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‘The Einstein of Rhythm:’ Grateful Dead’s Mickey Hart Remembers Zakir Hussain

Mickey Hart was with Zakir Hussain right until “the moment that he left this plane” on Dec. 15 at the age of 73– as well he should have been.

The Grateful Dead percussionist and Indian tabla master were tight, as friends and as musicians. They met in 1970 when Hussain’s father, Allarakha Qureshi, sent Hussain to knock on Hart’s tour and begin an association that started with Hart’s first solo album, Rolling Thunder in 1972, and continued until Hussain’s death, when the two were still working on a project that includes tuned hand drums, drones and sonic bathing. In between were Grammy Award-winning works as Planet Drum and the Global Drum Project, as well the Diga Rhythm Band in 1976 and number of other collaborations on Hart albums such as 1990’s At the Edge and Mickey Hart’s Mystery Box in 1996.

Hussain’s legacy also includes four Grammy Awards (three of them earlier this year), founding membership in the fusion band Shakiti and recordings with Pharoah Sanders, Bela Fleck and Edgar Meyer, John Handy, L. Shankar Charles Lloyd and more. Hussain also taught at Princeton University and Stanford University and received a Doctor of Law degree from the University of Mumbai.

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Hart tells Billboard that “the shock is still with us” from Hussain’s passing, but he was happy to share the great memories he has of his friend and fellow rhythmist.

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“You talk about someone who is a great rhythm master, you have to start with Zakir. He was an enormous influence on all genres, considering he crossed more borders, musically, than anybody I’ve ever met or known in history. There is no one that has traveled as far to do so much than Zakir, because he was constantly on the road, constantly spreading the rhythm seeds everywhere he went. Maybe every 1,000 years you get somebody like Zakir. He was the Mozart of his instrument, one of the greatest musicians who ever lived, a great tabla player and a great rhythmist. Zakir can play everything from spoons to his nose — he can play nose flute like a maniac, he does it all.

“He comes from a lineage of drummers, so it’s part of his DNA. He’s born to drums, so he was nurtured as a baby, when his father recited rhythms in his ear as an infant. Allarakha was my mentor, my teacher. I met him when Phil Lesh gave me a record called Drums of North and South India; he handed it to me and said, ‘You should hear this. This is for you,’ or something like that. When I listened to it I was just riveted. I really heard it, and I was never the same after that. It contained Allarakha, and I couldn’t believe what he was playing. It influenced a lot of Grateful Dead music because of the unusual time signatures…those kind of very complicated rhythmic gems that we really practiced for long periods of time to learn. I found (Allarakha) in New York in 1967, and he became my teacher.

“Then in 1970 Zakir knocked on my door; his father sent him to me because his father comes from the analog world, quiet, and Zakir was a young man when I met him. We lived together for awhile, and we really bonded and he opened himself up to the feel and the rhythms of the West. He was very strict — as he should have been from north Indian classical music where you’re supposed to be very accurate and everything is composed and traditional, ancient rhymes that are codified and only played one way, by everybody. In the West it was loud music and a new kind of rhythm, kind of funkier than he had played in the past, and he accepted that. I play that serpentine kind of way, move in and out of the groove and it slips and slide and everybody goes with it; that makes for an amazing, living creature as opposed to a pre-ordained rhythm.

“So he opened himself up to the West and he flourished in it. He loved it. We played together like it was meant to be. For me to be playing these north Indian classical rhythms was very difficult at first; it took months, years to come up to a level where Zakir was. He kinda came down and I went up and we met in the middle, that kind of thing. But it was very resonant; we felt love in the groove, and the groove was deep. He and his father both played on Rolling Thunder, my first solo work, and we went on to do so many records together. He was a colleague and a rhythm master, and our deep friendship translated into rhythm — I would say bliss is a good word to describe how it feels when we play together.

“It’s hard to say who he influenced — anybody who ever heard him, let’s put it that way, was not the same. A lot of people can’t understand him, but they can feel him. They hear someone with great passion playing rhythms they’ve never heard before. He’s the Einstein of rhythm — that’s a good way of thinking of him as a rhythmist and what he could do and speak in the rhythm language. He’s way above any other percussionist or rhythmist I’ve worked with on this planet. Maybe there’s somebody better on Mars, but not on earth — and I’ve heard a lot of them.

“Jerry (Garcia) joined us for At the Edge (1990). Jerry and Zakir got along really well. Jerry noticed immediately who he was and Zakir, of course, just loved Jerry’s musical style. The banjo, of course, is like a rhythm instrument and Jerry plays the guitar like a banjo. A lot of the bluegrass instruments work perfectly within Indian rhythms because of the nature of it, three against two, all these intertwining rhythms that go on in banjo playing and also in tabla. And, of course, that explains (Hussein’s) Bela Fleck collaboration, because of course he’s a master banjoist, or banjolero.

“(Hussein)’s just a very kind man, and he plays like that, too. He’s really good as a composer as well, and arranger. He can do it all. He can play anything, but he’s a kind man — very thoughtful, unbelievably generous. He started to teach in the 70s; he had thousands of students all over the world and he dedicated himself to teaching hem the traditional rhythms. He traveled everywhere, constantly; even when we were on tour, if we had three days off he would go to India to conduct the national symphony or accept the greatest honor and come back for sound check on Monday. He was able to travel long distances, and he had this system of meditation he would so he wouldn’t get jet lag, and that increased his proficiency. He was able to perform more and travel because of that. He just wouldn’t stop.

“We’re starting to unearth so much of what we never got (released), never hit the street, which is voluminous. You’ve got to remember we’ve been recording since 1970, so there’s a lot of Zakir Hussein, and you bet I’d like to work on a Zakir Hussein compilation and keep his music alive, and that’s what I’m about to do.”

In the meantime, Hart and Grateful Dead mates Bob Weir and Bill Kreutzmann will be featured on CBS’ broadcast of the Kennedy Center Honors, where they were feted on Dec. 8, on Dec. 22. “It was surprisingly a lot of fun, and profound in many ways,” Hart says of the ceremony, where the Dead men were celebrated alongside Francis Ford Coppola, Bonnie Raitt, Arturo Sandoval and The Apollo theater. “It was nice to be honored, but it was not essential. It’s hard to be honored for something that it’s a privilege to do, you know? You don’t do it for medals…but it was a great show for the arts, to be able to show how powerful (it is) and that music can cover so much ground in so many different ways.”

The group’s current incarnation, Dead & Company, will become the first act to launch a second residency at Sphere in Las Vegas, with an 18-show Dead Forever — Live At Sphere that starts March 20. The six-weekend run will celebrated Dead & Company’s 10th anniversary, and Hart promises “all new compositions and ‘Drums and Space,’” that will build on what the group did earlier this year. “

“If you’re in a place for a long enough period of time you start to learn the room; you play the room as if the room is your instrument,” Hart explains. “We’re just playing it loose and playing it from the heart, and we serve the music. That’s what musicians do. We’re just working musicians, and Sphere is such a great place to work.”

Ariana Grande Explains Why Touring Isn’t in Her Plans | Billboard News

Ariana Grande explains why touring her latest album isn’t in her plans and we break down how ‘Wicked’ songs are taking over the charts. Keep watching for more!

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Ariana Grande is saying she’s halting the possibility of touring as ‘Wicked’ mania hits a high pitch with some radio smashes. We have the story. Ariana Grande spoke to Variety about her passion for acting and taking a break from the road. She stated: “I feel so grateful to be acting, and I think my fans know that music and being on stage will always be a part of my life, but I don’t see it coming anytime soon.” She added: “I think acting is feeling like home right now. I am appreciative for [my fans’] understanding. I’m so grateful for the ways in which we’ve grown together over this whole journey with ‘Wicked.’ But music will always be a part of my life.”

As award season approaches, her role in the movie musical ‘Wicked’ is getting all the buzz and radio play. Grande’s “Popular” has hit No. 27 on Adult Pop Airplay and No. 29 on Pop Airplay, while her and Cynthia Erivo’s “Defying Gravity” debuts on both rankings at No. 39. Are you sad to see Ari depart from her personal music for a while? Let us know in the comments.

Chlöe Bailey & Burna Boy Spark Dating Rumors With New Pics | Billboard News

Chlöe Bailey and Burna Boy were seen getting cozy, which quickly turned into fan speculation of their relationship status. Keep watching to learn more!

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Are Chlöe Bailey and Burna Boy more than just friends? Well, Spotify is fanning the flames on their ‘Love Language’ playlist. Chlöe and Burna have set dating rumors ablaze after being spotted hanging out in Lagos, Nigeria. Rumors started swirling when the “Boy Bye” singer landed in Lagos on Sunday and was welcomed with a massive bouquet of flowers. But things really heated up when she and Burna Boy were spotted arriving at a venue in his signature purple Lamborghini. Clubgoers saw them dancing together, and then they were later seen exiting the spot holding hands. With cuffing season in full swing, it looks like these two might have found their perfect match. Billboard has reached out for comment. Neither Chlöe nor Burna Boy have commented on their relationship status at the time of this reporting. For more hip-hop news, keep it locked here at Billboard.

Rihanna Gets a Special Present From Mariah Carey at Her Christmas Concert | Billboard News

Rihanna attended Mariah Carey’s last Christmas concert, and the pop superstar gifted Ri something special to remember the night. Keep watching to see their interaction and the gift!

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Say what, RiRi?! Rihanna lived her best life at Mariah Carey’s last Christmas show in Brooklyn, including getting her boobs signed. Let’s get festive. Rihanna was at the show with A$AP Rocky and bestie Jason Lee couldn’t believe Mariah was even approaching her. She is literally all of us. The way she grabbed the mic. Best moment ever. And my favorite part? Never ever try and catch the queen in bad lighting or from her bad side.

 Jelly Roll’s Statement After Meeting Donald Trump | Billboard News

Jelly Roll’s fans had mixed opinions after he met and chatted with President-elect Donald Trump at a UFC match. Keep watching to see what he had to say.

Do you agree with his statement? Let us know in the comments!

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Jelly Roll was spotted shaking hands and smiling with President-elect Donald Trump at a UFC match, and it had fans debating about his political opinions. He’s finally speaking up. The “I’m Not Okay” singer cleared the air alongside his wife Bunnie XO on an episode of her ‘Dumb Blonde’ podcast, explaining: “We were told that the president is the highest honor in the world. When you meet a president, that’s a f—ing honor, no matter if you like them or not.”

He detailed his approach saying: “Dude, there’s not a chance in hell that I’m not going to meet the President-elect. I don’t care — if I got a call to meet Joe Biden, I would have stopped at any point and meet him. I don’t care about what he thinks or I think about policies. I don’t hide behind the ‘I’m not political stuff’. I’m not political!”

And lastly, he added Trump likes his music stating it was more relaxed than people think, with Trump telling him that he loves the song “Save Me” and that the star is “doing incredible things.”

Mariah Carey Ties Her Longest Hot 100 Run & More | Billboard News

Mariah Carey is on the cusp of breaking her longest Hot 100 run, she’s ready to wrap up her Christmas tour and more. Keep watching to see all the latest news on the queen of Christmas!

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Big news for Mimi as Mariah Carey ties her own record and one with Lil Nas X, whom she might top in the future. All as she was sick but is prepared to close out her tour. We have the updates. Mariah had to cancel 3 holiday tour shows due to flu and was really devastated, but she’s making her return to the stage in Boston tonight for the last show of the tour stating: “Thank you for making my #ChristmasTime so special ❤️ I’ve loved singing with you every night.” This comes as news dropped of her grabbing a 16th week at No.1 on the Hot 100 with “All I Want for Christmas Is You” tying her longest running No. 1 “One Sweet Day” with Boyz II Men. She now also ties for longest running streaming No. 1 with “Old Town Road” at 20 weeks. Both “Old Town Road” and Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” have topped the Hot 100 19 times. Will Mimi’s Xmas bop reach that milestone one season? We’ll have to wait and see!

Dua Lipa, KUN & More Kick Off Billboard’s Inaugural Global No. 1s Series | Billboard News

Dua Lipa & more kicked off Billboard’s inaugural ‘Global No. 1s’ series, partnering with 10-plus global editions to showcase their No. 1s. Keep watching for all the details!

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It doesn’t get more global than Dua Lipa. Billboard is launching its inaugural ‘Global No. 1s’ series, an initiative to spotlight top-charting artists from around the world. Billboard partnered with its 10-plus global editions to showcase distinct voices topping their local charts. Three of those covers launched today including this stunning UK cover from Dua Lipa. Billboard Japan is highlighting Creepy Nuts. Billboard China introduces you to KUN. Stay tuned throughout the week to discover who else is No. 1!

2024 BBMAs: Relive the Best Performances, Winners & More | Billboard News

Relive the best performances, biggest winners and more highlights from the 2024 Billboard Music Awards, presented by Marriott Bonvoy.

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Tyla, Shaboozey and more highlights from the 2024 Billboard Music Awards, presented by Marriott Bonvoy. Superstars from all genres up the ante with performances from around the world. And the big night was hosted by comedian and actress Michelle Buteau. “We’re hosting this awards show. Bang. Bang. A little differently.” Shabozeey celebrated the success of “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” with an exclusive performance from W Hollywood, part of Marriott Bonvoy’s portfolio of hotel brands. Meanwhile, Tyla strutted her stuff across the pond when she performed “PUSH 2 START”and “SHAKE AH” with a cameo from Pete & Bas from London. And STRAY KIDS showed us their showmanship with a medley of “CHK CHK BOOM”  and “JJAM” from South Korea. As for the night’s big winners, Taylor Swift took home a total of 10 awards, while Zach Bryan followed with five awards, and Morgan Wallen with four. The 2024 Billboard Music Awards are presented by Marriott Bonvoy, over 30 hotel brands and 10,000 global destinations. For a full list of BBMA winners, head over to Billboard.com.

Lady Gaga, Dua Lipa & More Surprise in ‘A Carpool Karaoke Christmas’ | Billboard News

AppleTV + dropped the holiday special ‘A Carpool Karaoke Christmas’ with Lady Gaga, Chappell Roan and Dua Lipa karaokeing on the road. Keep watching for more!

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Gaga singing “Christmas Tree”?! Zane Lowe grabbed the keys from James Corden as Apple TV+ just surprise-dropped ‘A Carpool Karaoke Christmas’ and it’s got all your favs. Our queen Chappell Roan. The hour-long special takes viewers on a whirlwind global caroling adventure from Tokyo to Missouri to Los Angeles. Hey Dua Lipa. And of course we go gaga for Gaga. ‘A Carpool Karaoke Christmas’ is now streaming on Apple TV+.

Sexyy Red, Future, Travis Scott & More Light Up the Stage at 2024 Rolling Loud | Billboard News

Sexyy Red, Future, Travis Scott, Shaboozey, JT help celebrate 10 years of Rolling Loud by lighting up the stage in Miami for this year’s festival.

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Here are some of the best moments from this year’s Rolling Loud in Miami! Rolling Loud celebrated 10 year with a jam-packed lineup! This year’s festival featured everyone from Sexyy Red to Shaboozey to Future to Owen Wilson. Yep, actor Owen Wilson … more on that to come.

Sexyy Red had that crowd turnt with her bevy of hits from “Pound Town” to her ballad “U My Everything,” but the crowd went crazy when she closed out her set to “Get It Sexxy.” Bringing a little country to the proceeding, Shaboozey hit the stage and had the whole fest “Tipsy.” He performed his hit while also treating the crowd to a special set of his, song from his markedly more hip-hop inflected sophomore LP. Florida native JT made her solo Rolling Loud debut this weekend. The crowd embraced the Miami rapper as she danced choreo to “Uncle Al,” rapped “No Bars” and cheered her on as she performed her chart topping track “Okay.”

Future literally lit the stage on fire. Before the Atlanta rapper even began his set, a decoy Future walked across the stage while engulfed in flames. Pluto then tore through some of his biggest hits, including 2012’s “Same Damn Time,” 2015’s “March Madness” and 2022’s “Wait for U.”

Arriving in a helicopter, Travis Scott not only had the crowd going nuts with a melody of songs including his smash hit “Fe!n,” which he played five times in a row. On top of that, Travis brought out actor Owen Wilson to kick off “Fe!n,” which doubled as a scene from Owen’s upcoming film entitled Rolling Loud.

Watch the full video above!