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On No One Gets Out Alive, singer-songwriter Maggie Rose is sending a message.
âThe theme of this record is using this finite amount of time well while we have it,â she says of the recently released project. She was in a reflective mood as she wrote and recorded the dynamic work, having gone through the pandemic, seen some friendships come to their natural conclusion and lost her best friendâs dad to cancer. âAll these things that made me feel connected to my community were gone,â she says.Â
With its folk-pop-soul, acoustic production and Roseâs expressive, smoky vocals, the album recalls works from Bonnie Raitt, Yola and Dusty Springfield.Â
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Rose says she doesnât necessarily think about what listeners will learn about her from hearing to the album, but instead what they will learn about themselves: âI think I have a really strong belief in myself and what Iâm doing,â she says. â[Itâs] not as much as I want them to learn about me, but hopefully that they will draw from this.â
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Produced by Ben Tanner, the album guitarist Sadler Vaden and drummer Chad Gamble from Jason Isbellâs 400 Unit, keyboardist Peter Levin (Amanda Shires, Gregg Allman), bassist Zac Cockrell (Alabama Shakes) and keyboardist Kaitlyn Connor and guitarist Kyle Lewis from Roseâs own band. âI believed in this Field of Dreams idea of build it and they will come,â she says, of assembling the players.
Rose, who released her first album in 2009, delivered the completed project to Big Loud Records, which didnât change a thing, including the sequencing. âI am not by any means jaded, but it wasnât what I was expecting a label on Music Row to deliver for me and fully embrace what I was doing,â she says. âI think that just is a testament to Big Loud and how progressive and artist forward they are. But all the tentativeness that I had just from having operated around Music Row for so long, that all went away just because I felt like I was really understood. This is the partnership Iâve been waiting for.â
Rose has played the Grand Ole Opry 106 times, and if mainstream country music gatekeepers have yet to embrace her, she feels totally accepted on that vaunted stage. âI think it speaks to all the different iterations of what the Nashville music scene is,â she says. âThe fact that the Grand Ole Opry has been around for almost 100 years is probably due to the fact that they are malleable and theyâre trying to adapt, and also be progressive and cast a little bit of a wider net than maybe our friends at country radio are doing. I donât know that my music is like a bullseye for what you would typically expect to hear at the Grand Ole Opry, but I feel very much part of a community that I want to see go on for another 100 years.â
Below, Rose picks her five favorite tracks from the new album â though she admits her top selections can change on any given day â with explanations in her own words for each pick.
âNo One Gets Out Aliveâ
The title by itself: If you just hear âNo one gets out alive,â it sounds really ominous and dark. When you hear the song in its entirety, itâs anything but. Itâs really hopeful. Iâd had this title just kind of rolling around in my head. I knew the day that I wrote this song with Sunny Sweeney and Natalie Hemby, that most likely I would end up naming the album that â just because Iâd already written some other songs that were about moving on with only what you need and taking advantage of the time that you have. It was me letting go of some emotions that were holding me back creatively and keeping me from living to my full potential and extracting all the joy I can from what weâre doing.
I wanted this really dramatic ending, and I even got kind of scared of it. I said to Ben Tanner, âPeople are going to think Iâm being too dramatic or over the top with this.â And heâs like, âYou deserve to step into that theater and drama. Thatâs what the song is about.â Thereâs urgency. Itâs demanding people live in the present right now.Â
âMad Loveâ (feat. John Paul White)
âMad Loveâ and âNo One Gets Out Aliveâ are a little like twin songs. Every song has its little counterpart that it belongs with. âMad Loveâ has that same kind of cinematic, Tarantino soundtrack feel as âAlive.â It was almost like I was trying to manifest this character that was a little braver than I was at the time. Iâm like, this is Beatrix Kiddo in Kill Bill and pretending to step into this role. And maybe if I write this story and create this person in this persona, Iâll able to fulfill it and live up to it. I love performing that song. It just gives me like [Lee] Hazelwood/Nancy Sinatra, spaghetti western vibes. And itâs also goes with the theme of relationships running their course, and of owning a little bit of that anger and moving on from it.
I love John Paul White. Heâs got the haunting melody/ harmony thing down. I was like, âWhat better voice than John Paulâs to have on a song like âMad Loveâ?â And I didnât even tell him what parts to sing. Heâs just doing his own thing. It truly just adds this ghostly beauty to the song that I love.Â
âFake Flowersâ
I wrote it with Chuck Harmony and Claude Kelly, who have become really good friends of mine. It was maybe one of the first songs that I had written when I started to realize thereâs an album thatâs starting to galvanize here. Chuck and Claude are  known for writing these huge, diva pop melodies, and have written for Christina Aguilera, Miley Cyrus, Whitney Houston and Britney Spears. We probably made nine efforts, just the three of us, for songs to be contenders for this record and âFake Flowersâ was one of them.
I felt like I owned my anger, which is not necessarily something women are always encouraged to do. Itâs one that I really look forward to during the live show, because itâs so dynamic and it has [these] kind of spooky, intimate verses and then this explosive Motown chorus, where it kind of mimics raging out. I love when music and the sentiment of a song can really marry together so well like that. I have a fondness in thinking about writing that with them and knowing that the three of us really had something special.
âToo Youngâ
The song I wrote with Natalie Hemby is about ageism. Natalie and I both were drawing from our similar experiences of moving to Nashville when we were teenagers. Knowing that we were talented, knowing that we have good people or established people around us and things going for us, but we were kind of undermined in thinking that we didnât know what was best for ourselves and our careers. We wrote the song based on that. Knowing that Iâve been in Nashville for 16 years and was feeling like, âOK, Iâm 35 and making another record.â Â
I wanted to include at the end that youâre never too old to chase your dreams. No one is. I think ageism is a really tough subject to write about, but I feel like Natalie and I did a good job. And it was such an intimate day of us laughing and crying and going down memory lane of different things that we had experienced throughout our careers. There was a lot of beauty to it, too, and anticipation for whatâs to come.
We have to push against that stigma within our industry. Itâs ridiculous. I love hearing from artists who have lived experiences and who can draw from wisdom. I feel more rooted in what I have to say now than I ever have.
âUnder the Sunâ
I love the groove of it. It has this fun Fleetwood Mac feel, but the lyrics are this really strong juxtaposition of sadness and the idea that weâve exhausted every effort to reconcile and itâs not going to happen. Thereâs a little sarcasm to it as well:Â I guess thereâs nothing out there for us that will bring us back together. I just like when you are grooving along to a song and you think itâs like this happy bop and it reveals itself to you as âOh, this is actually pretty introspective and kind of sad.â Itâs one that I really look forward to playing live. The productionâs kind of fun and it adds a cool element to collection of songs that makes it really well rounded.
Josh Groban shocked the theater community when he and his Sweeney Todd co-star Annaleigh Ashford announced that they will be playing their final shows on Jan. 14, 2024, with Aaron Tveit and Sutton Foster set to replace the pair. While Groban expressed gratitude for getting to be in the show in his departure announcement, the star provided additional context as to why he left in a new interview with Billboard News.
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âI think that we feel whether we stayed in it another year, whether we left tomorrow, I think Annaleigh and I feel like we did what we came to do,â Groban explained to Billboardâs Rebecca Milzoff. âWe wanted to get it off the ground in a way that we were really proud of, to get a response that [Stephen] Sondheim would have been really excited by and proud of, we wanted to bring our essence to the role and do something to it that we personally would be really proud of. And then it comes down to, how long do you stay fresh in that and how long do you feel like you have something really vital in your tank to give it.â
Their revival of Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, to use its full title, received eight Tony nominations, including best revival of a musical and best actor and actress in a musical for Groban and Ashford. The cast album from the show is nominated for a Grammy for best musical theater album. Final-round voting is currently underway. The awards will be presented on Feb. 4.
Elsewhere during Grobanâs interview, he spoke about his link to David Foster, who mentored him throughout the process of recording his 2001 self-titled debut album, and revealed that the experience gave him the tools necessary to soar on his sophomore follow-up, Closer. Groban reflected on the album hitting No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart and being surprised because it felt âa little more expressiveâ than his debut.
âI remember it didnât open at No. 1. I remember being surprised [when] I got the call that it had gone No. 1 when thatâs usually not the case. Usually, you have your big opening week, at least thatâs the way the business is now, so that was a really special feeling.â
Closer entered the Billboard 200 at No. 4 in November 2003 and finally reached No. 1 in its ninth week in January 2004. âYou Raise Me Up,â a Foster-produced track from the album, became his first hit on the Billboard Hot 100 and brought him his first Grammy nod (best male pop vocal performance).
âThat was the first album I started to write on,â Groban recalls. âI felt like that was the first album that I started to explore more eclectic taste and took more risks and dipped my toes into waters that felt a little more self-expressive.â
He continued, âYour first album youâre just so careful, you got a lot of chefs in the kitchen. When you got someone like David Foster, youâve got Gordon Ramsey in your kitchen â in a good way. So that album doing what it did really made me realize that my fans are in it for the long run. That album going to No. 1 made me realize, âOh weâre gonna have a journey together.â ⊠They were open to other styles. They were open to me being me.â
Watch Grobanâs full interview with Billboard News in the video above.
Tigaâs Turbo Recordings has delivered fresh, inventive music reflecting the darkly alluring world of techno for 25 years, which is a pretty long time.
Today (Nov. 17), the Montreal-based producer and the label are celebrating this quarter century of existence with a 25-track compilation album, composed of music by a globe-spanning collection of artists including Seth Troxler, Spanish producer Adrian Marth, Chilean-German artist Matias Aguayo, Germany-based Biesmans and a 2manyDJs edit of Tigaâs own âWoke.â Thereâs also a flurry of other productions that exist in a place thatâs simultaneously tough, cerebral and transcendent.
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In other words, the compilation is made for the club, which has been the producerâs home away from home since he started releasing music in the late â90s. Over time, Tiga has become a hero of the electronic realm with smart, consistent releases that hit emotional buttons without ever veering into cheesiness.
The Turbo 25 project comes amid new work from Tigaâs LMZ project, a collaboration with Hudson Mohawke thatâs delivered resonant collaborations with Channel Tres and most recently, Jesse Boykins III. Here, Tiga reflects on the compilation, 25 years of Turbo, and how â while heâs occasionally considered throwing in the towel on the label â heâs ânever considered quittingâ music.
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1. Where are you in the world right now, and whatâs the setting like?
Amsterdam. Iâve been staring out my window like a house cat. Looks very alive.
2. What is the first album or piece of music you bought for yourself, and what was the medium?
With my own money: the first Duran Duran album. On cassette, bootleg Indian edition, at a hotel lobby giftshop in Bombay. 1981 or 82.
3. What did your parents do for a living when you were a kid, and what do or did they think of what you do for a living now?
My mother was a full-time mom, she took very good care of me and was always there for me. My dad was a stock trader. They were both extremely supportive from step one, even when I dropped out of school at 18. They knew their son, and knew how serious and passionate I was, and they supported me completely with zero judgment.
4. Whatâs the first non-gear thing you bought for yourself when you started making money as an artist?
Good question. A pair of Yamamoto boots.
5. If you had to recommend one album for someone looking to get into electronic music, what would you give them?
Aphex Twin, Selected Ambient Works.
6. Whatâs the last song you listened to?
Leonard Cohen, âItâs Torn.â
7. You spent the early years of your life in Goa, India. What are your strongest memories of that time? Did it set you up to be a producer?
I donât think it set me up as a producer, but as a person I got used to being around wild people and got used to the idea it was okay to be different and strange. I also grew up around a lot of hippies and weirdos, so I always wanted to work hard to end up âsuccessful.â
8. Goa trance, love it or leave it?
When itâs done well, I like it. But what I really love is just good trance that happens to be played in Goa.
9. How were the 25 tracks on the compilation collected and selected? What was the criteria for what made it on? Is there anyone youâre particularly excited about having on the compilation?
It was a collection of our existing family of artists and new artists that we have had an eye on. We sent out invite letters to everybody and then just had some back and forth with them. It is always quite informal. I was very happy to work with Matias Aguayo, because heâs one of my favorites and he delivered something really special.
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10. What does this compilation say about the past/present/future of Turbo?
That we still do what we do.
11. The compilationâs albumâs fine print that it was âmade possible in part by the Government of Canada.â What did the Canadian government bestow upon the album?
We get some grant money for certain projects from the Canadian arts endowment. They support Canadian artists. Its tax money well spent.
12. Does Turbo have a brick-and-mortar headquarters? If so, paint us a picture of that space. If not, whatâs your fantasy HQ?
We had a gorgeous office from about 2012 to 2018. It had a studio, a giant wall of fame with every single physical release mounted in order. We closed it pre-pandemic, and now itâs all laptops and remote control. But itâs my plan to open a new HQ in the next few years, on a mountain top in the countryside.
13. Twenty-five years is a respectable amount of time for any artistic endeavor. Was there ever a time in your career when you considered quitting? Do you see yourself making music and traveling the world in perpetuity?
I never considered quitting personally. Never. I obviously go in and out of the love affair with travel and touring, but generally itâs still an almost unbeatable occupation. As for the label: Yes. There were a few times over the years when I almost threw in the towel.
14. If you could time travel to any era of dance music, to when would you go and why?
I would have liked to go to a few legit early acid house parties: early 80âs Ibiza, late â80s U.K. I also would have loved to have been to some serious Belgian industrial/new beat clubs at inception. I would love to have been at a club like the Hacienda the first time Blue Monday played.
15. In the sprawling ecosystem of dance music, what niche does Turbo fill?
I like to think we make dignified bangers.Â
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16. Dance music is obviously intended to make people⊠dance, but are there any dance songs that reliably make you cry?
I donât think Iâve ever actually shed a tear to a dance song. There are a few Aphex tracks like âPolynomial/Câ and âEvery Dayâ that make me very emotional, but not actual tears.Â
17. Whatâs the proudest moment of your career thus far?
I was proud of the first time I did a live show, in Berlin, in 2015. Singing in front of an audience, etc. Also, my first real shows in Berlin back in 2001.jamb
18. Whatâs the best business decision youâve ever made?
Never having a boss.
19. Whoâs been your greatest mentor, and whatâs the best advice they gave you?
I donât really have a mentor, and I would love to have one. Itâs healthy. But my dad told me when I was about one, âJust find something you love to do, and do it.â And that was great advice.
20. One piece of advice youâd give to your younger self?
Get paid in Bitcoin for a few years, 2015-2016, and be generous with the people around you.

Whether you know him as Green Velvet, as Cajmere, as one half of Get Real or as one of his other aliases, the fact is that Curtis Jonesâ productions are as vital now as they was when he started making house music back in the early â90s.
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The Chicago-born artist scored dance world hits early in his career, with Cajmereâs âPercolatorâ and âBrighter Daysâ â both released in 1992 â becoming club staples (and in the formerâs case, also a jock jam essential.) Both of those songs were also played during BeyoncĂ©âs 2023 tour behind Renaissance, an album Green Velvet contributed to the as the co-producer of âCOZY.â His hefty catalog includes collaborations with a spectrum-spanning collection of dance artists including Chris Lake, Patrick Topping, Flosstradamus, Walker & Royce and many more.
Jonesâ most recent release is âThe Greatest Thing Alive,â a characteristically funky collaboration with Mark Knight and James Hurr released via Knightâs longstanding label, Toolroom. The last two months of the year will find him playing gigs in the U.K., Mexico, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Arizona.
But before all that, we found him at home in Chicago. Here, Green Velvet talks about how BeyoncĂ© helped deliver one of the proudest moments of his career, his respect for Prince and why â after so much success â he doesnât yet feel like a legend.
1. Where are you in the world right now, and whatâs the setting like?
Right now Iâm home in Chicago working in my studio, and the setting is peaceful and inspiring.
2. What is the first album or piece of music you bought for yourself, and what was the medium?
This is very difficult for me to answer, because with my father being a DJ and working in my auntâs record store I grew up around music. My favorite album, however, was Parliamentâs Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome.
3. What did your parents do for a living when you were a kid, and what do or did they think of what you do for a living now?
My father was an electrical engineer, an entrepreneur and DJ. My mother was a dietitian. My father passed away more than 10 years ago. He was very proud of what I was doing. My mother still wants me to go back to school to get a PhD so we will have a doctor in the family.
4. Whatâs the first non-gear thing you bought for yourself when you started making money as an artist?
A tacky, used, stick-shift red sports car.
5. If you had to recommend one album for someone looking to get into dance/electronic music, what would you give them?
Princeâs 1999. The man was a genius, and he knew how to bring synthesizers to life.
6. Whatâs the last song you listened to?
My upcoming release with DJ E-Clyps and Dajae, âHot N Spicy.â
7. The word âlegendâ is associated with your name. Do you feel legendary?
No, I donât feel legendary, because my best work is yet to come.
8. Your latest track is âThe Greatest Thing Alive.â What, for you, are the greatest things alive?
Babies, puppies and people with love in their hearts.
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9. The song is also very much about feeling yourself. In what moments do you feel like the greatest thing alive?
When I am helping others.
10. Youâve been doing this for more than three decades. Whatâs the key to your longevity?
God blessing me with creativity and wisdom to make music that continues to resonate with fans, young and old.
11. And in those 30 years youâve obviously seen the dance world change a lot. How does this moment compare to 10 or 20 or 30 years ago?
Now it is pop culture, where in the past it was underground.
12. Youâve talked before about your religious conversion after having your drink spiked with GhB roughly 20 years ago. How do your faith and your career intersect?
I have always been religious, and a lot of my music reflects that. After by the grace of God I survived my drink being spiked, it made my faith even stronger.
13. Whatâs the best city in the world for dance music currently? Why?
The music is really global now and one of the results of the pandemic â especially with the internet and streaming â is people have learned to have a good time no matter where they are in the world.
14. The most exciting thing happening in dance music currently is _____?
The return of oversized clothes.
15. The most annoying thing happening in dance music currently is _____?
People having their cell phones stolen at music events.
16. Do you have guilty pleasure music?
My guilty music pleasure is listening to classical music.
17. Whatâs been the proudest moment of your career thus far?
There are actually two. Hearing âPercolatorâ on the radio in 1992 and having BeyoncĂ© play âPercolatorâ and âBrighter Daysâ during her Renaissance Tour.
18. Whatâs the best business decision youâve ever made?
Leaving graduate school at the UC Berkeley Department of Chemical Engineering for music.
19. Who was your greatest mentor, and what was the best advice they gave you?
My music career has been influenced by many people and experiences, but unfortunately, I didnât have a mentor.
20. One piece of advice youâd give to your younger self?
Get your own drinks and never leave it unattended!!!
When music attorney Don Passman was starting his career five decades ago, he talked his first client out of signing a 15-year contract that would have paid her manager half her earnings. Today, that same artist could get the same career-saving advice from Passmanâs revered guide, All You Need to Know About the Music Business, for just $35 retail.
A partner at Los Angeles-based Gang, Tyre, Ramer, Brown & Passman, Inc., Passman is hesitant to discuss his high-wattage clients â he is said to represent Taylor Swift and Adele, among others â but is always eager to share the lessons he has learned from five decades of representing them. The 11th edition of All You Need to Know About the Music Business, to be released by Simon & Schuster on Oct. 24, arrives at a critical time for many musicians. Increasingly, artists are deciding to remain independent and use the high-powered tools at their disposal â everything from recording applications to digital distribution to social media apps like TikTok â to build a fan base. Both opportunity and the ability to make poor decisions have never been greater.
To Passman â who doesnât take major record labels as clients, although his firm âoccasionallyâ represents an independent label, he says â the proliferation of do-it-yourself marketing tools has brought equity to a business long marred by power imbalances. Unlike the early years in Passmanâs career, when record labels, retailers and radio stations acted as powerful gatekeepers, todayâs artists go directly to fans using digital distributors and powerful tools such as TikTok and YouTube. With such low barriers to entry, more than 100,000 tracks are uploaded to digital service providers every day. Being a professional musician is easy. Being a successful professional musician is far more difficult.
âNow the game has become [about] how do you break through the noise?â says Passman in a recent Zoom call. âThe record labels have made a conscious decision to wait and see what artists can get traction on their own. And then when they get enough heat, the record company starts to chase them.â
As the tools of the trade have changed, so too has the path to success. With the exception of K-pop labels, companies rarely pluck unknown artists from obscurity and spend years developing their careers. Artists are expected to build their own careers and develop enough momentum to warrant a record labelâs commitment. That often requires building a team â manager, agent, attorney and an army of consultants â and taking more of a CEO role. For a generation of aspiring artists, Passmanâs advice has never been more important.
This interview has been edited and condensed for length and clarity.
In the new version of All You Need to Know About the Music Business, you write that the music business has become far more democratic since the last edition of your book. What do you mean by that?
Now itâs about how you connect with your fans. I have a section that Iâve expanded this time about how to go about doing that. Whether you want to do it yourself completely, or whether you want to go to a label, youâve got to start a buzz on your own and youâve got to make things happen. The companies get the same data, theyâre all chasing the same artists and youâre getting bidding wars. And artists are able to get deals that in history they could have never gotten for their first record deal.
The downside is that you get people who have a billion streams but have never played in front of a live audience. Iâm exaggerating, but they donât have years on the road of developing their chops and donât have a show. Maybe theyâve only got a few songs. If you look at the statistics from Billboard, there are less new artists in the top 100 over the last few years. Itâs been declining. And thereâs a concern that weâre in weâre in the hip-building business rather than the career-building business and no oneâs quite sure why or what to do about it other than feed the short attention span and the virality of some of these things. But itâs challenging in that sense to build a long-term career.
From where you sit as an attorney, are things working out for these artists that have some do-it-yourself success and then get signed? Howâs that next step going for them?
The reality is I donât do a lot of those kinds of deals, just because weâre a small firm and I donât take a lot of business. And so, I donât take as many shots with brand new artists. I do here and there, but not a lot.
It also depends on the smartness of your manager and the innate talent of the artists to follow it up. But the ones that are real artists, and the ones that are well managed, can launch a good career off of it. The ones that are one-shot wonders donât do so well. They canât follow it up. I donât know what the statistics are on the ones that get these massive deals, but Iâm going to guess thereâs a pretty good rate of failure beyond the first record.
But the companies have gotten more sophisticated. Theyâre not just looking for something thatâs got hundreds of millions of streams. Theyâre also looking for fan engagement. Theyâre looking to see whether thereâs a real connection with the artists because today itâs all about connecting with fans. And the artists that do that well and maintain it and build their connections and their image and their buzz, are going to have much healthier careers than the ones who just happen to catch a moment.
The front of the new edition of your book says artists have more power than ever in the history of the business. Whereâs that power coming from?
From what weâve discussed about how the labels are chasing people who already have a buzz. What happens is that two or three labels start to chase the same artist and if the artist is trending upward during the fox hunt, the numbers get bigger and bigger, and the labels are bidding against each other out of FOMO. And so, the artists now have a lot of power to demand things that theyâve never gotten before in history, like a share of the profits, like ownership of their masters that revert after a period of time. It used to be that you had had to be massive to get those things, but not anymore.
What about artists who are already established? Do they have more power? Is there a ceiling to how powerful a Taylor Swift or somebody can be in her negotiations?
Well, thereâs a ceiling. But the ceiling in any negotiation is just simply the pain tolerance of the other side. My personal philosophy is that you thereâs such a thing as making too good a deal â if you leave the other side so battered that they have no incentive to do anything, in particular with the artist if something goes wrong, because they just canât make enough of a return on it. I think thereâs such a thing as going over the line. Now, Iâm happy to go up to the line and maybe an inch or two over. In fact, Iâm probably not doing my job if I donât. But when you get to the massive superstars, you get to figure out where the lines are, and you get to do something thatâs never been done before. And that, to me, is the most fun part of the business.
The 360-degree multi-rights contract was dominant for a time. Artists pushed back. They didnât want to share other revenue streams other than recorded music. And is that still a starting point for contracts is the 360 and then you carve out exceptions?
Yes, and yes. Most of all, labels will ask for something. If thereâs any kind of bidding war, it goes away pretty quickly. A few labels are stubborn and think theyâre entitled to it no matter what. But most labels, if thereâs any kind of bidding, itâll go away. Or at worst, it gets reduced radically to relatively small amounts.
So thatâs a sign of artists having more power is getting better terms in these recording contracts.
Correct.
What things still exist in recording contracts that have had a bad reputation? Iâm thinking of reserves for returns or control composition clauses or ways that labels would keep a little money for themselves at the expense of artists. Do these things still exist?
They do but theyâre becoming much less relevant. Certainly, the returns reserve if the item is physical goods still applies. Although vinyl is surging, itâs still less than 10% of the business. So, it applies to that. And the same thing with the control composition clause. It doesnât really apply to digital. It only applies to physical product in any relatively recent deals. And so, itâs become less relevant and easier for the artists to get better terms on it.
What would you like to completely rid from contracts?
The contracts have gotten reasonably artist-friendly over time. I mean, obviously, theyâre still going to want to take an edge and a corner. I will tell you that re-recording restrictions have gotten tougher in recent years for reasons you can probably figure out. And those used to be much broader than they are now.
Whatâs a typical restriction?
They donât want you to duplicate your recordings â like ever â and then they will limit the other types of recordings you can do. So, itâs gotten tougher as the labels get more concerned about artists re-recording or catalogs.
Thereâs a lot of concern about artificial intelligence these days â about properly harnessing the technology, concerns about getting paid, concerns about unauthorized use of artists, voice or songwritersâ compositions from a legal perspective. How challenging is this new generation of AI technologies?
Weâre not going to put AI back in the bottle. Itâs here. The real problem with AI, apart from the fact that artists may not like it, is that it can dilute the money thatâs paid out to real artists. If I got 1,000 plays, and thereâs 10,000 in a month, Iâm gonna get 10% of the money, right? The problem is that if part of those plays are AI, and the streamer isnât paying anybody, because thereâs no copyright in AI, and thereâs no ability to get paid for it, then theyâre taking a chunk of money thatâs not going out to the real artists. So, the challenge is to make sure that they canât use AI to dilute whatâs going to the record companies and artists. And obviously, the companies are all over this and I think will be successful if they arenât already â itâs not public â in making sure that doesnât happen. But thatâs a major concern coming out of AI that we need to be careful about.
But thereâs also potential, too. I can imagine estates using AI to bring to life deceased artists.
Yes, of course, all of those things are possible. Interestingly, thereâs no copyright in AI. So, if you use it to create something, it may be that anything you create, anybody else can use for free, and you canât necessarily get paid for it. So, I do think AI has a place in helping artists and helping enhance materials and so forth, but the law gets a little tricky because you can only get a copyright on whatâs created by a human is pretty well settled. And so, the part created by the AI doesnât have a copyright, so you donât end up owning 100% of your material.
If something is created with AI, would part of that be copyrighted and then some portion would not, based on whatever the AI created?
Yes, thatâs correct.
And then how is the split determined?
It depends on how much creativity the human put into it. If I go to an AI machine, and I say, âWrite spa music,â and it knocks out a bunch of spa-sounding music, I havenât done anything creative. Iâve just said, âGo make spa musicâ. If, on the other hand, I say, âDraw a picture of Kim Jong Un and Abraham Lincoln in a wrestling match on a roof in Mumbai,â maybe Iâve got enough creativity to get something of the copyright â but not in the drawing.
Thereâs a recent case with the Copyright Office about Zarya of the Dawn, where the author wrote a story and then had AI create the pictures for a graphic novel. The copyright office said thereâs no copyright in the individual images. There is [copyright] on the story. But thereâs interestingly whatâs called a compilation copyright in the novel, meaning the way you arrange the pictures. The law in copyright says if I arrange un-copyrighted material in a particular way, I can get a copyright in the arrangement even though the underlying materials arenât copyrighted, like a phone book, for example, the names arenât copyrightable, but you can get a copyright in the way theyâre arranged in the phonebook. And so that same principle applies here when youâve got a number of copyrightable drawings in a particular way. But anybody could copy one of the drawings separately.
In your book, you give artists some advice: âAll the superstars Iâve known have a clear vision of who they are and what their music is.â But there are also countless stories of artists, perhaps with clear visions, running into record labelsâ A&R teams and sometimes that vision changes. What separates the superstar artists that youâve known from the artists that didnât reach that status?
I think the simple answer is their drive and their passion. The superstars have an unlimited amount of drive and are willing to walk through walls and they donât get discouraged, and they keep getting up when they get knocked down and they just keep going. I think thatâs what separates them. I think it could arguably be more important than talent. I mean, you and I could both name some moderately talented superstars just as we can name amazingly talented people whoâve never had much of a career. And the difference, I think, is their drive and their ability to want to do the work. Itâs just a lot of work to have to have a serious career in any field really, but particularly in entertainment when you thereâs no set path to get on. You just have to do it yourself.
Are the superstars equally demanding of their attorneys? Do they have high expectations for you as well?
I hope so. You know, it depends on the artist, and it depends on the situation. A lot of them are not that interested in business, or they may be interested but they want to spend their time being creative, which is a smart decision. So, they have people around them. But I think they deserve the utmost time and attention.
Your book details quite well how the music business can get really complicated and have a lot of pitfalls. What are some mistakes you see artists and their attorneys still making that they shouldnât?
Well, in the early stages, the biggest mistakes artists make are signing long-term deals and not having any kind of an out if things arenât working and they can get hung up with a manager that can really impact your career. They can get hung up on a record deal thatâs not very good or a publishing deal thatâs not very good, and no ability to ever get out of it. I think those are the things to watch for in the beginning.
That recalls your first client. I believe a manager was trying to get 50% out of your first entertainment client?
Yeah, for 15 years.
So, there would have been an out at some point, but 15 years is a long time.
Yeah, it was a completely stupid deal, but I was so young I was scared to death. But I did talk her out of it.
Artists and songwriters can sell their catalogs for pretty large sums these days. It seems to me that those deals havenât changed the balance of power much because they go to artists who are already the most successful. Would you agree or disagree with that?
Catalog sales are happening at every level; the ones who get the headlines are the most successful. At almost every level somebody is selling their catalogs. Iâll give you my philosophy on it: For most people, I think itâs a mistake, and I try to talk them out of it. And I can give you the reasons if youâre interested. Thereâs a section in the book on this as well.
Yes, please do.
Historically, everybody who sold their catalog has regretted it. The Beatles catalog sold a Michael Jackson for $47 million; itâs probably worth $1 billion today. Thereâs people over the years who have sold their royalty stream and with the changes in technology, they now make almost as much every year it would have made them as what they sold it for, or at least two or three yearsâ worth. And the other exercise is a pretty simple one: Take the money that you get from the sale, deduct your expenses of selling, pay your taxes, and when you look at whatâs leftover can you invest it and get the same amount of money you were getting before? And do you have the same upside potential your catalogue has? A lot of time the answer is no. And prices are definitely at a historic high. Iâve never seen them this high.
On the other hand, these are pretty smart financial people on the other side, and theyâre betting that the market is going to grow and subscription prices will go up and thereâll be more people subscribing as an industry matures, and they think that the income is going to go up.
So, now having said all that, I do think it makes sense in the following circumstance: If youâre an older artist, if your heirs donât know how to handle your catalog, or will kill each other trying to handle it, it could make sense to sell it. It could also make sense if you donât have enough cash to pay estate tax on the value of your catalog when it comes around, and they have to do a fire sale, and youâre worried about that for your heirs. Or if you desperately need money at any level. I think it should be one of the last assets to go. Itâs a place to get money, but you could also borrow against it to some degree depending on what youâre looking to do. Iâve obviously done a number of these because not everybody agrees with me and a lot of them are in the circumstances Iâve described. But for the most part, and certainly for younger artists, I think itâs something to be very careful about
How often are you able to dissuade people of selling? Do you make a convincing argument?
I have a pretty good track record of it, yeah. By the way, itâs not in my personal interest. Iâd love to get it large fee for selling a catalog, but I always try and do whatâs best for the artists.

Sometimes, in the middle of a set, Fatboy Slim steps back from the decks â barefoot, because he doesnât play with shoes on â and takes a moment.
âI look at the crowd and feel the atmosphere and the evening and take a little mental snapshot,â the producer born Norman Cook tells Billboard over Zoom from his home office in Brighton Beach, U.K. âMaybe everyoneâs like âWhat the hellâs he doing? Is he having some sort of major panic attack?â But itâs a good thing.’â
These instances are Cook consciously absorbing his work and his life and the general fun and power of what he does. Itâs a habit cultivated amidst a four-decade career in which some moments have been lost in a haze of partying (Cook marked 14 years of sobriety this past March). As of late, thereâs been a lot of to absorb.
A global star for decades now, Cook, 60, has been touring heavily, hitting Europe, the U.K., Australia, New Zealand, the U.S. and beyond this year. In 2022, he celebrated the 20-year anniversary of his first Big Beach Boutique event â which in 2002 drew 250,000 people to the beach in Cookâs hometown of Brighton â and also launched his own festival, All Back to Minehead. That event returns to Minehead, U.K. this November.
Ahead of that, Cook is also playing a rare Los Angeles set this Saturday (Sept. 23), headlining downtown L.A.âs Pershing Square for a show produced by L.A. promoter Framework and featuring support from DJ Holographic and Francis Mercier.
The party continues next month, with the 25-year anniversary of Fatboy Slimâs massive 1998 LP Youâve Come A Long Way, Baby. One of the definitive albums of the big beat era, the project contained the crossover classics âThe Rockafeller Skankâ and âPraise Youâ and hit No. 34 on the Billboard 200 in May of 1999. In all, the Fatboy Slim catalog has aggregated 390 million on demand streams in the U.S., according to Luminate.
Funny, deep and affable over Zoom, Cook compares the heights of this album to âwhat being on top of a wave must feel like.â Here, he reflects on that period, shares what heâs learned from David Byrne (his collaborator on the currently running Broadway show Here Lies Love), and reflects on a forgotten night out with Cher.
1. Where are you in the world right now, and whatâs the setting like?
I am on Brighton Beach. Weâre experiencing a heat wave, which is very un-British. But itâs very British to have heat waves at the wrong time. Itâs like, 32 degrees [90 degrees Fahrenheit] here.
2. What is the first album or piece of music you bought for yourself, and what was the medium?
The first album I ever bought was a cassette of Black and Blue by The Rolling Stones. Thatâs the first time I could afford to buy an actual real pre-recorded cassette. It was very groundbreaking, because it was the first time I got into production.
Thereâs a tune on on it called âFool to Cry.â Itâs a really beautiful song, and it started with this noise, and I became obsessed with finding out what this noise was, because it wasnât a guitar. Then someone said, âOh, itâs a Fender Rhodes played through a chorus.â That was the first time I asked, âHow do you make that noise?â Iâve spent the rest of my career asking that same question. Iâm a little bit more informed these days.
3. What did your parents do for a living when you were a kid, and what did they think of what youâve done and do now?
My dad worked for a glass company, but he actually launched bottle banks. He launched recycling in England. It wasnât his idea. He just got landed with that job. So he introduced the idea of bottle banks and glass recycling to the country and got the MBE for it, which is quite cool. My mum was a teacher.
My mum is very, very proud of me and always loved music and my capacity to enjoy and perform music. My dad, not so much. He was a negative influence, because he told me that pop music is rubbish and âyou want to get yourself a proper job.â So I had kind of good cop, bad cop. One person telling me it was a terrible thing to do, which made me want to do it more. And then another person telling me that was a really great thing to do, which made me want to do it more.
4. What is the first non-gear thing you bought for yourself when you started making money as an artist?
Non-gear? Oh, right. Equipment you mean. Gear means something else in England. [laughs] Right. The first thing I bought was a car that worked and got you from A to B. I was the only one in the band with a car. It was my first luxury. It was a Chrysler Alpine.
5. If you had to recommend one album for someone looking to get into dance music, what would you give them?
I would say, just to not be obvious, Duck Rock by Malcolm McLaren. Malcolm McLaren was the manager of the Sex Pistols, okay. And he was like a svengali character and after the Sex Pistols split up, he was very much an arbiter of what was going on. He was working in New York and picked up on hip-hop really early, got invited to these the Bronx parties with Bambaata and everyone. And so he made this album called Duck Rock, and it had DJs and scratching and rapping on it. He also went to South Africa and worked with a lot of South African musicians and then he glued them on to the tunes he made with the DJs and with rappers, and then he did a song about double dutch skipping. It was like a snapshot of everything that interesting that was going on in the world of culture.
The cover was done by Keith Haring, and thatâs the first time Iâd ever seen Keith Haringâs work, and so that introduced me to the world of art and opened my eyes to the idea of sampling things from around the world and bringing them together and making dance music.
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6. Whatâs the last song you listened to?
The last song I listened to, let me have a look⊠[he looks into his computer] .. a tune called âBeginnersâ by Angelo Ferreri. Just a tune for my sets. Didnât listen to it for pleasure, though. It kind of is a pleasure, but it was like a work thing. Do you want to hear a bit of it?
Sure! [we listen]
So thatâs why I spend most of my days doing, just trolling the internet looking for songs to go into my DJ sets⊠Iâll be honest, most of them I get sent. Iâm kind of seen as an influential DJ, and so record companies send me stuff. I get about 30 emails a day with people sending me the new tunes, but I make it a point to give everyone at least five seconds listen. Most of them I dislike. Like, âOkay, thatâs drum and bass.â âOkay, thatâs EDM.â But if I get one new good tune a week⊠thatâs why I get so excited when I find one I really like.
7. I understand youâre an art collector. Whatâs your collection like?
Itâs expanding rapidly at the moment. It started with Keith Haring. Basically I dug what he did on the Malcolm McLaren album, and then when I travelled being in a band, first place we went to Amsterdam, and first show I saw was a museum with a Keith Haring exhibition. Iâm like, âThatâs the dude that did the album cover,â so I went, and it just blew me away. It must have been about 1985.
So I started collecting Keith Haring, and then I was really into mainly street art. Iâve always collected it, but over the years as Iâve diversified a bit Iâve started working with artists. I love it, because Iâm a complete fanboy with artists. With other musicians, weâll talk shop, and the magic is somehow lost because I know how they make the records. But with artists itâs like, âHow do you do that? How do you come up with ideas?â
8. Youâre doing your own festival, All Back to Minehead, in the U.K. in November. You obviously play around the world and see every type of event. What are you doing to make this one uniquely yours?
Obviously I curate all the acts and entertainment. But the main two things for me are that the venue is a classic British holiday camp. In the â50s and â60s, that was what English people did, we went to holiday camps. Theyâre kind of chalets â some of them are like borderline army barracks⊠Thereâs this whole culture about it. Itâs where The Beatles cut their teeth, and all the bands used to go and play there. Itâs a very British institution. A few of these holiday camps still exist, and theyâre kind of [struggling], because now everybody can afford to go off to Ibiza and Spain.
The other thing is that the only thing uniting [the festival] is people who like my taste in music and my sense of humor. Itâs all ages, very strange cross section of society, but then you put 5,000 of them in a little village where we all live together for a weekend, and itâs hilarious. Itâs like the British version of Burning Man, only itâs not sunny or very picturesque. Itâs quite down and everybody dresses quite stupid and we donât think weâre very cool. But there is that feeling of community. I did it for the first time last year and didnât know if it would work, and it just absolutely knocked my socks off how everybody got involved.
9. Next month is the 25-year anniversary of Youâve Come a Long Way, Baby. What are your strongest memories of the release of the time the album was released, and its insane success?
The main thing I remember is just the momentum of it all. Iâm not a surfer, but I can imagine it was what being on top of a wave must feel like. Thereâs something behind you driving it along, and all you can do is try and stay on and ride it with a bit of style, because itâs going there anyway.
Musically, the whole big beat thing, everybody wanted a piece of us, because we were doing something different. Iâd just gotten married to the most famous TV presenter in England, so weâd become the celebrity couple. All of these things were driving it along. We were just having a lot of fun trying to stay on and throw a few shapes before the wave crested.
10. Are you satisfied with how you did on that wave?
Iâm still alive â which wasnât a given, considering some of my behavior at the time. I survived it. I rode it to the shore, but I didnât get on the next one.
11. By choice?
Yeah. It did freak me out somewhat. Because by that point, Iâd already been in the music business for 10 or 15 years, so it wasnât my first rodeo. But this just engulfs your whole life, and when youâve got photographers following you wherever you go, and if you fart in the wrong place you end up on the front page of the newspapers, it was quite scary. It wasnât quite what I was signed up for. You know Iâve always loved music, and I wanted to be a success and be appreciated for the music I made. But I never signed up for being famous. So I kind of took my foot off the gas, deliberately a bit â which, with the benefit of hindsight, 25 years later, here I stand. I still have a career, and I still have my health. So I think I did all right.
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12. Do you see your career ever coming to a close? Is there a retirement plan, or does it just go in perpetuity?
No, I tried retirement during lockdown. I had an enforced retirement for a year. Didnât agree with me at all. I think Iâve gotten to a point now where I can probably ride this one out until I drop. In some shape or form I think theyâll always be a place for me to be doing something. As long as Iâm enjoying it and other people are still enjoying it, I donât see any reason to stop.
13. Or even slowing down?
I mean, I donât do it at the same pace I used to. I turned 60 this year. I canât do the stupid things I used to, but Iâm quite happy to play until I drop. Athletes have to retire early, boy bands have to retire early, but with DJs, itâs not about our looks or our fitness or anything like that. We can go gray and bald and fat, because we were never supposed to be pinups anyway.
14. You mentioned the forced retirement of the pandemic. I imagine the disparity between being onstage, then just being in the silence and quiet of your house, and how that gulf is so wide. What was that time like for you?
Iâm all right with that. The thing I couldnât deal with is not having an outlet for my joy of music, because my love of music involves sharing it with other people. If I hear a new tune, Iâve got to play it with someone. Like a tree falling in the forest, and no one hearing it â if I donât share these tunes with people, for me, they donât have a life. Thatâs what I noticed during lockdown. Thatâs why I did a weekly podcast, because I still had to play these tunes to people.
Obviously, I donât want to live my whole life in that glamorous travel world, so I love coming home and doing the school run and being a quiet dad. But all the while Iâm stoking the fire, getting tunes ready for the next weekend.
15. Youâve been touring around the world this year, Europe, all over the U.K., Australia, New Zealand and a few days in the U.S. Is there anything special about American audiences?
Iâm always aware of the history. I played Chicago the other weekend, and just being in Chicago, where it all happened⊠I was in New York doing this show that I did with David Byrne, and Todd Terry turned up to the musical. To some of the Broadway producers, I was like, âFâking Todd Terry is here!â And they were like, âWhoâs Todd Terry?â
Iâm like, âGod, he invented house music right under your noses 30 or 40 years ago.â In England heâs revered as God because of what he did, but he kind of had to come to Europe to get famous. So Iâm very aware of going back to where things started, Detroit or Chicago or New York, where the music was was made.
16. Say more about that?
Iâve kind of had a bit of a checkered history [in the U.S.] I first came around 25 years ago, and things were going really well in America. I was over there a lot. Then EDM happened, and I didnât want to be on that wave, so I let things slip in America. I probably donât travel enough to America. Thereâs tons of stuff going on in Brazil and Argentina and Australia and Japan. And so yeah, America got a bit forgotten â which I do apologize for. But I like that I can come over and people are really not blown out, because they havenât seen me for 10 years.
17. Whatâs been the proudest moment of your career thus far?
The gigs on Brighton Beach. Iâve had six enormous gigs on the beach in my hometown. It doesnât get any much better than this, because I love the city that I live in. Iâm very, very proud of it. And they seem to be proud of me. Itâs a bit like a scene from the film, like the triumphant homecoming and local boy does good.
18. Whatâs the best business decision youâve ever made?
Employing my manager. The first person I met who wasnât my record company, in the music business, was a guy called Garry Blackburn. He was my plugger at first. That was 1985, and Iâve worked with him ever since. Heâs only about six years older than me, but heâs like my dad. Weâve been through heaven and hell together. More heaven than hell, but heâs been there for me during the crunchy bits. Heâs been really good for me, because he just allows me to do what I do and then translates that into business. Iâm useless in business. I have no idea.
19. Maybe you just answered my next question, but whoâs been your greatest mentor and whatâs the best advice they ever gave you?
The person whoâs most inspired me is David Byrne. He musically inspired me, then I worked with him writing this musical 15 or 20 years ago. Working with him really set me on a [path] of where I am today, doing other things outside music.
Look what he did: He started a record label and started putting out Brazilian music, then he does art things. Heâs got such an inquisitive mind about everything, always asking, âHow can we make it more fun?â Iâve just found him such an inspiration. Heâs been the blueprint. After working with him, I looked at all the other things heâd done and said, âWell, thatâs how you do longevity, by not being held back by, âIâve got to make an album every three years and have hits.â
Once youâve done enough albums to have hits and have a name, then itâs like, âWell, letâs flex some other muscles.â Letâs do an art project and other things in your life that interest you, letâs invite them into your life. If youâre respected enough, if your reputation is enough, then you get to hang out with other people and swap ideas and do things that arenât necessarily just about having hit records. He does things that interest him, rather than just being on the hamster wheel.
20. Whatâs one piece of advice youâd give your younger self?
Apart from, âTry not to do that, or marry thatâ â you know, notable mistakes â I would say just try and savor and remember more of it. There are huge amounts of things I donât remember from my partying days. Someone will say âWhat is Cher like?â and Iâm like âI never met Cher,â and theyâre like, âYes you did, you spent an evening with herâ and then they show me photos of me and Cher having a night out, and Iâm like, âOh my God.â
Someone said to me, when I got married, âTake time for the two of you to walk away from your guests for a couple of minutes and soak up the moment, because you want to remember your life.â That was really good advice â and it did work, because we remember that moment.
I just wish Iâd done a bit more of that, rather than doing everything by instinct and adrenaline, that Iâd sat back and took it all in, because Iâve had the most beautiful life. Iâve gotten to work my whole career in an industry I love, in and around music I love. Most people donât get to do that. Iâve done some really excellent and excellently fulfilling things. I just wish I remembered all of them.
Erika Jayne is getting ready to start up her very own Las Vegas residency, Bet It All on Blonde. The star will kick off her five-week stay at the House of Blues starting Friday (Aug. 25), but before gracing the stage, she sat down with Billboard News to tell fans what they can expect of […]

Last year was important for the expansion of SB19. Not only did the Philippinesâ reigning pop kings expand their worldview with their first English single, âWYAT (Where You At),â and visited cities throughout North America, Asia and the Middle East on their Where You At world tour, but saw their rising impact on charts like Billboardâs Hot Trending Songs chart when they became just the second-ever act to top the real-time Twitter-powered tally. In 2023, the members have taken it upon themselves to expand their individual music careers, including the solo debut of eldest member Josh Cullen.
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The rapper-singer-dancer showcased his full range of talents on his first single âWILD TONIGHTâ while embracing an image much darker than SB19âs beloved Pinoy-pop style. Adopting a vampire concept, the 29-year-old lets loose both visually in the music video and musically by changing his vocal styles and approaches throughout the track. âWILD TONIGHTâ marks significant growth from the more restrained energy Josh previously showed when he hopped on the remix to âSofa,â recorded with his cousin and fellow Filipino musician Ocho the Bullet. Cullen was clearly ready to unleash something much more powerful with the star saying that âWILD TONIGHTâ is just the first stroke in his burgeoning solo career.
Just when SB19âs adoring fansâaffectionately known as AâTINâthought they could pin Josh down as P-popâs dark and wild party boy, the star switched things up with his heavier second single, âPakiusap Lang,â that embraced edgier hip-hop and R&B beats sound while sharing his acting skills in the accompanying music video that explores the twists and turns in a complicated relationship.
Before the release of âPakiusap Lang,â and as rumors buzz that SB19 is gearing up to release new music ahead of their fifth anniversary in October, Josh found some time to sit down for Billboard to reflect on his solo career and what makes up his musical viewpoint in these 20 Questions.
âHonestly, if I could have a vacation right now, I totally would,â Cullen laughs when he thinks about how far he and his bandmates have come in these past years. âStill, I love what weâre doing and know I have to work hard to make it happen.â
Read on for more from Josh Cullen including new stories from his career, first musical memories, hints about future releases and more.
1. Where are you living and working from right now?
At the moment, I donât have a fixed location as Iâve been prioritizing my passion for music and exploring new experiences. Though Iâve come a long way in my personal and professional life, I know that there is still much more to learn, discover, and achieve. Iâm eager to see where this journey takes me and Iâm committed to working tirelessly towards my aspirations.
2. Youâve made your solo debut with âWILD TONIGHT.â Can you explain the significance of this moment for you and the meaning of the title?
As an artist, I chose to title my solo debut âWILD TONIGHTâ because I wanted to convey a sense of unleashing the beast or the fun inside oneself at night. Itâs about how a vampire might seek revenge or how a normal person might embrace their wild side. I think the title is significant because it represents a sense of liberation and escape from the mundane aspects of daily life. It also encourages listeners to embrace their individuality and uniqueness. To me, âWILD TONIGHTâ conveys a sense of excitement, energy, and a bit of danger. It invites people to join me on a journey of self-expression and exploration.
3. Your fans might be surprised to hear you both rapping and singing. Did you want to make sure of all sides of yourself with this first single?
I wanted to make sure that my fans get a glimpse of all sides of myself with this first single. I wanted to showcase everythingâfrom my music to dance, rap to singing, creativity, choreography and every little detail to be at its fullest potential. I have been working hard, perfecting my craft and waiting for the perfect opportunity to come forward. This is the moment Iâve been waiting for to show the world what Iâm truly capable of. Iâm excited to share this new chapter of my journey with them and hope they enjoy the music as much as I did creating it.
4. Going off the song title, âWILD TONIGHT,â can you recall your craziest night out?
When it comes to the craziest night out Iâve ever had, one experience definitely comes to mind. It all started innocently enough with my friends inviting me out to chill and grab a bite to eat. However, things quickly escalated when everyone ended up getting super drunk, myself included, and by the end of the night, I found myself in a situation where I was two hours away from home and had no idea how to get back. In the end, I ended up hopping on a bus and riding home, having my autopilot body switch activated. Looking back, it was definitely a wild night and not exactly what I had planned when I first agreed to hang out with my friends. But itâs a story that Iâll always remember!
5. Whatâs the first album or piece of music you bought for yourself, and what was the medium?
I donât quite remember the exact title, but I believe it was a Linkin Park album that I bought. I bought it on CD format because that was the most common way to buy music back then. I remember being so excited to have my own copy of the album and being able to listen to it whenever I wanted. It was a really important part of my younger years and I still have fond memories of listening to it on repeat.
6. You wrote and composed âWILD TONIGHT.â Tell us about how you worked on the lyrics.
Working on the lyrics was a bit of a struggle, to be honest. I wanted to make sure the vampire concept was in there, but also have it relate to real life. I was stuck on the first verse for days and couldnât come up with anything that felt right. But then, one night at 3 a.m., I had this crazy dream with the perfect lyrics and melody for the first verse. I was like, âOh, shit, I gotta record this now!â And it turned out to be exactly what I needed.
As for the pre-chorus, I also hit a roadblock and was struggling to come up with something catchy. I started brainstorming and thought to myself, âWhatâs something people will easily remember and sing?â I was running out of ideas and was like, âFuck it, letâs try this even if it sounds stupid.â Thatâs when I decided to throw in the âLa-la la laâ part. It was a crazy idea, but it ended up being the most catchy and memorable part of the song.
All in all, Iâm really proud of how it turned out and I hope the people can feel the passion and love that went into creating it.
7. You also co-produced the single. Whatâs your background with music production?
My background with music production is pretty limited. I donât really know much about music theory or anything like that. But Iâve dabbled in it a little bit and have been able to pick up some things along the way. I wouldnât say Iâm a pro or anything, but I think what Iâm good at is having a good ear and being able to make good judgments about the sounds and overall vibe of the music. And you know what, Iâm glad that my cousin Ocho [the Bullet] who is just as crazy as me, has co-produced the single with me. Itâs been a fun journey working together and bouncing ideas off each other. Weâre not afraid to experiment and push boundaries, which has led to some really unique and exciting sounds in the final product. Plus, being a performer for a long time, I have a good sense of what makes a great song and I think my experience on stage has given me a unique perspective on what works and what doesnât when it comes to producing music. So even though I donât have a formal education in music production, Iâm confident in my abilities and my passion for music always drives me to learn and improve.
8. There are a lot of interesting concept photography for âWILD TONIGHT.â Tell us about creating the visuals for the single.
For the visuals I really wanted to incorporate a lot of storytelling, representations, and metaphors. I didnât want to just spoon feed people with the answers. I had a lot of ideas and wanted to make sure every detail had a purpose, even down to the easter eggs. With the help of my production team, we were able to execute everything we wanted to do, from the CGI to the vampire traits. Iâm really proud of how everything came together and I think it really adds another layer to the song.
Shout out to my amazing production team, YouMeUs, for bringing my vision to life and giving me the quality that Iâve been longing for. They were able to understand my ideas and help me execute them in a way that exceeded my expectations. Without them, the visuals for âWILD TONIGHTâ wouldnât have been possible.
9. How did your hometown/city shape who you are?
Imus, Cavite is the place where I grew up and it definitely had a huge impact on shaping who I am today. The people, the culture, and the environment all played a role in my upbringing. Itâs where I experienced my firsts, my successes, my failures, and my challenges. Itâs where I developed my values, my principles, and my perspectives. Living in Cavite taught me to be resilient, resourceful, and determined. It also taught me to be compassionate, empathetic, and understanding. The experiences and memories that I have from my hometown are invaluable and have been instrumental in shaping who I am as a person and as an artist. It is where I began loving street food as well.
10. What was the first concert you saw?
The first concert I saw was the Dream K-Pop Fantasy Concert 2012 featuring Girlsâ Generation. As a fan of SNSD, it was a dream come true to see them perform live. They were one of my inspirations as an artist, and seeing them perform gave me a better understanding of the music industry. The concert was a memorable experience, and I still remember the energy and excitement of the crowd. It was definitely a pivotal moment in my music journey.
11. What was the biggest lesson you learned from SB19âs first world tour?
The biggest lesson I learned from SB19âs first world tour was how powerful music can be in bringing people from different cultures and backgrounds together. It was incredible to see how fans from all over the world connected with our music and performance, despite language barriers. The tour opened my eyes to the diversity of music and how it can transcend boundaries.
12. Did SB19âs world tour influence how you approached your solo debut?
Although the tour didnât directly inspire my current song âWILD TONIGHTâ it gave me a lot of inspiration for my future music. Being able to experience the different locations and cultures we visited on tour was a valuable experience that I have already drawn from in my future songs. Overall, the tour was an unforgettable experience that helped shape my approach to music and creativity.
13 Did the other SB19 members share feedback or their feelings about you debuting solo with âWILD TONIGHTâ?
To be honest, other members didnât provide specific feedback or express their feelings about it. However, they were all very supportive and encouraging. They commented positively on the music video and were happy with my solo endeavors.
14. Whatâs your go-to karaoke song?
My go-to karaoke song is âMartyr Nyeberaâ by Kamikazee, a popular rock band from the Philippines. The intro of the song actually sounds like The Flintstones theme, which is pretty cool. Whenever I sing this song, I go all out and even do some head banging. Itâs a really fun and energetic song to sing; it always gets the crowd going.
15. Are these new singles indicating more solo music is coming from you?
Yes, Iâve been working on a lot of songs. I was actually surprised that Iâve managed to compose a lot of songs in a short period of time. I will be releasing more songs that would allow people to get to know me better as an artist.
16. Whatâs at the top of your professional bucket list?
My ultimate professional goal is to make a meaningful impact on the Philippine music scene, particularly with OPM [Original Pinoy Music]. Iâm passionate about contributing to the growth and recognition of our distinct musical heritage, and Iâm determined to share it with a wider audience both locally and internationally. Additionally, I hope to inspire those who, like me, dream big and show them that with perseverance and hard work, anything is possible.
17. Whatâs one thing even your most devoted fans donât know about you?
I didnât make it to the hospital. I was born inside a car, ha!
18. Whatâs your message to fans who have been supporting SB19 and you?
I just want to say a huge thank you to all the AâTIN and BBQs out there who have been supporting us and me personally. It means the world to me to have such an incredible fanbase behind us, whether itâs for my solo projects or for SB19 as a group. The dedication and love that you have shown us are beyond words. Your unwavering support has helped us reach new heights, and we are forever grateful for your endless encouragement. You guys are the best, and we are honored to have you as part of our family.
19. Can you share anything about SB19âs plans for 2023?
While I canât spill all the beans just yet, I can tell you that weâre cooking up something big for everyone. You can definitely expect a bigger comeback and possibly a bigger tour. Weâre putting in a lot of effort and creativity to make sure itâs a great experience for everyone. Weâre really excited about it and canât wait to share more details soon. So, stay tuned and keep an eye out for more updates from SB19!
20. What else do you want to share with Billboard readers this time?
As a representative for OPM and Pinoy pop, I would like to extend an invitation to all the Billboard readers out there to watch out for more exciting music from us. We are thrilled to bring our unique sound and talent to the global scene, and we canât wait to show the world what weâre capable of. So, please, lend us your support by checking out other amazing artists and groups from the Philippines as well. We have a lot of incredible talent here, and weâre confident that youâll find something youâll love. Thank you for your time and we hope to see you soon!
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2023 has been a bittersweet year for Prince Paul. In a new interview, the pioneer discussed the passing of Dave aka Trugoy of, De La Soul and more.
Variety magazine caught up with the Long Island, New York native days after âThe D.A.I.S.Y. Experienceâ event in New York, where he and other high-profile talents celebrated De La Soulâs catalog finally being made available on streaming platforms. In an in depth Q&A with journalist Todd Gilchrist, Prince Paul discussed reuniting, his contributions to the seminal 3 Feet High and Rising and more.
When asked about the âThe D.A.I.S.Y. Experienceâ he admitted that the evening brought him back to simpler times with the legendary trio. âIt felt like a reunion of sorts because I havenât seen some people in 30 years â since De La Soul is from Amityville, we all have mutual friends, so they brought out a lot of those peopleâ he revealed.
He also added that the amount of people that pulled up for it was also humbling. âThe rappers that came out, the artists, the support was overwhelming. You knew people supported De La Soul, but you donât really know â at least I didnât really know â until that day. I havenât felt that much love in one Hip-Hop event, I think, ever in my life.â
Paul also revealed that is he currently working on restoring the debut album for the digital era. To hear him tell it, the task at hand isnât an easy one as he recognizes that he could be potentially mishandling a masterpiece. âYouâve got to figure out, okay, let me restore it. Whatâs the sample? Do we sample it again or do we replay it? And if we replay it, whatâs the level of accuracy?â he explained.
Paul also reveals that he too was fearful that their sophomore album De La Soul is Dead, which was drastically different than its predecessor, would not be received well by fans. âI was like, âI donât know how people are going to take this.â Thatâs why I did the skit at the front, where the guy was like, âThis is garbage!â Because I was like, âI donât know if people going to accept [this new attitude]â so Iâm going to beat them to the punch. Iâm going to create a scenario that the record is already scrutinized. Weâll do it for you!â
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After winning the CMA Awardsâ song of the year honors for his chart-topping hit âBuy Dirt,â and following that with the Country Airplay No. 1 hit âWhat My World Spins Around,â Jordan Davis admits reality has exceeded his expectations.
âI feel like Iâm playing with house money. I moved to town to be a songwriter and all I wanted to do is write songs,â says Davis, whose MCA Nashville album Bluebird Days comes out Friday (Feb. 17). âI think about those early goals, and I think about where Iâm at now, and Iâm just like, âGod is crazy. Heâs good. Iâm super, super blessed.ââ
Bluebird Days is an impressive 17-track set that includes 15 songs co-written by Davis that run the gamut from the spirited opening track, âDamn Good Time,â to the poignant homage to his grandfather, âFishing Spot,â to the title track, a haunting examination of his familyâs journey from happy times to the ache of his parentsâ divorce.
Bluebird Days is the Shreveport, Louisiana nativeâs second full length album, following 2018âs Home State, which spawned the Country Airplay No. 1s  âSingles You Up,â âSlow Dance in a Parking Lotâ and âTake it From Me.â Davis also released two EPs prior to Bluebird Days, including a 2020 self-titled set and a May 2021 release that included âBuy Dirt.â âBarring the two Covid years, I definitely think that we would have made a [full] record around the first EP,â he tells Billboard. âNot touring and being at home more took a little while to get used to, so my writing schedule got thrown off â not to mention shifted in what I was writing about.â
The deeper, more personal themes he tackles on Bluebird Days were a result of the downtime during the pandemic combined with the success of âBuy Dirt,â a multi-platinum duet with Luke Bryan that celebrated the things that truly matter in life and is included on Bluebird Days. âWhen you are touring, itâs hard not to stay in the touring mindset as you are writing a song,â he says. âYou start writing a song for a spot in the set and not necessarily just writing a song. With the space and with the time off, it allowed me to just truly sit down and write an honest real song. Without that time off, I donât think we would have written a lot of these songs that are on this album.â
In listening to Bluebird Days, Davis thinks people will recognize âthat weâre all pretty human.â Much of the album is written with frequent collaborators such as his producer Paul DiGiovanni, Josh Jenkins, Davisâ brother Jacob and Matt Jenkins (the latter three penned âBuy Dirtâ with Davis).
âWith us saying that we wanted to be honest with this album, there was no one foot in and kind of easing into this,â he explains. âItâs like, âAll right man, if weâre going to be honest, youâve just got to be honest,â whether itâd be talking about my temper on âShort Fuseâ or talking about the way I view money on âMoney Isnât Real,â how fast my kids are growing and the guilt I feel being gone half the year⊠thatâs all real stuff, and I know Iâm not the only person in the world thatâs going through that.â
In light of the recent accolades and success at radio, Davis admits he was a little apprehensive about his second full length effort, including picking âWhat My World Spins Aroundâ as the follow-up to âBuy Dirt.â âThe space between âBuy Dirtâ and âWhat My World Spins Aroundâ going to radio was the most nerveracking â and when âWhat My World Spins Aroundâ had the impact the way it did and ended up being a big song in its own right, I think that took a lot of the pressure off,â he says. âI was able to see I donât have to redo âBuy Dirtâ again â I just have to be honest and up front and real in the writing.â
To follow up âWhat My World Spins Around,â Davis says they almost went with another single before deciding to release âNext Thing You Know,â which Davis wrote with Greylan James, Chase McGill and Josh Osborne. âAfter a week of playing it live, I walked off stage one night and told my manager that Iâm an idiot if I donât give this song a chance at radio,â Davis says. âI donât know if Iâve had a song thatâs impacted the way this song has, even âBuy Dirt.â Itâs truly pretty special to watch. And it doesnât have a chorus, which is kind of weird. Itâs a totally linear story of life, but it doesnât matter if youâre 70, 50, 40 or 20 â you have a part in this song, and I truly feel like thatâs why so many people are gravitating to it.â
Even the songs he didnât write speak for him, including âMoney Isnât Real,â penned by Jake Mitchell, Jameson Rodgers, Josh Thompson, Sarah Turner. âI was trying to write this song called âWhen the Money Runs Out,â about, âWho you are going to be, what are people going to say about you, when the money runs out?â And I couldnât get it right,â Davis says. âJameson sent over âMoney Isnât Real,â and I remember being like, âHoly smokes! Iâve been trying to write this song for three years and you just sent me this song Iâve been trying to write.ââÂ
Danielle Bradbery joins Davis on âMidnight Crisis.â âThe first time I heard her sing, I was captivated, and sheâs just the sweetest person in the world,â he says. âI truly think sheâs on the verge of being one of the most powerful females in country music. I knew Danielle would crush it, and she was the only one we sent it to.â
Growing up in Louisiana, Davis was heavily influenced by the local sounds and acts coming through town. âThe special thing about Shreveport was it truly was a melting pot,â he says. âThere were places where you could go listen to traditional country. There were places that were doing writerâs rounds and clubs that would have rock bands. At 10-years-old, I was going to [defunct renowned Louisiana club] Western Sky because my Uncle Stan [Paul Davis] was playing there with his band. Texas country [acts] Robert Earl Keen and Pat Green would come play the casinos, and weâd go see them, and then jazz bands out of New Orleans would come up and me and my buddies would go see them. It was such a diverse musical city and I just pulled pieces from all that. I was lucky to grow up there.â
Initially, Davis didnât see himself on stage. Growing up, his brother Jacob was always the performer of the two siblings, following in the steps of their uncle, a local legend. âHe was playing all over Louisiana and I was just carrying his equipment in and out of venues,â Davis recalls. âSo when I moved to town, he was working on getting a record deal and I was trying to get a publishing deal.â
But Davis got discouraged when he saw his contemporaries landing publishing contracts that eluded him. Then a friend told him that songwriters who were also artists were much more attractive to publishing companies, and those were the writers who were getting signed. âI was like, âAll right, well, I want to be an artist too,ââ he says.  âI didnât want to bartend anymore. I wanted to just write songs.â
These days, heâs grateful to be doing writing and singing and spending time on the road playing his songs.  Heâs out with Thomas Rhett through February before heading to Europe to play the C2C festivals in March in London, Dublin and Glasgow. In the summer, Davis will tour with Dierks Bentley, and heâs planning a potential headlining tour for the fall. Â