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With October just starting, it’s already been a busy month for new music. To kick things off, LISA dropped “Moonlit Floor,” after she debuted it live at Global Citizen Fest last month. The song interpolates Sixpence None the Richer‘s hit “Kiss Me,” which reached No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1998. The single was on […]

Jaden Smith is on a “rainbow swag mission,” three years since he’s released any solo music, as his recent sorrow pushed him back to the studio.
“Roses” kicked off Smith’s next era in June and he followed that up with “D.U.M.B.” on Friday (Oct. 4). Short for “Deep Underground Military Base” and built around a hypnotic chorus, Smith gets candid about his disdain for hurting those around him while trying to navigate love and manage his relationships in the digital era.

Smith will release another two songs on Oct. 18 with “Gorgeous,” a pop-leaning love letter to women, and “The Coolest Part 2,” a sequel to his signature 2012 track. The four-pack will be packaged as 2024: A Case Study on the Long Term Effects of Young Love, his first project since 2020’s CTV3: Cool Tape Vol. 3 (he released a deluxe in 2021). The vulnerable, genre-blending EP will explore “young love and really just the mental landscape of young people right now dealing in a world with social media,” according to the 26-year-old multi-hyphenate.

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Smith’s relationship with model-singer Sab Zada has been the subject of plenty of social media chatter and tabloid fodder in recent months. Instead of responding to rumors surrounding his love life, however, Smith has elected to turn to music. “I don’t need to convince people of stuff as far as what’s going on with me in the world and I just put it in my music with how I feel and my experiences of what I’m going through,” he tells Billboard on a video call while walking around the woods of France as he’s in town for Paris Fashion Week.

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Check out the rest of our interview with Jaden Smith as he details his upcoming mini-project, young love, his plastic furniture company and more.

Billboard: What’s inspiring you creatively these days?

Jaden Smith: Honestly, I’m so sad that it’s put me into a corner where I can’t do anything besides make music. That’s why I decided to release this next project. I kind of found my inspiration in making these mini-projects that are a couple of songs and I think kind of just put off a vibe and gets people like, “Dog, I really like this mini-pocket where he’s catching a very specific vibe for like four songs.” Then kind of moving on. 

A Case Study on the Long-Term Effects of Young Love. Explain to me that title and how tough it is to put your relationship into music?

It’s just about the case study of young love and really just the mental landscape of young people right now dealing in a world with social media, dealing in a world with internet and how that changes mental health and what people are talking about doing and feeling. How that psychologically affects people long-term in ways that it didn’t past generations, because we didn’t have the technology, access to the world that we have. It’s a snapshot of that for myself. 

What was your recording process with these songs?

Very long-term — songs I’ve been working on for other albums that didn’t make it and needed more time to figure out exactly what I wanted to do. This has been over the course of three or four years. Literally, the process is me f–king crying in the studio, and then like, singing in between when I can make words happen. That’s really the process. I’m going through emotional things, dealing with those experiences and feeling overwhelmed. Like I don’t know what to do, but that’s when I get into the studio. 

So this is a good creative outlet for you.

Yeah, and my fans are people who go through these extremely emotional situations. Emotional people tend to like my music. That’s who I do it for. 

What have you learned about young love?

That it hurts in stages, and then it’s very serious. If it’s something that lasts a long time, it can create long-term psychological effects and defects in people when they go through adulthood, then goes on to affect their generation and families. It’s just a topic of something I wanted to bring up. Every time you make a song title and an album title, you have the opportunity to bring up a topic and think about something and pop an idea into people’s minds, and that’s what I wanted to pop into people’s minds this go-around. 

Is it tough when so many people can comment on your relationships and everything you have going on, even if it’s not true? How you can push back against that?

It’s not even so much you have to push back against it as much as you just have to deal with it. The way I deal with it is by making music. I don’t need to convince people of stuff as far as what’s going on with me in the world and I just put it in my music with how I feel and my experiences of what I’m going through. 

In an older interview, I saw you explain how you try to tell your story without straying toward anything that could be considered misogynistic lyrics. Is that something you have to battle?

Yeah, that’s a current battle that I’m battling with myself. I just don’t like to say certain words that I don’t feel are useful for me personally. Not that I don’t like to say it, I say all different types of things in my normal life, but I just don’t like to rap it, because I know that everybody’s listening and my mom and my sister and everybody don’t say s–t. It’s a growing battle.

In the process of me making this album, this is the first time that I’ve ever gone out of my way to have girls in my music video in a way that makes sense for me and a way that I would do it, because I would always get wrapped up in the way everybody else does stuff. Now I’m starting to find the way I want to do it. I’m going through a thing, a time and a moment with me right now. I don’t even know what it is, but I feel it in the world even when I walk outside. I’m just trying to put whatever’s happening with me into the music. 

I saw when you announced the project it was on your dad’s birthday. Was there anything to that?

No, I didn’t realize that. I probably should’ve thought about that.

Have you played the music for any of your family members? Is that a typical practice for you?

I have played them the songs. I usually don’t play them the music. 

Let’s start with “D.U.M.B.,” which was my favorite. What was your process with that one?

That s–t is super duper old. I’m rapping about s–t that happened long ago. I went in there and I made it. I just be rapping sometimes, man. Sometimes it makes sense and I was like, “Oh, the concept of this song makes sense.” Sometimes you just receive it and it’s like, “This is already a song. All I have to do is rap on this.” It’s amazing. Sometimes you gotta really think hard and sometimes they come to you straight away. That’s what was happening with me. 

“Gorgeous” is another track coming.

I wanted to make a pop song. It’s really just about my love for the opposite sex, my love for women and how that has evolved to where I am now in my life. That’s my love letter to the opposite sex and all women around the world. 

What made you want to do a sequel to “The Coolest?”

I just had to remind everybody because they’ll forget. Then they’ll meet me and be like, “Yo, what the hell is this?” Remind everybody again — that’s what that was. That song’s so old. I’m glad to be back at it. It’s an awesome experience. I’m just trying to master my own mind. I’m trying to have less thoughts. I’m trying to master my thoughts. 

How was working with your dad and Russ on “Work of Art”?

That was fun to do. That was tight. It was fun to perform. That was an amazing experience. 

Do you have any goals for the rest of the year?

Yeah, I’m trying to get this recycled plastic furniture company off the ground. A circular economy for used trash to produce park benches or I think drywall is probably the best. Using old clothes and denim as insulation. Recycling clothes through the circular economy. Companies — that’s my biggest thing. That’s what a lot of my raps are about. Circular economy, recycling plastic.

I read you go to the movies a lot by yourself. Is that something you’re still doing?

I watch everything. I watched Beetlejuice Beetlejuice but I watch everything. Every single movie that comes into the theaters. 

Is this going to develop into an album?

After I release this mini-project, I’m on a swag mission. I’m on a rainbow swag mission and I’m just trekking through. Wherever the mission takes — that’s where I’ll be. If I get this plastic furniture company off the ground, I have no idea what happens next. It all depends where the wind blows, how sad I am. 

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Cardi B and Offset aren’t getting back together. At least, according to Cardi.
While speaking on X Spaces, the Bronx rapper felt the need to get some things off her chest as she and her estranged husband, Migos rapper Offset, head toward divorce for a second time. She responded to fans making a big deal about Offset being at her studio recently. “Slowly but surely, everybody gotta go their separate ways,” she said. “My kids gotta get used to that, ‘No, you’re not going to come home every single day and your dad is gonna be here.’ Slowly, but surely.”

She continued: “It’s kinda hard — I don’t wanna talk about it ’cause I don’t wanna get emotional — but it’s kinda hard, as an adult, you gonna get used to a certain type of lifestyle without being with somebody. But it’s also kinda hard for your kids to get used to that, ‘Your dad is not going to be here with you every day after school. Your dad is not going to be picking you up after school.’”

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The Billboard Hot 100-topping rapper also spoke on making sure Offset would remain in the kids’ lives. “I want my baby to know who their dad is because I don’t ever want my little baby to get used to my dad or my cousin. I want them to be like, ‘This is your dad.’” She then touched on how she wants to try to keep things platonic because their relationship has been tumultuous, saying, “One thing I don’t want to entertain is, ‘Oh, we’re in the same crib. Come upstairs, let’s sleep together.’ I don’t want to entertain that. I don’t want to sleep, I don’t want to f—k, I don’t wanna do nothin’.”

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Adding, “Because that’s what keeps us being in the same trap. Oh, we sleep together, we cuddling, the next day we smiling and then guess what? The same day we’re arguing, and we’re back in that cycle. I don’t want that cycle. That’s why I’m not entertaining love. That’s why if a muthaf—a is here, I’m not here. If I’m here, he’s not here. Slowly but surely, there’s going to be a whole end to it. It takes time. I don’t know how to explain it but everything is dead.”

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Last week, the couple made some of their issues public with Offset accusing Cardi of cheating on him while she was pregnant. This led to Cardi going on an epic rant and exposing text messages between herself and the Atlanta rapper. However, it seems like things have simmered down since for the power couple.

Teasing “exclusive releases, immersive experiences, engaging discussions and insane performances,” Travis Scott is quadrupling down on his role as artistic director of the forthcoming ComplexCon Las Vegas on Nov. 16 and 17. He will create CactusCon at the inaugural Vegas iteration of ComplexCon, the festival and exhibition dedicated to “convergence culture” at the intersection of style, music, art and food.
Scott and Cactus Jack, his creative collective and record label, will produce 10 exclusive collaborations for ComplexCon, design exclusive merch only sold on site and curate an entire area of the show floor called CactusCon, with hand-selected brands. CactusCon will infuse Scott’s vision and Cactus Jack iconography into sensory touch points and “Easter eggs” throughout the two-day event. Scott will also headline the festival and exhibition on Sunday evening with a performance at the Las Vegas Convention Center. 

Scott performed at ComplexCon’s Long Beach launch in 2016. Since then, the weekender celebrating the convergence of style, sneakers, pop culture, music, art, food, innovation and the creative minds shaping those trends has traversed the globe with conventions in Chicago (2019) and Hong Kong (2024). Relocating to Vegas promises a two-day gathering four times the size of Long Beach’s, spanning more than 1 million square feet of brands, drops, activations and experiences and with 60,000 anticipated attendees.

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“Travis Scott helped inaugurate the first ComplexCon, and we are excited to welcome him back with an expanded role and as the Sunday night headliner. Travis Scott defines this generation of Complex fans, and we are excited to be working with him in our new home in Las Vegas,” says Complex CEO Aaron Levant.

In February, NTWRK, a live-video shopping platform and marketplace, signed an agreement to acquire Complex. Levant, who co-founded NTWRK with Jamie Iovine and Gaston Dominguez-Letelier in 2018, leads the new company. Levant originally co-created ComplexCon alongside Marc Eckō, Complex’s founder, in 2016.

ComplexCon has become known for exclusive releases from Nike and Adidas and appearances by the late Virgil Abloh, as well as Nigo, Kid Cudi, A$AP Rocky and Hiroshi Fujiwara. Previous artistic directors have included Takashi Murakami, Blackpink creative director Verdy, Cactus Plant Flea Market, J Balvin and Pharrell Williams. 

This year, attendees will have the opportunity to shop brands including 032C, Ambush, Asics, Awake NY, BYREDO, Cactus Plant Flea Market, Ecko Unltd., EDGLRD, Fear of God Essentials, Fox Racing, Fragment, Futura Laboratories, Glo Gang, HELLSTAR, Hidden NY, Holiday, Infinite Archives, Kids of Immigrants, Malbon Golf, Mastermind, Mitchell & Ness, Mowalola, murd333r.fm, New Era Cap, Nike, Oakley, Online Ceramics, PDF Channel, Psychworld, Rick Owens, Satoshi Nakamoto, Saucony, Sp5der, Stash, Thug Club, Undefeated, Vans, Vetements, WWE, Zippo and more.

Also returning is the ComplexCon panel and live talk lineup, which will feature cultural commentators and creatives exploring pop-culture topics. Past discussions have featured Kendrick Lamar, Kobe Bryant, Michael B. Jordan, Lil’ Kim, Issa Rae and Yoon Ambush.

Complex recently acquired the Family Style Food Festival, which will pop up for the first time at ComplexCon 2024. The festival, founded in 2019 by Ben Shenassafar and Bobby Kim of The Hundreds and Miles Canares, is also a like-minded event at the intersection of food and streetwear. It features a lineup of chefs, restaurants, brands and entertainment, serving one-of-a-kind collaborative food and merchandise.

A celebrity golf tournament at Wynn Las Vegas kicks off ComplexCon on Nov. 14. Playboi Carti and Opium will also perform on the ComplexCon Main Music stage, and Metro Boomin will kick it off on Saturday.

VIP and general admission tickets are now available at ComplexCon.com.

This week in dance music: Anyma added two more shows to his upcoming run at Sphere in Las Vegas, bringing the total number of shows to eight; Barry Can’t Swim picked up three 2024 AIM Awards nominations; Ultra 2025 released its phase one lineup, which will feature the debut “retro5pective set from dedmau5, a new psytrance stage and much more; we previewed the trailer for a forthcoming documentary about the ’90s rave scene in San Francisco; we recapped the best moments of Portola 2024; an auction of Avicii’s personal items including clothing and instruments raised $750,000 for the Tim Bergling Foundation; Black Coffee, Fisher and Chase & Status were among the winners at the 2024 DJ Awards in Ibiza; Beatport announced that it’s again awarding $150,000 in grants to groups supporting diversity and equality in dance music; and to round out it all out, these are the best new dance projects of the week.

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Caribou, Honey

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For 13 years, Dan Snaith has masterfully juggled two music aliases: the folksy-electronica live band Caribou, and the club-minded Daphni. While Caribou’s albums post-Andorra have inched closer to the dance floor, his latest, Honey, sounds like an equal meeting of the two projects. Singles like the sparkling “Volume” and bass-wobbling “Honey” deliver the heft demanded of festival main stages, while other tracks like “Do Without You” and “Campfire” are heavy in their pensive moods, lower-to-the-ground production and vocals. “Climbing” is the album’s standout, all disco and sunshine in its squiggling synth crescendos and buoyant melody. It’s a light-hearted tune for closing a set, and somehow, a bittersweet cap on our own summer. The party’s not over just yet, however, as Snaith tours Honey across North America starting next month. — KRYSTAL RODRIGUEZ

2hollis, “gold”

The Los Angeles savant further establishes his hot new thing status with the punchy “gold,” an arrangement of crunchy staccato, skittering percussion and eventual climax of gunfire gabber. These elements are balanced with a woozy, almost sweet melody sung by the producer, who also directed the accompanying music video, which features 2hollis and a group of dancers moshing under a strobe light and rain coming down inside a warehouse, continuing the release’s hard/soft aesthetic. 2hollis just got off tour supporting rapper Ken Carson and is launching his own nine-date North American tour later this month. — KATIE BAIN

yunè pinku, “Reckless Sensation”

UK artist yunè pinku describes her new song “Reckless Sensation” as the “ecstasy of embodying love rather than looking for it.” The serpentine trip-hop track lives somewhere in the haze between haunting and euphoric, with a warmth and sensuality that permeate the spectral space beneath pinku’s soft, siren-like voice. Altogether approaching a transcendence evocative of Massive Attack’s 1998 classic “Teardrop,” the track is from pinku’s new Scarlet Lamb EP, on which she decorates her sonic universe with gothic imagery, citing Jane Eyre, Dracula and Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein as lyrical touchpoints After that, find pinku onstage starting next month when she joins Caribou on his North American tour. — K.R.

Confidence Man, “Real Move Touch”

Confidence Man are coming out of an eventful summer, which entailed performing to a massive crowd at Glastonbury and adding their fabric Presents compilation to the clubbing institution’s mix series. But they’ve got something even bigger waiting on the horizon: their third studio album, 3AM (LA LA LA), which lands on Oct. 18. The Australian band are dropping another preview in the form of a double-single, “Control/Real Move Touch.” Here, they serve up house music two ways: the A-side is a technicolor track bubbling with acid synths and ravey stabs that feel both infectiously joyous and nostalgic, while “Real Move Touch” calls back to the old-school, too, but with glossy ‘90s house that’s both luxurious and lively, as a mash-up of Crystal Waters-esque diva house and sound-system culture with vocals from reggae legend Sweetie Irie.

“I remember him coming into our tiny little studio,” Confidence Man’s Janet Planet says of Irie, “and then he’s like, ‘Do you mind if I blaze up in here?’ And we said, ‘Hell yeah!’ And he was like, ‘Great, I was just checking you guys were real rock stars.’”  — K.R.

Ben Hemsley Feat. Rose Gray, “Tidal”

An unstable relationship drifts out into the deep seas on Ben Hemsley’s new single “Tidal,” featuring vocalist Rose Gray. After previewing the track in his sets at Creamfields, A State of Trance, and his Ibiza residency, the British producer has released the track in its entire 10-minute glory. A brisk BPM and sighing vocal loops give “Tidal” a sense of urgency that circles Gray’s distressed vocals, while extended, sweeping builds create a looming wall of sound akin to its namesake and subsequent drop, a euphoric crashing of melodies and textures.

“‘Tidal’ allowed me to really explore what trance means to me on a deeper level,” Hemsley says. “The extended length gave me the space to play with melodies and atmospheres, taking inspiration from ’90s records that I love. Trance was my first love and it’s the direction you’ll see me going in moving forwards. — K.R.

East Forest, Music For Mushrooms

Ahead of the Oct. 10 release of his documentary of the same name, producer, multi-instrumentalist and wellness practitioner East Forest releases his album, Music For Mushrooms. The 10-track project is composed of music played by the artist during guided psychedelic ceremonies, hence its name. (The project firmly sits in the world of music made specifically for psychedelic spaces.) You won’t find ravey beats over the album’s 59 sublime minutes, with the project instead made of gentle piano, violin, flute and a host of other instruments that altogether build a glimmering, soul-stirring world unto itself. To that end, tracks are named for each place the ceremony it was recorded at took place, capturing the sounds of Big Sur, Calif., Vancouver, Canada and the literal and figurative great beyond. — K.B.

Selena Gomez got quadruple the amount of maternal love recently when the 32-year-old superstar stopped by the set of Glamour‘s Women of the Year cover shoot to greet the mothers of Travis Kelce, Beyoncé and Billie Eilish.
Posted Thursday (Oct. 3), the clip finds Gomez entering the shoot and walking directly to her own mom, Mandy Teefey — who posed on the front of Glamour‘s latest issue with Donna Kelce, Tina Knowles and Maggie Baird, the respective mothers of the aforementioned stars — and wrapping her in a big hug.

“Hi mom, good job!” says the Only Murders in the Building star and executive producer, dressed in head-to-toe black. “You look beautiful.”

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Gomez then moves on to give Donna — who’s already well acquainted with the Rare Beauty founder’s best friend, Taylor Swift — a hug as well. “It’s nice to meet you,” she says before embracing Knowles, whom Gomez tells, “You look beautiful.”

Finally, the “Lose You to Love Me” singer moves on to hug Baird. “It’s so good to see you,” she says, picking up a lock of the Support + Feed co-founder’s silver hair. “I love your hair.”

In the publication’s cover story featuring the four women, it is revealed that Gomez had been right next door at a nearby studio shooting a campaign for her beauty business. During their own shoot, Teefey, Donna, Knowles and Baird opened up about their experiences raising superstar children, with the Wondermind co-founder and Cécred chairwoman especially finding common ground when it came to making sure that Gomez and Bey didn’t become divas despite getting famous as teenagers.

While on the topic, Teefey recalled one particular moment during which she drew the line with Gomez. “She was getting out of the trailer, and there was an umbrella, and they were holding it for her, and then they were bringing her food and all this stuff,” the producer told the other three moms. “I was like, ‘She can hold her own umbrella.’ She needs to learn how to pump her own gas in her car. She needs to be a person first.”

Watch the moment Gomez met Donna Kelce, Knowles and Baird below.

Billboard’s Friday Music Guide serves as a handy guide to this Friday’s most essential releases — the key music that everyone will be talking about today, and that will be dominating playlists this weekend and beyond. 

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This week, Coldplay shoots for the moon, LISA nods to the ’90s and Rich Homie Quan is honored the right way. Check out all of this week’s picks below:

Coldplay, Moon Music 

For a stadium rock act, Coldplay takes more far-out chances than they’re given credit for: new album Moon Music features both an Afrobeats-tinged collaboration with Little Simz, Burna Boy, Elyanna and TINI, as well as a six-minute instrumental with spoken-word Maya Angelou snippets, but the British quartet also tucks in plenty of alt-rock radio fare, like the lovely lead single “feelslikeimfallinginlove.”

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LISA, “Moonlit Floor” 

As she forges ahead with her solo career, BLACKPINK star LISA has revived an indelible ‘90s hit, Sixpence None the Richer’s “Kiss Me,” for “Moonlit Floor,” which functions more like a modern pop jam than an alternative foray in spite of its interpolation.

Rich Homie Quan, Forever Goin In

At 100 minutes, Forever Goin In, the first posthumous Rich Homie Quan release following the rapper’s tragic passing last month, is knowingly uncut, offering fans an extended toast at his brilliant delivery and linguistic skills; across 35 songs, however, the project rarely feels overstuffed, a nod to his greatness.

Finneas, For Cryin’ Out Loud! 

Although Finneas’ younger sister Billie Eilish has enjoyed record-setting success since her first album — he’s opening on her latest arena tour, after all — the songwriter and producer has also carved out a niche of his own, continuing the promise of 2021’s Optimist with more pop dynamism and a greater emphasis on live-band arrangements with this sophomore LP.

Various Artists, Joker: Folie à Deux Soundtrack 

Can’t get enough Joker: Folie à Deux? One week after co-star Lady Gaga unveiled Harlequin as a project inspired by the blockbuster film, the official soundtrack boasts plenty of the spark between Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix that will be featured on the big screen.

Toosii, Jaded 

Toosii continues morphing into one of hip-hop and R&B’s most promising rapper-crooners on Jaded, a breezy project on which he often shines on his own but is best showcased alongside other stars, like the head-knocking Gunna team-up “Champs Élysées” or the soulful Muni Long collaboration “I Do.”

Tucker Wetmore, Waves on a Sunset 

Rising country star Tucker Wetmore has a warm, honest twang that trembles at the end of every line, and new EP Waves on a Sunset does a nice illustrating how he can someday join the genre’s elite, on songs like the hit “Wind Up Missin’ You” and the charming “When I Ain’t Lookin’.”

A$AP Ferg feat. Future & Mike WiLL Made-It, “Allure” 

As Future once again tops the Billboard 200 chart, this time with his Mixtape Pluto project, A$AP Ferg has been on something of a hot streak himself, which he continues over a thunderous Mike WiLL Made-It beat on “Allure,” which begs to be blasted out of a car stereo at nighttime.

James Bay, Changes All the Time 

It’s been 10 years since James Bay broke through with the still-potent hit “Let it Go,” and on Changes All the Time, the veteran singer-songwriter places his most earnest impulses front and center, scooping on positivity amidst sunny hooks and delicate guitar strums following the rousing opener “Up All Night,” featuring The Lumineers and Noah Kahan.

Editor’s Pick: Allie X, “Bon Voyage” 

Setting aside the apt description “dark Fleetwood Mac” offered in the press release for Allie X’s new single “Bon Voyage,” the veteran pop auteur’s latest is a spellbinding collection of melodies and lingering space, leaning into the restlessness of Allie’s voice and captivating by refusing to find resolution.

James Bay’s “Up All Night,” a collaboration with The Lumineers and Noah Kahan, jumps two spots to No. 1 on Billboard’s Adult Alternative Airplay chart dated Oct. 12. Explore See latest videos, charts and news See latest videos, charts and news The song marks Bay’s first No. 1 on the survey, as well as his […]

For any fashion-friendly Swiftie, there’s only one place to go immediately after the pop star releases a music video, attends an award show, is snapped out and about, or supporting Travis Kelce at a Kansas City Chiefs Game: Taylor Swift Style, the fashion blog and popular Instagram account of writer Sarah Chapelle.  

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On TSS, Chapelle documents with astonishing detail (and speed) the source and pricing of Swift’s ensembles (down to each ring on her fingers), but also provides insightful, in-depth critical analysis, illuminating how Swift’s fashion choices are often as revealing — and intentional — as her lyrics. “We’re very familiar with these confessional, emotional songs that she gives us about her life, but I always felt that her style is the other half of that story,” Chapelle tells Billboard. “It’s the visual half that icon-ifies her eras, and it creates these memorable moments that stick out in your brain. I think she’s always, in some form, used fashion as a way of carving out identity and saying something about herself.” 

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On Oct. 8, Chapelle’s already devoted audience (over 300,000 strong on her @taylorswiftstyled Insta) will likely get even bigger when she releases Taylor Swift Style: Fashion Through the Eras (St. Martin’s Griffin), a book encompassing Swift’s career to date as viewed through Chapelle’s “critically-kind” and highly personal perspective. With essays along with commentary on over 200 photographs capturing Swift’s evolution in the public eye, Taylor Swift Style will certainly be catnip for fans – but it also proves to be a fascinating, often surprising lens into this additional layer of Swift’s creativity for anyone watching the artist’s continuing evolution.  

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Chapelle spoke to Billboard ahead of her book’s publication about Swift’s style eras, fashion Easter eggs, and why she should always wear more green. When you were starting what would become Taylor Swift Style, how, if at all, was the fashion press treating Taylor?  So I have been a fan of Taylor since around 2006, and I’ve been documenting her fashion since 2011. At that time, the social media landscape was certainly not what it is right now, and the celebrity fashion landscape and press coverage of it was also not as hyper-focused, and certainly not on Taylor, as it is now.   When I created the blog, I was studying in university to become a journalist, and I was trying to figure out my own identity and navigate, you know, how do I express myself and figure out who I am? And one way that a lot of us would do that is through our clothes. The blog just kind of became an intersection of all of my interests — like a niche within a niche of the fandom — to offer a resource for all of her fashion to other fans who I hoped might feel the same way and have this highly specific interest that I did. I talk about it in the book, and Taylor has talked about it as well, how there was a certain period when her art just wasn’t really taken very seriously or was sort of brushed off as like a teenage girl thing. And now I think we take her art and her power and her business through her artistry, and also, by extension, through her fashion, so, so, so seriously. It’s been an amazing evolution and journey to witness and also document. As you note in the book, at the start of her career, Taylor’s stylist was her label head, Scott Borchetta’s wife. Her current stylist, Joseph Cassell, has now been working with her for many years. Do you see a parallel between how Taylor’s ownership over her creativity and over how she presents herself have evolved?  One thing that has always resonated with me about how Taylor seems to approach her business is that it’s, in a sense, always seemed kind of personal — she retains staff and people around her for very long periods of time, obviously a reflection of the mutual understanding she has with the people around her and the level of trust she has in them to  help execute her vision and bring her ideas to life. I think one kind of fascinating example of her taking an incredible amount of creative control over her image was in the folklore and evermore era when, due to the circumstances of the pandemic, she self-styled because she didn’t want to inconvenience or endanger her team. So the folklore and evermore eras’ [imagery is] a very undiluted look into her creative process of translating what was going on in her mind into the physical, into the visual of how she wanted that era to look and to feel. And I think that’s especially resonant when you consider how the folklore photo shoot feels like its music — you’re kind of traipsing through this imaginary, wooded place as she’s trying to escape the realities of life. It felt right for that era, for that time, for that music.  How did your “critically-kind” ethos come about?   I can’t remember exactly when it started, but I didn’t always write commentary. I used to feel that, oh, people don’t want to hear from you, they just want the information — they just want to know where the clothes are from and where they can get it, and you should kind of be like this invisible admin force, like “don’t look behind the curtain!” type of energy. And a few years in, people would just start being like, “You should write more. You should write longer captions.” It almost felt like taking a page out of Taylor’s book, of when you choose to be vulnerable and a little bit more open people resonate with that humanity, and that resonance is the entire reason why there’s a book in the first place. It’s very easy to fall into the internet pit of defaulting to [saying] unkind or cruel things, and that just never felt like the tone that I wanted to hit or the ethos that I wanted to drive conversation with. I think that there are a lot of people who crave the original intention of the internet, which is to connect with other people — and when you carve out an intentional space for those kinds of conversations to happen in a way that’s thoughtful and nuanced and kind, people will come.  You are well known for your love of Taylor wearing green. Please explain! When people ask me this I feel like I’m almost disappointing with like, a very boring and underwhelming answer — which is, I just think she looks really pretty! (Laughs) I just think that she looks great in that color, and every time I see it, it makes my heart really happy. Luckily for me, she’s had quite a number of amazing moments in green; there’s like an entire sidebar dedicated to some of my favorite Taylor in green moments in the book. The most relevant from this year was the peridot green Gucci gown from the Golden Globes, which was fantastic.   

Taylor Swift at the 81st Golden Globe Awards held at the Beverly Hilton Hotel on Jan. 7, 2024 in Beverly Hills, Calif.

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I was very into that long-sleeved crushed velvet green dress she wore out that everyone was very sure was Rep-coded…   The Little Lies dress from January, yeah. Here’s the thing: I strongly believe that that outfit was an Easter egg, but it was an intentional misdirect, because — stay with me — [as part of] the Tortured Poets rollout, there was coding in the backend of her website that [when unscrambled] said “red herring.” She’s now comfortable enough playing with fashion, not only as a tool to reflect what’s coming next or her state of mind or her emotions or a vibe about a project, but also to intentionally mislead, because she’s aware that people will pick up on things.

And I believe that she had intentionally been using Reputation (Taylor’s Version) as a red herring, so that nobody would suspect that the bait-and-switch would be a new album, The Tortured Poets Department.  Because how much more obvious can you get, wearing a green velvet dress and pairing it with Giuseppe Zanotti boots that have snakes on them? For once, I didn’t think that was a leap — I was like, “I think we are correctly interpreting what we are seeing with our eyes!” (Laughs) She just wanted us to be wrong, which is her right! It’s interesting to see how your readers react to different looks of hers. I noticed that there were very divided reactions to her wearing obvious logos on the recent weekend in New York when she and Travis were photographed together a lot. Why do you think that was?  A logo-covered item [a Gucci shift dress Swift wore out] stuck out to my eye, because it’s not typical of her to go for something so ostentatiously branded, so I think it was just surprising to see her, you know, fully Gucci-fied for that particular outing. Especially because one signature of Taylor’s fashion is the high-low — she loves pairing like, a Reformation dress with, say, Louis Vuitton or Christian Louboutin heels, creating this balanced mix of aspirational and attainable, while still looking overall very relatable. So to wear something so obviously luxury-branded stuck out to a lot of people’s eyes. Are there particular eras when you think Taylor’s music and fashion aesthetics have matched especially well – and, conversely, when they’ve felt more incongruous with each other?  I think that debut made perfect sense. Folklore and evermore make perfect sense to me. It’s hard for 1989; I look at it and I’m like, yeah, that makes perfect sense — it was her major breakthrough into pop music and so she had this, like, pop girl uniform of crop top and skirt — but also she briefly kind of introduced 1989 as, like, this ’80s album, which it’s not…. so debut and folklore feel more cohesive to me. I really loved how the Reputation fashion captured the duality of the album: I talk about it in the book, but obviously she kind of beats you over the head up front with a lot of leather and snakeskin and camo and combat boots, it’s very clearly a bombastic, quote-unquote revenge album, but then she accompanies it with softer sequins and rainbows and sparkles, kind of the signature Taylor Swift soft feminine aesthetic, which is appropriate for Reputation too, because underneath all of that, it is a falling in love album.  For a lot of people, the most incongruous is probably Midnights —  a lot of people were confused by this ‘70s aesthetic, like this smoky, hazy, wood scratched floors and vinyl and patchouli scented air…..and then this huge kind of return to shiny pop. Though I think I’ve come around to making sense of it I really like the Midnights album photo shoot visuals quite a lot.  A big part of seeing Taylor publicly these days is seeing her with Travis — someone who’s intentional about dressing in maybe a very different way — and of course seeing their individual styles juxtaposed. Do you feel they’re complementary, or even rubbing off on each other in interesting ways? So that’s interesting…do you think that Travis dresses intentionally, or do you think that Travis just thinks fashion is fun? 

Taylor Swift arrives at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium prior to a game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Cincinnati Bengals on Sept. 15, 2024 in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Hmm, interesting question. I guess there’s a difference. I do think he finds it fun… I think that there’s a clear difference between somebody who thinks that fashion is a fun thing to play with and to experiment with, and somebody who’s intentionally using fashion as an extension of their artistry and messaging and communication. And I think Travis falls into the fashion is fun [camp]. Having somebody around who obviously injects what she said about him at the VMAs — like, magic and happiness and rainbows and puppies — having that sense of lightness in her life is obviously fun to see, as a fan. But I think watching her show up to Chiefs games has been a fascinating extension of her style, in that it’s the first time that I am analyzing her fashion and her choices not through the lens of “what does this say about her” but in her playing entirely a supporting role. And that’s her choosing Kansas City based businesses, women-owned businesses, choosing vintage — all of those careful, thoughtful, intentional choices kind of create this foundation of “I’m here as a supporting person. I am here to ‘Woooo!’” And I love how she’s made that clear. To me it’s a very clear delineation in her style that still feels very Taylor — like, cute little plaid skirt, little vintage Chiefs sweatshirt? That feels like a very Taylor outfit! It’s very clearly a “I am not the main character” outfit, but the core of the outfit is very recognizably Taylor. She still retains this semblance of recognizability, and I think that that’s one thing that she does incredibly well in all aspects of her branding and her fashion: even as she evolves as an artist, as a person, you can still see her as a human.