bond in New York City, an outing also attended by Selena Gomez. 

And for those wondering – no, Travis Kelce was not seen at the “Anti-Hero” singer’s birthday festivities. Swift’s football star boyfriend reportedly had to stay back in Kansas City for a mandatory Chiefs practice on the night of her 34th.  

The morning of her birthday, Swift rang in the special occasion with an Instagram post promoting the release of her extended Eras Tour concert film on streaming services, making it available to rent or purchase. “I had the time of my life fighting dragons with youuuu,” she wrote. “PS troll me all you want about my excessive and literal millennial emoji use but A) no one’s prouder to be a millennial and B) it’s my bday and today I am exempt! ?”  

See photos from Swift’s birthday bash with Lively and the Tellers below: 

Taylor Swift, Keleigh Sperry and Miles Teller

Taylor Swift, Keleigh Sperry and Miles Teller leave The Box after celebrating Taylor’s 34th birthday on Dec. 14, 2023 in New York City.

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Blake Lively and Taylor Swift

Blake Lively and Taylor Swift are seen arriving at ‘The Box’ on Dec. 13, 2023 in New York, New York.

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The Cisco Kid & Lowriders: How War’s Exploratory Sound Connected with Chicano Culture 

In the ’70s funk era, War’s pan-Latin percussion, swaggering guitar solos and soulful rhythms catapulted them to the zenith of musical popularity. While their impact extended beyond the airwaves, it also deeply resonated with Southern California’s POC families. The groovy rhythms of War, inspired by the fusion sound of Fania All Stars and more — became the soundtrack to the carne asada backyard parties and barbecue grill gatherings for many residents of the region and beyond.

Now, half a century later, the California jam band stands just as fabulous, celebrating their golden anniversary of their iconic album The World is a Ghetto, a record that claimed the No. 1 spot on both the Billboard 200 and Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums charts in 1973.

One of the band’s charting singles, “The Cisco Kid,” climbed to No. 2 on the Hot 100. The song unfurls as an homage to an unlikely Mexican antihero turned freedom fighter, inspired by a television hit series from the 1950s. “The thing is, there were not a lot of ethnic heroes on television back then,” War founding member/musician Leroy “Lonnie” Jordan tells Billboard Español. “He was the biggest non-Anglo hero,” echoes producer Jerry Goldstein, emphasizing the groundbreaking nature of this representation.  

As the group reflects on their five-decade journey, they delve into the creation of other iconic tracks like “Spill the Wine” (1970), with Eric Burdon, and “Low Rider” (1975). The latter — which reached No. 7 on the Hot 100 — pays homage to Southern California car clubs in the barrio, becoming synonymous with cholo culture. “Living in East L.A., Compton, Watts and Harbor City, Chicanos and blacks shared one thing: lowriders,” adds Jordan. 

“Low Rider,” in fact, made numerous appearances in film and TV, like the Cheech and Chong 1978 classic Up In Smoke, about the misadventures of two stoner Mexican-American friends, Colors (1988), about gang violence in East L.A., Friday (1995) with Ice Cube, and even the intro song to the George Lopez TV show, which ran for most of the 2000s.

In celebration of their 50th anniversary since topping the Billboard charts, Goldstein and Jordan take us back to their original recording sessions in this brief oral history.

Eric Burdon Declares War

Jerry Goldstein: We started as Eric Burdon and War, and Lonnie [Jordan] was in a band called Nightshift. Eric came into my office, [saying] he was giving up on the music business because his last group The Animals broke up, and he was going back to Newcastle, [England]. I said to him, “There’s this band [War] that I’ve been listening to and trying to work with, but I don’t know what to do with them.” The way they talk to each other in the studio, it’s kind of their own language. It was more street rather than musician to musician. Every [War member] was different from the other one. They had a Latin version of [the Rolling Stones’] “Paint It, Black” that was amazing. I scratched my head and went, “I’ll book it! I’ll just book a week at a time and they can just rehearse.” 

Chris Huston, recording engineer, and Jerry-Goldstein, producer.

Chris Huston, recording engineer, and Jerry Goldstein, producer.

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Lonnie Jordan: Every individual in the band brought a different style to the table. We’re talking blues, Latin, ska, funk, jazz, gospel, classical. It was all one big salad bowl. That’s one of the reasons why Jerry didn’t know what to do with us. We didn’t even understand what we were doing, we just did it from our hearts, ears, eyes, mind, and soul. I have so much love for salsa. Back in the day, you had Fania All Stars’ Eddie Palmieri, Charlie Brown, [Jerry, Pete “El Conde”] Rodriguez, Hector Lavoe, the list goes on. And I said, “Wait a minute, let’s fuse this [style] into the studio and lay down the tracks.” I wanted to do something different, instead of just a piano to simulate what everyone else does when they play salsa.

Goldstein: I told Eric to come on down to hear this band and said [to him], “Let me know what you think, because I think this might work for you.” Eric showed up, I showed up, and [Danish harmonica player] Lee Oskar showed up — because Lee was living in Eric’s house, or sleeping on the couch. The group did their thing with Deacon Jones, and at the end of the set, Lee Oskar got up and started to jam with them. The next day I called Eric and I said, “What do you think of the band?” He said, “We’re rehearsing today at 3:00.” The first gig was in San Bernardino, the Devonshire Downs Pop Festival, with 100,000 people, including Jimi Hendrix [on the lineup] and every major star in the world. We followed Creedence Clearwater [Revival]. That was the beginning of Eric Burdon and War.

“Spill the Wine”

WAR in the studio

WAR en el estudio

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Jordan: We weren’t studio musicians. We were a street organic jam band. We didn’t even know what a studio was. We went into this beautiful room with all these buttons and felt like I was in Star Trek and a spaceship. Once we were in the studio a lot [more], then that’s when we started doing a lot of our writing along with our jam-out [sessions]. We’ve made the studio our home… And that’s why the wine got spilt, because that was [also] our kitchen, for food and liquor. Let me clarify that kitchen part.

Goldstein: I finally built a remote truck to record them every night. They were the original jam band. It was a different set every night. They had a few blues, “Paint It Black,” “Tobacco Road,” etc. About six months to a year later [after forming the full band], we went into the studio to make [the 1970 debut] Eric Burdon Declares War album. Lonnie had a glass of wine, and he put it on the console where the playback system was. He knocked it over and didn’t tell anybody. About 20 minutes later, the studio’s crackling and popping and shuts down. “What the hell’s going on?!” Then we found out that Lonnie inadvertently knocked the glass of wine into the playback system. The studio was done. So they put us in another studio, and we just wrote, “Spill the Wine.” That’s why “Spill the Wine” has such a live vibe to it. 

“The Cisco Kid”

WAR with The Cisco Kid, Duncan Renaldo

WAR with Mexican-American actor Duncan Renaldo, famously known as The Cisco Kid.

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Jordan: Duncan Renaldo played in the [1950s] series called The Cisco Kid, and Leo Carrillo played Poncho. He was Cisco Kid’s sidekick. The thing is, there were not a lot of ethnic heroes on television back then. We’re talking about television that was still black and white, not color. [The protagonist] the Cisco Kid, first of all, was dressed to kill, and he had a horse that was dressed to kill. For me, that was like a lowrider car, you know? He’s like a bandit, he takes care of his people, and he’s doing it safely and for the love of the people. He’s a superhero in the community. 

Goldstein: He was the biggest non-Anglo hero. That’s why the lyric goes, “The Cisco Kid was a friend of mine.” The nice part about it is when we finished it was that we actually got to meet [Renaldo] and spent an afternoon with him in Santa Barbara where he lived. He was an old man at the time, but he was so nice. It was such a nice afternoon. That turned us on to the whole Latin audience in places like El Paso — when we played there, we got more pesos than dollars at the box office. No kidding. People would come over the border for the show and then go home.



“Low Rider”

Jordan: Living in East L.A., Compton, Watts, and Harbor City, Chicanos and blacks shared one thing: lowriders. After coming out of the era of the in-crowd with nice metal flake cars and hot rodders, the lowriders [arrived]. The Imperials and the Dukes [were] rival car clubs, not gangs, but car clubs. They never really socialized with one another. So when we did that song, it brought the Imperials and the Dukes together as one. We gave them the first cassette before it came out on the radio. From that point and on, that song went all the way from the West Coast to Chicago and New York, and all the way to Japan and Germany — around the world! Actually, lowriders are around the world now.

Goldstein: There’s a lowrider club in Japan. When we were on tour, we used to have the screen behind us, and when we played “Low Rider,” we showed the lowriders. The cars bouncing up and down and hopping and exposing the whole culture to the world — including the rest of the United States that didn’t even know what we were talking about. 



The World is a Ghetto

Jordan: As a musician, I want people to continually understand from our point of view. When we first pretty much conceived this [music] was that through our eyes we see the whole world as one. In other words, you can live in Beverly Hills and have a flat tire and be in the wrong place at the wrong time, as well as having a roach in your house or in your backyard, like anyone in the hood could have. We all live under the same sky, the same smog, the same problems. The world is a ghetto…and we’re all looking for love and a place to call home.

WAR circa 1973

WAR circa 1973

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Watch ‘Merrily We Roll Along’ Stars Daniel Radcliffe, Jonathan Groff & Lindsay Mendez Sing ‘Old Friends’ From New Cast Album

Since its Broadway premiere in 1981, Stephen Sondheim‘s Merrily We Roll Along has been struggling to, well, get back to Broadway.

The musical about 20 years of friendship between composer Franklin Shepard, lyricist Charley Kringas and writer Mary Flynn — which unfolds onstage in reverse chronological order, starting when that friendship has dissolved and all three are jaded shadows of their former selves — famously ran for just 16 performances and 44 previews in its original production. Over the years since, several prominent productions have attempted to solve what many considered the show’s inherent problems, and in that time, it’s also become one of Sondheim’s most beloved shows (and scores), a musical fan’s musical.

Now, Merrily has finally made that long-awaited return to Broadway, in an acclaimed production directed by Maria Friedman that critics have unanimously deemed the one the show always deserved. A second extension of its limited engagement at the Hudson Theatre was just announced (through July 7, 2024), and ticket sales have smashed its theater‘s record seven times. And the show’s success owes a great deal to the joyous chemistry between its three leads: Jonathan Groff as Shepard, Daniel Radcliffe as Kringas and Lindsay Mendez as Flynn.

The trio’s vocal talents can be heard on the new Merrily cast recording, streaming now and available on physical CD on Jan. 12 (via Sony Masterworks Broadway). Below, Billboard exclusively premieres a music video of them performing one of the musical’s central songs, “Old Friends.”



Jelly Roll Determined to ‘Do Everything I Could to Give Back’ After Finding ‘Peace’ With Relationship to Alcohol and Drugs

Since the age of 14, Jelly Roll has been in jail upwards of 40 times on a variety of drug charges. But the 39-year-old “Save Me” singer (born Jason DeFord) told People that before he became a best new artist Grammy nominee and landed three No. 1 country chart hits he realized he needed to make some serious changes in his drinking and drug-taking.

“I had to learn that you could drink alcohol without doing cocaine. It took me a long time to learn that,” he told the magazine. “I’ve never said that, but that’s real. There was a long time where I just assumed, when people told me they drank without doing cocaine, I was like, I thought we only drank to do cocaine.”

That complicated substance tangle continued to be challenging once Jelly tried to figure out his relationship with alcohol outside of drugs; he said that he “never really had a problem with alcohol” and still has the occasional cocktail, even as he tries to stay away from drugs. “I thought [drinking] was to make us not feel like drug addicts. Nobody wants to snort cocaine sober, then you’re a drug addict,” he said. “But I had to re-look at my relationship with alcohol like that.”

And though it sounds like he was able to get those vices under control without the help of rehab, Jelly said that stark wake-up call inspired him to spend his downtime on the road visiting facilities across the country and delivering warm meals while playing a few songs to “do a little encouraging” for those in recovery and youth in juvenile centers.

“I always said that if I ever got in this situation, I would do everything I could to give back,” he said. “The fact that just me showing up places can make people happy is such a gift, and I feel like if God gave me that gift, I should show up.”

While he does still drink a bit and smoke some weed, Jelly said he also drops in on meetings from time-to-time if he’s struggling with his thought patterns. “I just, out of an abundance of respect for the people who really got off the drugs completely, and the alcohol and the weed, I don’t necessarily claim to be a part of the program, because I respect their work and I would never want to diminish it with some of my actions, but AA has done a lot for me,” he said.