African Rookie of the Month

Billboard is expanding its Rookie of the Month interview series by highlighting rising stars from more genres like dance and rock. But the new crop of artists emerging out of the African continent have continued making it clearer that their music can exist beyond the borders of āAfrobeatsā and should not be broadly and lackadaisically labeled as such. āIt has African intonations in it,ā Tems said of her genre-bending music during her Women in Music interview last year.
Like Tems, many African artists have discovered one-of-a-kind ways to express themselves that cannot fit into one box while staying true to their roots. And Billboard is dedicating a spotlight to them through our new African Rookie of the Month series, which Odeal and Qing Madi kicked off in January and February, respectively, and Taves is continuing in March.
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Tavesā drive to make music that transcends genre and geographical borders and touches people started out with a long one.
The 21-year-old Nigerian artist (real name Toluwanimi Aluko) discovered Aį¹£a during long road trips with his father from Ibadan, where Taves grew up starting at the age of eight, to his birthplace of Port Harcourt, where his father continued living and working. Inspired by her signature guitar, Taves took up the instrument. And listening to heartfelt lyricists like Ed Sheeran and Khalid āprogrammed my brain to look for deeper meaning when it comes to songwriting,ā he tells Billboard.
While he was studying computer science at the Ibadan International School, he also studied a melting pot of genres while recording his own demos on his phone. āI donāt think I met any conventional Afrobeats artists. Everybody was on something different, whether it be R&B or pop or soul music,ā says Taves. āThey would still be speaking Yoruba or Pidgin in their songs, but that might have been the only thing that connected it back to Afrobeats. There was a lot of experimentation, and it was very beautiful to see.ā
His brother got him into the studio for the first time in 2019, when he dropped his debut EP The Nest: First Day Out, followed by 2020ās 17 and 2021ās 18. Taves later began posting covers of popular Afrobeats tracks like Ayra Starr and CKayās āBeggie Beggieā and Lojayās āMotoā that felt more like open verse challenges rather than straight-forward covers. But his buzzworthy rendition of BNXNās 2022 single āFor Daysā became a turning point in his career when it caught the attention of the original singer. They met less than a week later, which Taves describes as āone of the coolest moments of my whole life,ā and eventually signed to BNXNās label To Your Ears Entertainment. āHe is the best thing that has happened to my ears for a while now. A BREATH OF FRESH AIR,ā BNXN posted on X in 2023.
That same year, Taves scored a deal with Atlantic Records UK and a feature on BNXNās debut studio album Sincerely, Benson. But he says that āa lot of people heard my music for the first timeā last spring with āFolake,ā an ā80s synthpop-meets-R&B ballad, with undeniable influence from The Weeknd, thatās since become his biggest hit to date.
āWhat keeps me alive as a creative is always finding the next thing to try. Because I love trying new things, especially when it comes to genres,ā says Taves. āIām introducing people to a new sound Iām trying to craft. Itās not Afrobeats. Itās not whatever genre it is. Itās a new third thing.ā
His EP Are You Listening?, which was released last July, finds Taves fine-tuning his mĆ©lange of Afropop, R&B, soul and folk and suave melodies paired with romantic songwriting, while paying homage to Aį¹£a on the album cover by featuring the vinyl edition of her 2007 self-titled LP. And Taves linked back up with his label boss on the swaggering standout track āCWTā (which stands for āCertified Walking Testimonyā), which Wizkid was a fan of. Ā
BillboardĀ spoke with Marchās African Rookie of the Month about signing to BNXNās label following his viral āFor Daysā cover, the hardest part about making his latest EP Are You Listening? and being called āthe Nigerian Weeknd.ā
When did you know music was your calling?
Probably when I was eight or nine years old. Thereās this artist that Iāve loved listening to since I was young, Aį¹£a. She plays the guitar. Thatās pretty much her trademark. I taught myself how to play the guitar when I was nine. I didnāt even know I could sing at the time. I just wanted to do anything to be like her. Thatās pretty much when I knew that this would be my thing.
How did you discover her music?
My dad and I used to go on really long road trips because he worked far away in another state. He played a lot of old music, and at the time, her music was hot, current. I donāt really remember a lot of the other songs, but the ones that he played from Aį¹£a are stuck in my brain.
Outside of Aį¹£a, who are some of your other favorite artists whom you grew up listening to?
Ed Sheeran, Khalid, Passenger. I never really listened to Afrobeats music when I was younger. I donāt have a lot of people I look up to in that space, from that time. I do now. I could say Wizkid, though, ācause my siblings used to listen to his music a lot ā and it was nice, it was sweet.
What kind of music do you listen to now?
I like country music, because of Post Malone and Shaboozey, [thatās] what Iām on mostly now. Obviously, The Weeknd, pop music. I donāt really listen to conventional rap. I like trap music, though. And obviously Afrobeats.
How did you transition from covering other artistsā songs to singing your own?
There was a point where I was singing their songs in my own way, but then transitioned into writing a verse. It turned into what it would sound like if I was on this song. I used to write songs when I was young, so it was like practice. I just did it for fun. I wasnāt expecting anything to come out of it. It was very easy for me to transition from doing covers of peopleās songs to writing and recording my own songs.
You signed to BNXNās label To Your Ears Entertainment after you covered his song āFor Daysā in 2022. How did you two initially connect, and what is your working relationship like with him?
I posted the cover on a Sunday night, and then we met five days after. I was really excited to meet him because I was the biggest fan, and he wanted to meet me because he had plans for me after seeing that cover. That was one of the coolest moments of my whole life. Heās like my big brother, heās still my OG.
Whatās the best piece of advice heās given you?
I wasnāt used to hate on the internet, and I didnāt know how to handle it. I saw a comment that came out of nowhere, somebody that wanted to ruin my day ā or if they were having a bad day, they wanted everybody to have a bad day. I sent it to [BNXN] and was like, āI donāt understand what I did for this person to say this to me.ā
He first asked me how it made me feel, and I told him I was confused and kind of upset. Then he told me, āThese people that are talking about you online, they only work with what youāre giving them. I donāt think thereās any situation where any artist gives 100% of themselves for the whole world to see. They donāt know you. Theyāre just going off of what theyāre seeing, and the additional hate that they have in their hearts.ā Thatās how he takes it, and why he never lets it bother him. That really helped me, because now anytime I see negative comments, itās funny.
Your 2023 single āEleyeleā caught the attention of Atlantic Records UK, where you eventually signed. Why was that the right decision for you?
It was the right decision for me because as much as I love where Iām from, and Iām always going to rep where Iām from, at the time and even up until now, our interests aligned. Everybody was of the opinion that we needed to take what we were doing here, what I was making and what the whole team was doing, and take it out into the world. It couldnāt just be confined to where we are. Nigeria is a very beautiful place, and I love Nigeria, but I wanted more than that. And they wanted more for me as well after hearing my music. It just worked.
Take me back through the making of your latest EP Are You Listening?
I started working on it December of 2023. The name Are You Listening? came from my stylist Fadil, heās part of my creative team. We were bouncing ideas back and forth and then he just said it. At the time, it didnāt really stick in my head, but I was writing down everything that was being said. When I got back home and was going over [my notes], itās the one that jumped off the screen for me. It represented everything that I was trying to say with the project.
Song selection was the hardest part. I knew what I wanted the theme of the project to be, so making music in that direction was not really an issue. There was a lot of back-and-forth when it came to recording and the mixes. But [with] the song selection, there were many clashing views about what would work and what wouldnāt work. But we all were satisfied with the final product that came out. That was one of the most interesting processes of my life, because Iāve put projects together before, but Iāve never had any outside opinions because I was independent for the longest time. There are more people that have more experience than I have that are giving me input, so it helps me make an informed decision.
I read in your Deeds Magazine interview that the project was originally titled Homecoming and set to be released in February 2023. What happened? Did you scrap that project and make Are You Listening? from scratch? Or was it a redirection of the project you had already been working on?
I scrapped that project because none of the songs that were supposed to be on that Homecoming project ended up on Are You Listening? And Are You Listening? had more songs than I had originally planned for Homecoming. It just wasnāt the right time. In the moment, I had issues with patience. I just wanted [Homecoming] done and out. I felt like I had a lot of stuff to prove, so I just wanted to rush through it.
But it didnāt work out; there was always some obstacle. āEleyeleā was supposed to be on that project, but that was the only song that dropped off the project. All the other ones are still on my phone. They havenāt dropped. I had to hold off for more opportunities to find me before I finally took that step. Iāve grown a lot since then.
In the Apple Music description of the EP, you said you ālistened to The Weeknd a lotā when you were making your 2024 hit āFolake.ā What inspires you the most about his music? Is it true that people call you āthe Nigerian Weekndā?
They do. I donāt really get that, to be honest. I donāt hear it. It might be the instrumental of āFolakeā that makes people say that, that might be the only similarity in my music and his that people hear. There are other things that Iāve taken from The Weeknd for inspiration, like songwriting. I love the way he writes his songs. Thereās nobody that does it like that.
At the time, I was listening to a lot of his music, and the thing with me is if Iām listening to a certain genre of music, I love taking my time to digest it and texting my producer, āYo, I heard this song and itās so cool. You should listen to this album, that album, and then we should get in the studio and see if we can do something in that direction.ā I was having fun, and thatās how that song came about.
You also wrote that āApologyā āis one of the only songs where Iāve been able to put what happened in a certain situation down exactly as it happened, and the way it made me feel.ā How were you able to open up in āApologyā in a way you hadnāt really with most of your songs?
The session I did I originally did not want to do because I was in Ghana for a Warner Music writing camp. I had just come from doing sessions all day, so I was pretty exhausted. My manager invited this producer Saszy [Afroshii] [because] he wanted us to work together. I was like, āMan, Iām tired. I just want to fall asleep.ā She still pulled up anyway, so I was like, āAlright, cool. Letās do it. We can put some ideas down.ā I wasnāt prepared and I was super exhausted, so all my barriers that I normally have up were down when it comes to saying things a certain way.
On āApology,ā Iām saying it exactly how it is. I wasnāt trying to be clever. I wasnāt trying to use any kind of word play or symbolism. I was just saying how it happened. And thatās very rare for me, personally, because it takes me a while to get over major situations in my life. It was still pretty fresh in my mind, so it was very easy for me to just lay it all out. We finished that song there and then. The only thing that we added on later was the choir, but we finished that song [in] an hour max, so two hours [total] to finish.
Not only are you Billboardās African Rookie of the Month, but youāre also up for Rookie of the Year at the 2025 Headies. What does that title mean to you?
It means Iām doing something right and Iām one of the new kids on the block, which I am to some extent. Iāve been making music for almost six years now, but I just had my moment last year and [there are] still a lot of moments to come this year, hopefully. I was super excited when I saw I had been nominated, but it still hasnāt really hit me what it means. All I know is something has to be clicking for them to see me and think this guy is one of the people that potentially deserves this award. Even the people Iām nominated with are some of the craziest artists out in Nigeria right now. Itās an honor to even have my name in the conversation.
Whatās been the biggest āpinch meā moment of your career so far?
I met Burna Boy and he invited me to his house. Burna Boy is him. Heās one of the biggest African artists, not just right now, in history. Every time something like that happens, itās like, āI have to be doing something right.ā Thereās that, thereās being nominated for the award, thereās that cover I did to BNXNās song and he loved it so much that we started working together and weāve been working together ever since.
I think that Burna Boy moment was insane, because we used to listen to Burna Boy when I was still in university, and we were seeing all these things happen in real time ā dropping his Outside album and then Twice as Tall, doing all these stadium shows. Somebody who is at that level in this music thing that weāre all trying to do, telling me, āOh, I like what you are doing. You should come to the house sometime.ā Man, it blew my mind.
How did you and Eric Bellinger collaborate on āBacktrackā from his 2024 album Itāll All Make Sense Later?
My manager [Kolawole Omoboriowo] was an A&R on Ericās project. They were looking for certain features [because] he wanted to make an Afrobeats album. My manager sent me a couple of the songs that they were working on, but āBacktrackā is one that really stood out to me ā the way he was singing, the melodies, what he was talking about. It was super easy for me to blend on that. I did that, he loved it, and I ended up going on the album. We didnāt meet up until last month in L.A., but weāve been talking over the phone. Eric is really cool, heās the nicest guy you will ever meet ā because you can tell that he really, really loves the music that he makes. Itās nice to have his energy around.
You posted on Instagram last month that you and Bas linked in the studio. How did that happen?
That was really crazy because Iām a huge Bas fan since I heard the Dreamville project a couple years ago. And thereās this song that Bas has with Ayra Starr on the Creed III soundtrack. Apparently, he was a fan of me, too. So it was really easy for us to blend and work together. We made a couple cool records. He and my manager had been talking, and Bas was telling my manager that he was a fan of my music. And my manager didnāt know that I like Bas as much as I do, so when he told me, I was like, āThatās very sick.ā It was a very organic link. Heās such a nice guy. I love that he brings a whole new angle to the song.
Who would you love to collaborate with this year?
Lojay. I personally think heās one of the best artists that have come out of Nigeria in a while. PinkPantheress. Iām such a fan. We could make some really cool stuff. Victony. His album last year might have been the best album that dropped out of Nigeria. There were so many crazy ones, but his really stood out. And if things go my way, because I feel like everybody in the industry would say this, but Rema is also one of my favorites.
Whatās next for Taves in 2025?
A new project with a special twist, but I canāt let that be known right now. [Itās] an EP. Itās not album time yet, but everybody will know when itās album time.
Billboard is expanding its Rookie of the Month interview series by highlighting rising stars from more genres like dance and rock. But the new crop of artists emerging out of the African continent have continued making it clearer that their music can exist beyond the borders of āAfrobeatsā and should not be broadly and lackadaisically labeled as such. āIt has African intonations in it,ā Tems said of her genre-bending music during her Women in Music interview last year.
Like Tems, many African artists have discovered one-of-a-kind ways to express themselves that cannot fit into one box while staying true to their roots. And Billboard is dedicating a spotlight to them through our new African Rookie of the Month series, which Odeal kicked off in January and Qing Madi is continuing in February.
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Qing Madi learned in high school that āthe only reason a queen exists is because of the king.ā But her majestic moniker ā pronounced āKingā and spelled with a āQā to symbolize her femininity ā honors her rapid ascent in the African music space, and foreshadows her lasting reign. Ā
Upon graduation, the Benin City native (real name Chimamanda Pearl Chukwuma) moved to Lagos with her family and started writing songs for the countryās stars like Skales, Iyanya and Larry Gaaga. While she was grateful her pengame paid the bills, she also posted covers on TikTok and freestyles with guitarist and producer Wademix on Instagram. āHe created this safe space where I could create my music even though I didnāt have a platform or anyone that was going to download it,ā Madi, now 18, tells Billboard at Soho Warehouse in downtown Los Angeles, California.
One day, she went to the studio to record backup vocals for Blaqbonez, and his producer Ramoni played her the beatās warped acoustic guitar loop and subtle trap hi-hats. Madi asked Ramoni if she could freestyle over it, and her poignant debut single āSee Finishā was born in 2022. āI never put out anything original, because I wasnāt bold enough and didnāt think people would like it,ā she told Billboard in an interview last year.
The viral TikTok success of āSee Finishā eventually landed Madi a label deal with JTON Music and Columbia Records via BuVision. With only three singles to her name ā āSee Finish,ā āWhyā and the saucy standout āOleā ā Madi opened her āOleā collaborator BNXNās six-date U.S. tour in October 2023, before dropping her eponymous debut EP the following month. The seven-track project melds her sweet R&B melodies and innocent, imaginative lyricism about embracing love and what the future holds while not letting her enemies get the best of her with irresistibly smooth Afropop production. āVisionā ā a mesmerizing Afrobeats/R&B track Madi believes is āthe most perfect thing Iāve ever writtenā ā received an even dreamier remix treatment from her Columbia labelmate Chlƶe for the deluxe edition of Qing Madi.
But for her debut studio album I Am the Blueprint, which dropped at the end of January, thereās only room for the Qing. Sheās self-assured in the artist sheās always meant to become, and incredibly in tune with her emotions when it comes to love.
āYou can tell that this is coming from a teenager, someone whoās lived a certain life and is trying to open her heart to the public,ā she says. āMy music is euphoric, itās timeless. Itās going to live 100 years, even when Iām gone.ā
Below, BillboardĀ speaks with Februaryās African Rookie of the Month about the years-long journey of making I Am the Bluepint, the meaning behind her blue motif, how āThe Rumble in the Jungleā inspired her single āAli Bomaye,ā and why ālove songs are the easiest songs to write.ā
My first question has to be about Kendrick Lamarās Super Bowl halftime show performance since youāre a superfan of his. What did you think about it?
There were a lot of things were I was like, āKendriiick.ā I liked the Easter eggs, especially with the [Laughs] āA minorā necklace. I liked the coordination of Uncle Sam. There was a lot of stuff I pinpointed and was like, āWow, this is so tough.ā I like the fact he didnāt start with āNot Like Us,ā because that was such an expected move. It was so sick.
When did you know music was your calling?
I genuinely believed songwriting was my calling because I loved it so much. I liked impressing other people because I would sing what I had written and everyone was like, āOh, this is so sick!ā I felt fulfilled. I never had stage fright, I was quite confident, but I didnāt think the world would put me in a position where I had to sing my own lyrics. But when I blew up on TikTok, and I got signed and started performing, I was like, āOoh, this is definitely what Iām meant to do.ā Ā
I read in your OkayAfrica interview that you were āvery jealousā of people who got to sing your lyrics, because āpeople appreciated it way more, because they had a familiar face in front of it.ā How did you eventually transition from songwriter to the stars to a star in your own right?
It was really God ā because originally, I hated the fact that I couldnāt really be a face to my music. I felt like I was selling a part of me, and I couldnāt argue with it because I was getting money off of it. But then I was always intimately hurt by the fact that I couldnāt really say, āYo, these are my lyrics youāre singing!ā I didnāt think it was possible, because at the time I was doing all of this, there wasnāt a lot of African female artists that were being appreciated. This space was very small for us. Once the new people started popping up, and I popped up, I was like, āOh, OK, yāall letting us in? Thanks.ā [Laughs.]
What kind of music did you grow up listening to, and how did that influence the music that you make?
I grew up listening to Kendrick Lamar, Brandy and a lot of other artists that Iām not even certain I know their names, because I lived next to a bar [that] used to play music all night. I would fall asleep to ā90s R&B. And then I fell in love with rap music. Because of how much storytelling Kendrick has in his songs, I always want to think my songs should have a direction, a storyline, a target. Iām trying to hit a particular nerve or emotion. Iām like, āOK, if Iām writing a heartbreak song, there has to be a reason, a subject and a person.ā I also listened to a lot of Wande Coal ā heās an African GOAT, melodic genius.
And what kind of music do you listen to now?
Kendrick Lamar. I was listening to GNX, DAMN., To Pimp A Butterfly. Itās a nostalgia thing, because I grew up on him. Listening to him puts me back in Benin [City], in that house.
Youāve also sung background vocals for other artists. How did you get on Wizkidās 2023 āDiamondsā track?
My friend P. Prime called me and told me he needed assistance on a particular record. I pulled up to put my vocals on the song ā but when I got there, I met Wizkid and Wande Coal. I was like [nervously chuckling], āHi.ā That is such a random thing to do on a Tuesday. Growing up, [I was] in school and trying to have discussions about these artists, and now Iām right in front of them [and] on their songs. It was an insane feeling.
They really did a good job of making me feel comfortable. [Wizkid] vocally led me on what he wanted, because he knows exactly what he wants on his record. He loved it, he was like, āYeah, this is it. Itās perfect.ā Ā
How did you get Chloe on the āVisionā remix?
For my deluxe, I remember my team saying we have to get a feature on a record. And Iām like, āOh, āAmerican Love.āā And they were like, āNo, no, no, no. We canāt hear nobody on it. We want to get a feature for āVision.āā At the time, I was like, āI cannot hear anybody on āVision.ā That is my baby, do not put nobody on that record.ā I was so against it. Then they went ahead and reached out to Chloeās team and sent her the record. She recorded her verse, and they sent it to me.
I loved it a lot, I canāt even lie. I was like, āWow.ā I never thought anyone would sound good on āVisionā ācause itās such an alternative track, and Iām like, āWhat are you going to add to it? Itās perfect.ā But she really brought out a different perspective, and because sheās an R&B-based artist, it was such a perfect blend.
When you toured the U.S. for the first time with BNXN in 2023, how was seeing your fans live and the way they received your music?
It was great. I had never traveled to America before in my life, so [itās] my first time in America and Iām going on tour. I got to meet fans, like, āHow do people even know me?ā I was shocked.
BNXN [is] the best big brother in the entire world. He would always hype me up on stage and say, āEverybody say, āGo Madi! Go Madi!āā It was less of a performance and more of a family reunion. It felt great being on stage and knowing that music is beyond my geographical area. The world is actually paying attention.
Whatās your favorite place that youāve performed at, and why?
Uganda. It was my concert, and as a new artist, that is an insane thing to do. Having a whole country that Iāve never been to ā I donāt have any relatives from there, I donāt know anyone from there, itās a place that is so alien to me ā and receiving so much love, itās definitely a significant place in my mind.
Take me back through the making of your debut album I Am the Blueprint.
There are songs from different versions of me as a person. There are songs I wrote when I was 14, when I was 16, when I was 18. Iām 18 now. Itās like a letter to myself. The first record is called āBucket List.ā Itās me prophesying a bunch of things I want to achieve, and saying, āI hope I become that artist.ā And the last record is called āRight Here.ā Itās me being more confident and being like, āIām that artist.ā Itās a confirmation.
I Am the Blueprint is a journey of me growing to discover that I am the blueprint. It doesnāt start with so much confidence. It starts with this 14-year-old girl confirming that, āThis is who I am, this is who I believe I amā ā and it ends with this is who Iāve become.
Explain the blue motif thatās not only been central to I Am the Blueprint but your overall aesthetics, from your hair to your style.
According to my mom, Iāve loved blue since I was literally conscious. Itās funny, because I was born left-handed, so she would beat my hand and tell me, āNo, no, youāre doing things the wrong way. Youāre supposed to use your right hand. Pink is for girls.ā
I never changed. Every time, Iād be like, āI want it in blue.ā Whenever I talk about blue or I implement blue in my hair or my album, itās me putting in that little piece of me, that younger version of me, in everything Iām doing. If I have blue hair, Iām trying to say Chimamanda is still there. That blue is a remembrance of her. Ā
Love plays a paramount role in this album, from feeling that intense chemistry for the first time with someone special on āGoosebumpsā to questioning if your feelings are even valid or reciprocated on āItās a Game.ā Are you singing from personal experiences, or where does your source of inspiration come from?
Love songs are the easiest songs to write, because when I used to write for other artists, I prioritized putting myself in different peopleās situations because they were very specific. They would say, āI want to buy a love song about this,ā and tell you exactly what they wanted. I play with it sometimes. I have songs like āOleā that talk about wanting another personās partner. Iām like, āHow crazy would it be to talk about love from this perspective?ā So when it comes to love songs, itās just me playing with my imagination and trying to talk about love in every way possible because itās such a broad topic.
Considering this album reflects the emotional roller coaster that comes with being in a relationship, how did you figure out the sequencing of the tracks?
I purposefully arranged them to tell a story. We have āBucket List,ā āAli Bomayeā and āAkanchawa,ā and you can tell that slowly this person is growing from a very positive, energetic person to a very rage-filled person. From there, you slowly lurk into songs like āPressureā and āDamn It Allā that are so aggressive that youāre like, āWhere does she come from?ā In the beginning of the album, it was so welcoming and weāre just trying to lure you into this person who was so sweet and saw the world from this angle, and now sheās growing into realizing not everyone is as pure as she imagines.
Itās a journey of my emotions as a person and how Iāve seen life. The album sequencing is very intentional. I feel like we got the perfect arrangement to tell that story.
āAli Bomayeā is derived from the chant yelled during Muhammed Ali and George Foremanās 1974 match in Zaire (now called the Democratic Republic of Congo), also known as āThe Rumble in the Jungle.ā How did you find inspiration from that?
I learned that in school, and I was like, āThat is so tough.ā Having a word that is so significant to a violent sport put into love was something I thought would be so sick. Some people say, āYou knock me off my feet,ā like the wind. And Iām like, āYou knock me off my feet,ā because literally he knocked his opponent off. Itās wordplay for me ā and then, obviously, referencing the legend Muhammed Ali is. It shows how deep in knowledge I am about being descriptive about my love toward you.
If you grew up in Lagos, Lagos is such a busy place, everything is always on the go. The record āAli Bomayeā is about living in this place where thereās so much stress ā but when you meet that person, it just knocks you off your feet.
BNXN, Chloe and Kizz Daniel were all featured on the deluxe version of your self-titled EP last year. Why did you decide to not have any features on I Am the Blueprint?
With the album, I really wanted to be selfish. I wanted to show the world, āThis is about me. This is not about any other artist.ā There are so many artists that would have sounded so great with a lot of the records, but Iām more concerned about showing you who I am. Itās a statement, itās a movement, itās a whole confirmation. Thatās the artistic part of it.
On the business side, you could put a bunch of artists and say itās for promotion. But Iām a true artist ā I really care more about making sure that my message is heard and Iām able to accomplish the artistry Iām going for.
āBucket Listā mentions some things on your bucket list that you want to accomplish, like winning a Grammy and buying your mom a mansion. What else is on your bucket list?
Definitely tour. I want to go on tour so bad. There are so many countries Iāve never been to, and the fact that Iām not going as a regular person is intriguing to me. I want to meet my fans all over the world. I would try different aspects of art ā acting, maybe screenwriting.
Whatās been the biggest āpinch meā moment of your career so far?
Naomi Campbell followed me on Instagram. I was like, āNo freaking way!ā And then I saw she commented, and I was like, āOK, stop.ā It was a lot for me, because itās Naomi Campbell.
Who would you love to collaborate with this year?
I would love to collaborate with Wande Coal, Fave, Chris Brown, Billie Eilish. Kendrick Lamar. I would love to collaborate with him for sure.
Whatās next for Qing Madi in 2025?
More collaborations ā so many surprises that me and my team are working on. I canāt wait for the whole world to be a part of it.

Billboard is expanding its Rookie of the Month interview series by highlighting rising stars from more genres like dance and rock. But the new crop of artists emerging out of the African continent have continued making it clearer that their music can exist beyond the borders of āAfrobeatsā and should not be broadly and lackadaisically labeled as such. āIt has African intonations in it,ā Tems said of her genre-bending music during her Women in Music interview last year.
Like Tems, many African artists have discovered one-of-a-kind ways to express themselves that cannot fit into one box while staying true to their roots. And Billboard is dedicating a spotlight to them through our new African Rookie of the Month series, which weāre kicking off with Odeal for January 2025.
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Odeal hasnāt stuck to one lane during his entire artistic journey. The 25-year-old artist was born in Germany and raised in Spain, the U.K. and Nigeria before settling down in the U.K. when he was 17, shortly before he embarked on his solo career. His familiarity with global genres eventually paved the way for his boundary-pushing music ā even though he didnāt have the smoothest start.
Some of his older friends in the U.K. realized his propensity for music and encouraged a young Odeal (real name Hillary Dennis Udanoh) to make an original song at a studio in one of the youth clubs. He spent one evening after school there recording his first song and returned for a few days before the youth club shut down weeks later. When he moved to Awka, the capital of the Anambra State, Nigeria, at 14, Odealās father connected him to his cousin who always hung out at a studio. āIād literally sit and watch everyone come in and record because I wasnāt making their type of music. I was more into R&B. And they were like, āR&B doesnāt work over here,āā he tells Billboard. āI was watching different artists to see how they record, the way they pronounce things, the beats, their choice of melodies. By the end of the summer, I learned what moves people and what doesnāt.ā Ā
While attending boarding school, he downloaded FruityLoops onto one of the laptops in the IT suite and snuck the laptop back to his dorm room so he could make beats while everyone was asleep. After a student snitched and the laptop was confiscated, Odealās āproduction journey kind of ended there,ā he says. His cousin later advised him to spend time in Lagos so he could connect with producers and record music, where Odeal thought heād have yet another shot at making it.
āI didnāt break in Lagos,ā he recalls with a chuckle. āThat was just like a dream.ā At 17, he returned to London and witnessed the rise of Afroswing, an amalgamation of Afrobeats, dancehall and hip-hop created by the Afro-Caribbean diaspora in the U.K. Odeal immersed himself in the scene by joining a group called TMG, featuring other members Curtis J and Zilla, before they disbanded soon after.
Odeal embarked on his solo career in 2017 with the release of his debut EP New Time, but just a few months later, he became severely ill and spent the majority of November in the hospital. āIf I get out of here, I need to make sure that I make an impact as much as I can and give back to my fans so that I can leave a legacy,ā he remembers telling himself. Every November since then, Odeal has intentionally increased his musical output, from new singles to even OVMBR-branded EPs (2020ās Roses, 2021ās Hits No Mrs and 2022ās Maybe Iām Best Alone). In a similar vein to Drakeās OVO (Octoberās Very Own), Odealās OVMBR ā which stands for āOur Variances Make Us Bold and Relentlessā ā doesnāt just represent the artistās brand but has evolved into a movement that honors the individuality of his fanbase and even includes live events in Lagos, London, Berlin and Paris.
He heated things up last summer with Sunday at Zuriās, a sultry, smooth four-song EP that represents a Sunday well spent at a woman named Zuri Awelaās beach house in Lagos. The scintillating highlight āSoh-Sohā became the projectās breakout hit, scoring A-list co-signs from SZA, Ciara and Victoria MonĆ©t, earning a song of the year nomination at the 2025 MOBO Awards and reaching No. 12 on U.S. Afrobeats Songs and No. 33 on Rhythmic Airplay. Last November, Odeal continued his OVMBR tradition by releasing the critically acclaimed EP Lustropolis, a heart-wrenching expedition about strained love affairs that features the Aaliyah-interpolating single āTemptressā and āYouāre Stuckā collaboration with Summer Walker.
BillboardĀ spoke with Januaryās African Rookie of the Month about making certain types of music for specific seasons, going viral with āSoh-Soh,ā signing with LVRN and linking up with his labelmate Summer Walker on āYouāre Stuck.ā
How did your international upbringing impact the music you listen to and the music you make?
It made me understand different cultures and languages that people speak all over the world. It made me understand why other cultures like one style of music over another. So when making my music, I know exactly what to do and how to execute in a way that will resonate with certain people and the elements needed for it.Ā
How many languages do you speak? And how many languages do you typically sing in?
To be fair, Iāve sang in French before, but I donāt speak French like that. Iāve sang in Spanish before, but I donāt speak Spanish as well as I used to. I used to speak it fluently, and then as I grew up, it fizzled away. Iām still trying to get [German and Spanish] back because I really want to connect with my fans in their own language. Stuff just hits different when you speak a certain language ā the banter is different, the whole feeling is different.
Who were some of your favorite artists whom you grew up listening to?
Outside of Africa: Michael Jackson, CĆ©line Dion, Brandy, 2Pac, Biggie. Inside of Africa, Wizkid, Davido, 2Face, Olamide, P-Square, Mi Casa. When I was growing up around the ages of 14-15, we used to listen to [urban music channels] Trace Urban and Soundcity when I was in Nigeria, and we listened to a lot of South African music like Uhuru.
And what kind of music do you listen to now?
I listen to anything that feeds my soul. At the moment, Iāve been listening to a lot of Afro-house, amapiano, R&B.
What kind of sounds and styles does your music encompass?
Afro-fusion, altƩ and R&B.
A few days after you released Lustropolis, you tweeted āthe duality of manā and described Sunday at Zuriās as āAfrofusion/Alteā and Lustropolis as āR&B/Soul.ā Were you consciously thinking about genre when you were making both projects?
Itās definitely intentional. I normally make music seasonally. You need a theme song for your winter, and thatās what I feel like soul and R&B is for, when youāre inside and youāre in your feels. Itās more introspective. And for the summer, Iāll do Afro-fusion or Afrobeats or whatever experimental project for that season.
As someone who is as multidisciplinary as you in their approach to music, has it been difficult to find producers to help bring your unique sound to life? When I first interviewed Tems last year, she told me a major reason why she produces a lot of her own music is because she had a hard time being in studio sessions with other producers who just kept making Afrobeats. Iām curious if you had a similar experience.
Yeah 100%. The main reason why I started making music was because I wanted to hear something out there that was catered to me. Not being able to find something out there that fully embodied what I wanted, I had to start producing. But from making the music I have made, Iāve been able to meet a lot of incredible producers who are on the same page and want to experiment and explore and are ready for me to take the lead on where the sound should go.
Do you feel like itās becoming more acceptable/more the norm for artists with Nigerian backgrounds to make music outside of Afrobeats?
Yes, 100%. Shoutout to everyone whoās been able to break out of that stigma that Nigerian artists should only make Afrobeats, or African artists should only make Afrobeats. Weāre definitely capable of so much more and shouldnāt be boxed in.
Take me back through the making of both projects, starting with Sunday at Zuriās.
I needed a summer tape. I was working on a project prior to when I went over to Nigeria. A week before I left Nigeria, I scrapped the summer project, everything I encountered while being in Lagos around April, May last year led to the creation of Sunday at Zuriās.
On X, you wrote that Sunday at Zuriās was influenced by Zuri Awela. Who is she, and how do you know her?
Weāre calling her Zuri Awela, but she is someone that I spent time with in Lagos. I got to understand her background more of being South African and going to the beach houses in Lagos and having a good time. Having to leave Lagos and come back to the U.K., there was a certain feeling I had of having to detach from that situation. I made a story about that.
Was there one specific beach house you were spending time at, or were there multiple?
There were different beach houses. Oneās called Ilashe Beach House, thereās another one called Koko Beach. Ā
Out of the four songs on Sunday at Zuriās, why do you think āSoh-Sohā resonated the most?
The chorus is provocative, it gets you moving, singing. Itās a catchy chorus, but then the second verse is very R&B-esque. Thereās something about it, from the melodies and everything, that really resonated with people.Ā
Prior to the success of āSoh-Soh,ā when was the first time you remember a song going viral?
āVicious Cycle (Policeman)ā in 2019. I was in uni at the time. Iād wake up in the morning and record at the same time when people would be going to lectures. I started making the beat to āVicious Cycle,ā and then my boy came up and was like, āYo, this is sounding crazy.ā I laid the verse, it mustāve been before 12pm. I was done by 1, and then immediately, I posted a video of it on social media and it went off. Loads of people posting like, āYo, whenās this dropping?ā That was a moment.
Now take me back through the making of Lustropolis. How long did it take you to make it?
One or two of the songs were started earlier on in the year, and then the rest of them were made within a week or two.
You tweeted āZuriās absence paved the way to Lustropolis.ā Can you expand on that? How are your two latest projects connected?
There are two different feelings: When youāre happy in summer, youāre a completely different person than who you are in the winter and not in the best place. Being with Zuri in Lagos, I felt like it was paradise. And then leaving that situation and coming back to the U.K., and it being winter and Iām about to head on tour and go to all these places, it was kind of dark. Maneuvering through that dark space and uncertainty and living on the edge was Lustropolis. I personified that mind frame. It led me to a place where I was acting off impulse, off something not going right in the previous situation and being in this place of self-destruct mode.
How did you and Summer Walker come together on āYouāre Stuckā?
Her A&R and my A&R were in talks of having her on the record. They played it for her, and she loved it, she really wanted to be part of it. She brought her own perspective to it. I donāt really have many female features on my records, so it was really dope.
And then to link up with her in L.A. to do the video was another thing. She was really cool, down to earth. We went to the studio while I was out there, just working on a couple of things.
Youāve independently released your music through OVMBR, but you signed your first label deal with Warner Records UK in 2020. What was that adjustment like, from working on music on your own terms to working with a team?
It was more approvals. When youāre working independently, you can literally wake up in the morning, make a song and drop it tomorrow, which built most of the beginning of my career. But getting with a label, it was more like, āOK, you canāt just do that.ā Youāre working with a whole business now, and thereās an investment. You canāt be as spontaneous. That was the only difficulty. But apart from that, it was good because I understand now the importance of planning and preparation. If you want to operate on a global level and really scale, thereās certain things that you need to do.
How did you get acquainted with LVRN, and why was signing with them the right decision?
They reached out over a period of time. I really love their whole team structure. Just like OVMBR, itās a bunch of friends whoāve become family and they really care about quality, have their own story. It was deeper than one company over another company. We share similar values, and they were really huge fans of the music, which is what I always want people to lead with outside of everything else.
I saw you were in the studio with Kaytranada recently.
That was crazy. In terms of production, heās a huge inspiration. Getting in a session with him and really connecting over the music and sharing our taste, that was another thing.
Can we expect new music from you two anytime soon?
Iām not saying anything as of now, but hopefully. [Laughs.]
JayO posted some pictures of you two in Cape Town, and people in the comments were saying they need the joint project. Is that something you two have seriously discussed?
We actually do speak about it. Weāre like, āOK, if we were to put out a project, that would be dope.ā We donāt schedule sessions together. Weāre really good friends. Weāll be chilling and music is made, or weāre on holiday and we end up making something together. We like to live life and then see how it pours into the music.
Who would you love to collaborate with this year?
Iād say Tems, Billie Eilish, Rema, Wiz.
Whatās been the biggest āpinch meā moment of your career so far?
There were two moments, and they both happened the same day. I was at the British Fashion Awards, and Issa Rae was like, āThere he is.ā I was literally watching Insecure the day before. And she was like, āI absolutely love your music.ā She really loves how Iāve been blending genres, which told me she was really listening. It wasnāt just one song. I told her Iām a huge fan of her. And then literally moments later, Wiz was like, āYo, I love your music.ā I was like, āBro, this is actually insane.ā Those were two moments that were like, āThereās no way this is happening right now.ā
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