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Tony Winner Will Brill on Thanking His Therapist and Becoming a Bassist for ‘Stereophonic’

When Will Brill got home after winning his first Tony award, he was a little, well….spooked. “I was in bed and somebody texted me like, ‘How are you feeling?’” Brill recalls. “And I was suddenly hit with like, There’s a Tony in this house. It can’t be seen. It is lurking! So weird.”

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A week after winning best featured actor in a play for his performance in Stereophonic, Brill admits it still “feels a little weird.” His portrayal of Reg – the hilarious, endearing, and often frighteningly coke-and-booze-addled bass player in Stereophonic’s fictional 1970s rock band on the verge of mega stardom – made Brill the only cast member from the most-Tony-nominated-ever play to bring home hardware. But on Tony night, Brill made sure to give his full cast its due: in his delightfully off-the-cuff acceptance speech, he asked all his castmates to stand up for an ovation (he also, memorably, thanked his therapist).

Like his fellow Stereophonic cast members, Brill wasn’t an experienced, trained musician before joining the ensemble. But acquiring the skill to convincingly play one onstage (and perform the play’s Tony-nominated score by Will Butler there) was the kind of deep-dive experience Brill has long relished as an actor: His wide-ranging roles have included Dr. Astrov, in the hyper-intimate off-Broadway production of Uncle Vanya that took place in a private New York loft last year, as well as Roy Cohn in Showtime’s miniseries Fellow Travelers, and the peddler Ali Hakim in the 2019 Broadway reimagining of Oklahoma!.

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As Stereophonic continues its run on Broadway through Jan. 5, 2025, Brill spoke to Billboard about adding Reg to that list, as well as about his action-packed Tony night.

Have you started to come to terms with cohabitating with your Tony?

Sort of… I mean, people keep like asking, “Where are you going to put it?” I don’t know…. wherever it…looks good? Wherever it fits? Like, I had to put my bike in this one corner because that’s where it fit. I don’t have a lot of art in my house, and now I have this thing I’m like, obligated to display.

You have to put it somewhere unexpected, like the bathroom.

Totally. My idea, which I believe is a step too far, was to put it in the toilet. So it’s really a surprise to anybody who is using the bathroom. I have a buddy who keeps his in the fridge. And I heard that Ian McKellen keeps his many awards on his roof so that they can “rest.” I don’t know what that means, but that’s allegedly what he does.

Before we discuss anything else, I need the story of your ensemble for Tonys night: the pleats, the jewelry… it was a look!

I was working with a stylist, Savannah White, and we had bounced around a lot of ideas of stores and designers and we were largely on the same page: Vivienne Westwood, Thom Browne, Commes des Garcons, and Issey Miyake, who I didn’t really know of until he passed. I just saw an article about him and started Googling him and was really moved by his aesthetic.

So then Savannah came back with the two looks [of Miyake’s] that I wound up wearing. I was like, “Oh my God, this is so unlike anything I’ve seen, and I have to imagine it’s going to be totally unlike what anybody else is going to be wearing.” I wanted to be wearing something that wasn’t following a gender binary, and I feel like Issey’s stuff hangs on any human body beautifully. I felt really lucky that we sort of nailed it. Everything was sort of flowy and weird and off-kilter — and few straight lines except for the pleats themselves. It was really a fun fit.

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Will Brill accepts the Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Play award for Stereophonic onstage during The 77th Annual Tony Awards at David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center on June 16, 2024 in New York City.

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Your speech was iconic, to say the least. When you thanked your therapist, it became one of the most-memed moments of the night. How did you hear about that?

My PR person came up to me and was like, “The internet loved your speech.” And I was like, “Oh, that’s so nice. I just assumed that it was like, either the internet loves your speech or hates your speech — I had no idea that me shouting out my therapist was going to be any kind of a big deal or that shouting out the rest of my cast, for that matter, was going to be a big deal too. But they both sort of showed up everywhere. I got a really sweet text from my therapist that at first was all caps, “HOLY S–T, YOU WON! F–K YEAH!” And then, two minutes later, “Oh my God Will, this is so sweet,” which really made me happy.

You also gave a shoutout to your bass teacher. What was the process of learning the instrument like for you? You really get the physicality and personality of a bass player down, as well as the technical aspects, which seems uniquely challenging.

It was really important for me to look authentic. I had experience learning an instrument for a [project] before — I learned to play 12 songs on the guitar for this David Chase film Not Fade Away, and that’s actually where I met Robbie Mangano, who was in The Grandmothers of Invention and is an astonishing guitar and bass player. He taught me and Jack Huston how to play guitar for the movie.

But it was a different thing; we really just needed to look like we were playing the songs, which were pre-recorded by essentially the E Street Band. We didn’t actually have to play for sound, we just had to look like we knew what we were doing, and there were all sorts of ways to cut around the fact that we didn’t know what we were doing.

So for this show, I called Robbie to help me learn the bass. But Robbie was also weirdly at the intersection of my life where I started to think about sobriety, which is like another huge part of Reg. I got really drunk at a show of Robbie’s, and he wrote me this two-page letter, where he was like, “I’ve seen too many talented people not have the life that they should because they got caught up with drugs and alcohol, and I really believe in you and I count you as a friend and I hope that that would not be something that happened to you.”

At the time I couldn’t hear it, and I actually wound up not talking to him for several years because I was so embarrassed. Years and years later, I got a divorce and then I got sober and then [Stereophonic] came back around. So by the time I called Robbie to start learning the bass again, I was two years sober and got to tell him that he was a big part of that. And he wound up saying to me, “Wow, that’s crazy. I am recently sober too.” It was really crazy and moving. So he’s been a very special touchstone in my life.


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Great bass players especially seem to have this innate comfort in your own skin. Was that natural for you to achieve or more of a journey?

It was a journey, for sure. But what was cool was, when I was a little kid, I thought I was going to be a magician. I would practice card tricks alone in my room for literally 12 hours a day. I didn’t pursue magic because it was too scary to perform in front of people these things that required incredible dexterity. But when I started learning the bass, it triggered this long dormant part of my brain, which was like the joy of doing something dexterous 1000 times alone in your bedroom and losing sleep over it and trying to perfect this one thing and getting closer and closer. So I really felt like I was practicing magic again.

You and your castmates opened for Will Butler at his own actual album release show just a few weeks after previews for Stereophonic started. What was that like?

It was insane. A lot of people took videos with their phones and sent them to me afterward, and I was so embarrassed at how stiff and terrible I was that I was like, “Okay, you don’t have to just get good at the bass, you have to look amazing, you have to be able to dance and play the bass at the same time.” It still never feels like it’s easy, but it’s cool to have audiences come now and say that it looks like it’s easy, because that’s sort of the goal.

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From left: Tom Pecinka, Will Brill and Sarah Pidgeon in Stereophonic.

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Were there particular bass players who were models for your portrayal of Reg?

I definitely watched videos of John McVie playing. Will Butler is the only frontman I can think of off the top of my head who also plays bass, and he is so dance-y in his shows — he’s so free, he’s a true wild man on stage, and he was really a big source of inspiration.

I went to see Muna recently, and the band that opened for them [Nova Twins], it was these two British girls playing kind of hardcore music and dressed up sort of like punk-style Raggedy Ann. The bassist would jump around and run around the stage, and I remember thinking like, “I want to get close to that and I want to have that freedom of movement.” Other than that, learning the instrument was so hard and learning the play was so hard that there was not really a lot of room outside your imagination to do extra research.

This seems like such a lightning in a bottle kind of experience for all of you. Has it in any fundamental ways changed what you want from the work you do going forward?

Yeah, for sure — but I think every role I play, to a certain extent, is a reassessment of what I want to do going forward. The ultimate thing that I love about performing and exploring characters is exploring the different the levels of myself that I don’t know completely or understand and by extrapolation exploring the human condition more and more deeply.

I was just talking about this in therapy today, actually. Like, I’m constantly straddling a line: Am I doing justice to myself and the role that I’m playing by putting in an amount of effort that actually does meaningful excavation for myself and for the people coming? Or should I be resting a little bit more, and can the process be easier and more joyful?

I would say the peddler in Oklahoma! was a more joyful than difficult experience for me; probably A Case For The Existence of God was too and probably Fellow Travelers was a little more joyful than it was difficult. And then Uncle Vanya and this have both really ridden on the cusp of joy and difficulty. They have been the most challenging experiences of my life, but also deeply, deeply gratifying.

Kelsea Ballerini Shares Text She Sent Noah Kahan Asking Him to Collaborate on ‘Cowboys Cry Too’

Kelsea Ballerini and Noah Kahan‘s partnership on “Cowboys Cry Too” started out with a simple text. And in honor of the twangy slow-jam arriving Friday (June 28), the former shared exactly how she reached out to the latter to get him to agree to the collaboration — not that it took much convincing.

According to a screenshot posted to Ballerini’s Instagram, the “Peter Pan” singer reached out to her duet partner mid-April. “i’m making my record and have a song i think could evolve into a true duet that i just haddd to send to you,” she sent him. “it would need your perspective rewritten in the second verse and fingerprints on it, but i think having both sides could be really special.”

“you know im such a fan and i know you’ve got a million things going on so if you don’t have the space right now i totally understand, but you’re my first text,” Ballerini added in her message to Kahan, who responded just an hour later: “Oh man I am so so honored you even thought of me.. you are amazing this is a dream come true!!”

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The pair jumped into the studio together shortly afterward, as documented in a few behind-the-scenes pictures Ballerini included in her post. In one selfie, she smiles as Kahan records vocals behind her; in another photo, he smiles at the camera while strumming his guitar.



“in a world that says ‘saddle up and be a man’, i hope this song finds you in your humanness,” the Tennessee native captioned her post. “thank you @noahkahanmusic for adding your uninhibited perspective and songwriting brilliance into this song. (LIKE CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE SECOND VERSE YALL?!?) i couldn’t be more proud to put this music and message out alongside such a lovely artist and friend.”

The two stars first teased their collaboration in May, when the “Dial Drunk” singer joined Ballerini for a joint performance of his Billboard Hot 100 top 10 hit “Stick Season” and her 2023 ballad “Mountain With a View.” They announced “Cowboys Cry Too” just two days before it dropped, with Ballerini writing, “so proud and excited to release this first song in a new chapter of music” on social media and Kahan replying, “Can’t wait for this.”

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Donald Trump Mentions Black Jobs, X Asks What Donny Felon Really Meant

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Donald Trump, who is eyeing a return to the White House on behalf of the Republican Party, is no champion for Black Americans but that doesn’t stop the former president from making the failed connection. Donny Felon debated President Joe Biden on Thursday (June 27), and made mention of Black jobs being stolen by illegal immigrants in a failed attempt to dress down the current administration’s policy on immigration.

During a debate that was a train wreck for both sides, Donald Trump and President Joe Biden locked horns at the CNN Presidential Debate in Atlanta Thursday night. At times, the debate focused on one of the major critiques of the respective candidates, their age. From the onset, Biden sounded listless and tired while Trump remained in attack mode despite the fact he is a convicted felon hangs over him.

As noted by NewsOne, Dana Bash, who was moderating the debate with Jake Tapper, raised the Black vote and how the populace’s dissatisfaction with the current administration. Biden replied that Black voters have a right to those feelings, opening the door for Trump to make an appeal to the base using a lazy and untrue tactic.

“His big kill on the Black people is the millions of people that he’s allowed to come in through the border. They’re taking Black jobs now,” Trump said during the debate, sparking the trending topic on X.

As it stands, X, formerly Twitter, seized on the quip and has been firing off various jokes and replies. We’ve got the best of those replies below.

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Manuel Turizo’s Heartfelt Ballad ‘Dios Te Cuide,’ & More New Music Latin

New Music Latin is a compilation of the best new Latin songs and albums recommended by Billboard‘s Latin and Billboard Español editors. Check out this week’s picks below.

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Manuel Turizo, “Dios Te Cuide” (La Industria Inc.)



After making us dance bachata and merengue, Manuel Turizo — fresh from receiving the SESAC Latina Music Award for songwriter of the year, pop/Latin rhythm, with his brother Julián — continues to show his versatility with a moving ballad about heartbreak. Produced by Rafa Rodríguez, and driven primarily by a guitar and the Colombian singer’s husky, penetrating voice, “Dios Te Cuide” is a mature declaration of love and resilience after a breakup. “May God take care of you baby, may he keep you/ And may he forget, baby, where he kept you/ So that you don’t break my heart again,” Turizo sings with pathos in the chorus. Accompanied by an introspective music video that captures the feeling of loneliness that comes with a breakup, “Dios Te Cuide” will be featured on Turizo’s upcoming fourth studio album, 201, which he plans to release later this year. — SIGAL RATNER-ARIAS

Xavi, “OOTD” (Interscope Records)

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Ever since having a major breakthrough with songs-turned-anthems “La Diabla” and “La Víctima,” Xavi has kept the momentum going this year, dropping “Corazón de Piedra,” which topped the Regional Mexican Airplay Chart in May. Now, he’s blessed fans with the new single “OOTD” — which, while staying true to that tumbados románticos signature style he’s known for, also drifts a bit more uptempo. Still powered by striking requinto guitars and his raspy and commanding vocals, “OOTD” stands out for an upbeat, head-bobbing melody that almost softens Xavi’s vocals. The single is a preview of what’s to come, as Xavi is currently in the studio working on an upcoming album. — GRISELDA FLORES

Buscabulla, “11:11” (Domino Recording)



Puerto Rican duo Buscabulla, composed of Raquel Berrios and Luis Del Valle, dropped “11:11,” marking their first single in four years. The track, a kitschy electronic pop outing, draws its name from the angel number that emphasizes the brevity of life. The song explores the theme of purpose and fulfillment, with lyrics like “Ya no puedo, baby, acabar lo que empecé/ A veces me quiero escapar/ El momento se me va/ Y no se si pa’ volver,” delivered in Berrios’ ethereal vocal style. Their return follows collaborations with Alex Anwandter on the disco-pop track “Mi Vida en Llamas” (2023), Bad Bunny on the high-profile “Andrea” (2022), and their own debut album Regresa (2020). The accompanying video, directed by Jorge “Fish” Rodriguez, features Berrios in a stage-built, stark white house, performing a compulsive cleaning, adding a layer of performative art to the release. — ISABELA RAYGOZA

Maria Becerra, Trueno & Big One, “Cuando Te Vi” (Fifty One)



Argentine hitmaker Big One has unleashed a five-track EP with five major “crossovers.” His latest creation is “Cuando Te Vi | Crossover #5,” in collaboration with Maria Becerra and Trueno. A first joint effort, the futuristic and edgy reggaetón track blends Becerra’s dulcet, melodious vocals with Trueno’s impeccable and effortless rap bars. Lyrically, the song narrates a conversation between two people: one who promised to not fall in love, and the other who doubts it. “When I saw you, I knew it was going to happen/ I promised not to fall in love/but f*ck that, I love that body/ You did it so good, I had to call back,” chants the Argentine artist, who also flaunts her English-singing skills on the track. — JESSICA ROIZ

Alvaro Soler, “Te imaginaba” (Epic Local) 



The Spanish-German singer-songwriter Alvaro Soler releases a song with a classic romanticism that celebrates an innocent love. The song is an acoustic pop jam with an island feel, perfect for this warm season of the year. “I imagined you/ Having breakfast kisses in bed/ Waking up next to you every morning/ And if we fight, let it be with the pillow/ As I imagined you” says the chorus of the tender song. The song is accompanied by a visualizer where you can see Soler singing in front of the camera while he walks through beautiful landscapes. The ideal song for someone newly in love, who may end up at an altar. — LUISA CALLE

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Taylor Swift Receives Flowers (And a Request) From U2 As The Eras Tour Hits Dublin

Taylor Swift is gearing up to play three shows in Dublin as part of The Eras Tour, and she’s getting some love from Ireland‘s most famous rockers as she plays their hometown.

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On Friday (June 28), Swift shared on her Instagram Stories a photo of the flowers and a sweet note that she received from iconic rock band U2.

Alongside a bouquet of white, pink and purple roses and lilies was a card that read, “Dear Taylor, welcome back to our hometown…leave some of it standing?!!!!”

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The note was signed, “Your Irish fan club, Bono, Edge, Adam and Larry.”

On her Instagram Stories, Swift responded by captioning her post with “Already feeling that Irish hospitality!! @u2, thanks for always being the classiest & coolest.” Swift also included an Irish flag emoji.

The note came as Swift is set to perform three shows at Dublin’s Aviva Stadium on June 28-30. Paramore will open each of the shows.

Swift has seen numerous artists and celebrities in attendance at her The Eras Tour shows. Beatles legend Paul McCartney recently danced with fans at one of Swift’s concerts at London’s Wembley Stadium, while others who have attended The Eras Tour include Shania Twain, Haim, Diplo, Selena Gomez, Billy Joel, Keith Urban, Nicole Kidman and Maren Morris.

Following her Ireland concerts, Swift’s tour itinerary through the rest of 2024 includes stops in Amsterdam, Milan, Munich, London, Toronto and Vancouver.

Meanwhile, Swift’s The Tortured Poets Department spends its ninth week at No. 1 on the Billboard 200. The album marks her 14th project to top the Billboard 200.

LISA Spotlights Three Trans Influencers in Her ‘Rockstar’ Music Video: Fans React

With a boistrous new singe under her belt, LISA of BLACKPINK is proudly stepping out on her own — and she’s bringing a few Thai influencers with her.

Eagle-eyed fans noticed three transgender influencers — Chinnawat Promsri, Bruze Kachi-sarah and Aëffy — featured throughout the clip. Alongside shots of LISA dancing her way through Bangkok, the three influencers appear throughout the video to pose for the camera dressed in their best evening wear.

Chinnawat Promsri — known to her fans as Chinni — is best known for sharing viral videos of herself speaking about her experience as a trans woman living in Thailand. Bruze Kachi-sarah, meanwhile, recently earned the title of first runner-up in Miss Tiffany 2024, a long-running beauty pageant in Thailand for trans women. Finally, Aëffy works with Thai media organization GMMTV, and regularly posts photos from the GMMTV set on her Instagram. All three posted clips of the “Rockstar” video to Instagram Stories after the video’s release.

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Fans were quick to point out the excellent timing of LISA’s new music video — earlier this month, Thailand’s senate passed a landmark piece of legislation legalizing same-sex marriage, making it the first Southeast Asian country to do so. “Lisa putting the spotlight on the LGBTQ community & her home is so so special to me,” one fan wrote on X. Another added: “THE LGBTQIA+ REPRESENTATION????????? SHE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO DO SUCH S–T IN THE KPOP WORLD. LISA THE WOMAN THAT YOU ARE.”

The new video and song arrives after LISA signed a blockbuster solo deal with RCA Records back in April. “I’m super excited to be joining the RCA family, and I am confident they are the best team to create a bigger movement in my solo career,” she said in a statement at the time. “Looking forward to showing the world everything we have been preparing.”

Check out LISA’s new music video for “Rockstar,” as well as fans’ reactions to her LGBTQ+ inclusion, below.



Pharrell Williams & Louis Vuitton Sued Over ‘Pocket Socks’ by Small Company With Same Name

Pharrell Williams and Louis Vuitton are facing a lawsuit over their launch of a high-end line of “Pocket Socks,” filed by a California company that says it’s been using that same name for more than a decade on a similar product.

In a case filed last week in Los Angeles federal court, Pocket Socks Inc. says the luxury brand’s product — a literal sock-with-a-pocket that launched at Paris Fashion Week last year and sells for the whopping price of $530 — infringes its existing trademark rights to the name.

“Much attention and publicity has been generated for Louis Vuitton’s ‘Pocket Socks,’ including defendants, the press, and consumers using the name ‘Pocket Socks’ for their product which irreparably injures Pocket Socks’ longstanding brand and trademark rights,” the company’s lawyers write in the June 20 complaint.

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Louis Vuitton announced in February 2023 that Williams would serve as the company’s men’s creative director, and he debuted his first line for the company later that year at Men’s Fashion Week in Paris.

One of the items apparently rolled out at last year’s event was the Pocket Socks — a pair of knitted socks that feature a pocket adorned with a pearl. The socks received some notoriety in January when Jermaine Dupri was razzed on social media for wearing them during his Super Bowl halftime performance. Though currently unavailable for purchase, the socks are listed on Louis Vuitton’s UK website for £420 — roughly $530 in U.S. dollars.

Louis Vuitton’s new product didn’t sit well with Pocket Socks Inc., which says it’s been using that exact same name since 2012 for its own line of socks that feature a zippered pocket sewn into each pair. In its lawsuit, the company says it owns several federal trademark registrations for the brand and that the new product clearly infringes those rights.

In a statement announcing the new lawsuit, Pocket Socks Inc. claims Louis Vuitton’s new line “threatens to undermine the hard work and dedication” that has gone into building the brand: “This massive luxury brand and their designer Pharrell Williams should know better and behave within the law,” said CEO Evan Papel.

In technical terms, the lawsuit accuses Williams and Louis Vuitton of infringing both the trademark to the name as well as the so-called “trade dress” — meaning the actual look of the product. The sale of similar-looking socks under the same name is “likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive consumers,” the lawsuit claims.

As the case moves forward, one possible defense argument from Williams and Louis Vuitton could be that the name Pocket Socks is too “descriptive” to serve as a trademark. Under U.S. trademark law, terms that merely describe the goods or services being sold cannot be locked up as an exclusive brand name.

Neither a rep Williams nor Louis Vuitton immediately returned requests for comment.

The Power Of Amazon Music’s Phylicia Fant & “The Pivot”: Black Music Month Exclusive

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In an exclusive interview with Amazon Music’s Phylicia Fant, HipHopWired got to talk about her love of music, her career journey and her motivation.

As Black Music Month is underway, we have an appreciation of the artists who bring us the music that we remember as well as those who’ve worked to support those artists in their careers through their own visionary efforts. Phylicia Fant, who is currently serving as the head of music industry partnerships at Amazon Music, is definitely one of those figures.

Before taking that role the Marietta, Georgia, native forged a sterling career as the former head of urban music at Columbia Records and the vice president of publicity and lifestyle at Warner Records after rising as a public relations genius working with numerous artists including Erykah Badu and Amy Winehouse with her firm, The Purple Agency, in 2008. HipHopWired got the opportunity to speak to Phylicia Fant about the significance of music, the connections, and how it helped her understand and utilize “the pivot” on her career journey.

HipHopWired: What was your first moment of true connection with music? And how did that love direct you to work in the music industry through public relations?

Phylicia Fant: I think true connection always comes from—I won’t say always, but I think if you grew up in the church, then you’re connected to music in the church. That is something that I think when parents are trying to find activities for you to do. My dad is a deacon, and my mom is a deaconess. My great-grandmother on my dad’s side was a pastor, which was rare for females in the South. So music was always kind of in your life. Now, I can’t sing at all. [Laughs] Okay, I will make sure I say that. But you know, they’re always nice to kids.

But what you recognize in those moments is a certain emotion. Even if you’re not the best singer, there’s nothing like that energy where you get up, you sing in front of the church, and they support you, right? It’s that kind of conversation. And then when the soloist comes out, and they bring people to tears, you understand the effects of music in that way. That’s the immersive experience.

My dad played piano as well, so he would have vinyl in my room growing up. And then my first concert was seeing Michael Jackson with my parents. So I’ve always had parents who kind of kept me in different spaces of music and culture, and I think between church, between the vinyl that was placed in my room strategically, which was Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder, and the first Sugar Hill Gang record, those are the kinds of ways you will discover music though you may not understand it [then].

What I’ve learned over time is the importance of the pivot and how many times I have pivoted, but at the same time, within those pivots, how I still am true to what I love at my core.

How’s it been so far in your role at Amazon Music in terms of expanding all that the platform has to offer? What challenges and successes have you faced?

I always get nervous with the word challenges, because I think they are more or less about challenges than pushing yourself into a different thought process, right? If you grew up in the label system like I did, then it’s always been very much art as sport, right? So how do I relate to an artist who has to deal with criticism, has to deal with their own personal schedules, their own personal lives? How do I build trust with that artist? So the trust factor kind of leads me into the Amazon conversation in that, while we are a tech company, the principle is to make sure we are making sure the consumer is happy. 

So, the consumer being the person that’s listening to the music, but also the consumer, as I think we expand that definition to the artists and to the people that we collaborate with, to have a symbiotic relationship of how data and music can come together for the greater good of how we expand music for people. So the benefit of me being on this side is, while I am always “artist first” and have been, it’s great for me to know what products are being made to make that experience that much better. And that’s not something I’ve really thought about until I got here, right? You look at it as, “Oh, it’s just streaming.” But then you realize it’s much more than streaming.

How you share music, or how you use music, what technology is, is created for you to be able to have that maximum experience to even think about what it means to actually collect music and create a playlist. I wasn’t thinking about that type of conversation inside a tech company. You just think these things are there. And because they’re there, when you recognize what it takes to get these things off the ground, there becomes a respect for the type of collaboration behind the scenes that makes your music experience seamless.

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So that takes me to this next question in terms of your path and being a Black woman who’s carved out such a brilliant path in the industry. For those that are coming up, what’s the most important thing to you that you share with those who inquire about making their own way?

It’s funny because I just got off the phone with one of my mentees, and she was talking about how she loves sports and how she doesn’t know how to get into sports. I said that what I’ve learned over time is the importance of the pivot and how many times I have pivoted, but at the same time, within those pivots, how I still am true to what I love at my core. At the core, I love music. And what you recognize in loving music is that the music extends to different places.

So my career evolved, because I recognize where music could take me. It wasn’t just within the walls of a concert, it was now in the walls of an arena, it was Fashion Week, first row. Taking people like JoJo and Lindsay Lohan to fashion week, when the city was at its peak and living in New York, you recognize different ways to use it to carry you in different spaces. 

And so once you realize that your core passion can also expand those doors, and you don’t see it as a linear situation, then the pivot becomes more fascinating. It doesn’t become easier. But it becomes fascinating in the sense of, “Oh, I can take this thing that I love, I can open up different doors.” I can understand music from a seat perspective and see what it’s like to have a song placed on television.

Because now I understand how music works in film. I understand music works with intelligence. “Oh, I can get this artist’s song played in the stadium, like Lil Nas X, and see how people react. And see this song becomes a chance for Texas Tech before they get ready to play the game because it pumps them up. I can look at who was curating music for fashion shows when I was in New York. So it still stems from music. But music opened doors for me to go into all these different spaces because I recognize music is universal for a reason.

It is Black Music Month, and I couldn’t end this interview without asking you for your favorite artists that we should be checking for if we aren’t already – like what would be on your select playlist?

It’s such a unique thing because I think about – like, I love Andra Day because I think she has a richness. I worked with Amy Winehouse and I think the ability to blend jazz and R&B and all those conversations is great. But I also love Tommy Richmond’s new song “Million Dollar Baby” because I love what the HBCUs and the Divine Nine’s step teams have done with that song and how you can take one song and it becomes a movement and become also a self-esteem booster at the same time. So there’s different artists I think for different reasons, different moods that I really like. I gotta think about that. 

I think that people don’t know this artist named Q live on Columbia Records, who’s R&B. I think Durand [Bernarr], you might know him as a backup vocalist like I do, but his voice is just rich. It’s absolutely phenomenal. I’m really proud of the R&B space, like Muni Long – even though the song became viral on TikTok I like her ability to be bold and kind of say what’s on people’s minds, which is why I think I’m excited about music right now where I think a couple of years ago, I was frustrated because I do think we are looking for our next superstars. 

But, you know, I’m also an old-school girl. Never gonna not want to hear Marvin Gaye and Prince. They inspire me all the time. Those are staples on my playlist as well as Stevie Wonder. It’s just a place to take me to. I love Mariah Carey, you know, I’ll never not love her. So I think it’s that constant lens of past, present, and future, which I think is ironic because of our campaign which is called “Forever The Influence.” And if you think about people like Uncle Charlie [Wilson], who will pop up on a Don Tolliver record, who I also love. So I think it will always be a combination of past, present, and future, and I’m excited about the future, but these are the artists that have stuck out to me.

Diddy Quietly Drops $60 Million Sean John Lawsuit

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Diddy has reportedly dropped his lawsuit against the company that acquired his Sean John clothing line a few years ago.

According to reports, Diddy has filed a joint dismissal notice to end his ongoing lawsuit against Global Brands Group (GBG) over their unauthorized usage of his likeness and name to promote their Sean John clothing collection. The motion was filed last Friday (June 21) with both parties agreeing. Diddy had sold 90% of his stake in the company that he founded in 1998 to GBG back in 2016 for $70 million. Sean John’s estimated worth at the time was $450 million. But afterward, he would go on to accuse GBG of using his name and likeness to promote the clothing without his express permission, specifically pointing to their use of his “Vote or Die” slogan that he had trademarked in addition to the company allegedly ignoring a cease-and-desist letter from him sent in 2020.

Diddy, aka Sean Combs, would file multiple lawsuits against GBG in February 2021 on those issues. He’d go on to secure the rights back to the Sean John brand later that year for $7.5 after GBG filed for bankruptcy. However, he persisted with his litigation, initially seeking $60 million. Further details on an alleged agreement between him and GBG were not publicized, but the dismissal notice does not prevent Diddy from filing more lawsuits against GBG in the future, stating “all remain expressly reserved and preserved.”

The news comes as Diddy is dealing with multiple lawsuits levied against him dating back to last November after his ex-partner, Cassie Ventura initially sued him for sexual assault and abuse. Ventura would agree to a settlement with Diddy, but that opened up a path for similar lawsuits. Since then, his homes in Los Angeles and Miami were raided by federal officials concerning an ongoing investigation. The 54-year-old artist and mogul also recently relinquished the key to New York City that he was given by Mayor Eric Adams in addition to giving up his ownership stake at REVOLT and having his honorary degree from Howard University rescinded.

Ethel Cain Pauses Central Park Concert to Help Multiple Fans In Need of Assistance

Ethel Cain‘s performance in Central Park as part of SummerStage’s concert series largely went off without a hitch Thursday evening (June 28), with the 26-year-old musician performing a slew of mellow tracks and closing with a rousing encore of “American Teenager” and a cover of the Kim Carnes’ version of “Bette Davis Eyes.” But there was one bizarre moment that occurred midway through, with four to five people requiring medical assistance within a few minutes of each other during the same song.

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Just before launching into her ambient, unreleased song “Amber Waves,” Cain asked her audience to close their eyes and stand still to feel the energy of the song rippling through them. Some concertgoers may have taken her instructions too seriously, though, and locked their knees while listening, as a few appeared to pass out and/or suddenly require help all at once across several different spots in the crowd.

Other relevant factors: the temperature of the outdoor event was somewhere in the high 70s, according to National Weather Service, though drinks were available at concession stands. The sold-out space was fully packed as well, with a staff member instructing concertgoers before the show began to refrain from sitting down on the ground in order to make sure everyone could fit.

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When she noticed people needing aid, Cain stopped her performance in its tracks and directed medics to the spots they were needed. She also called on SummerStage workers to hand out waters, which they obliged, and at least one person was walked out of the venue by staff.

“Does anybody else need water?” the Florida native asked her audience patiently before starting “Amber Waves” from the top. “Is everyone good, is anyone feeling faint?”

Billboard has reached out to SummerStage’s rep for comment.

Cain is currently slated to tour throughout the end of September, when she’ll return to New York for the All Things Go music festival. Her debut record, Preacher’s Daughter, was one of Billboard‘s top 50 albums of 2022.

The rapid-fire incidents at Cain’s show are just the latest examples in what seems to be an upward trend of people fainting since live performances returned post-pandemic. Last year, fellow folk-rock star Maggie Rogers issued a PSA to fans about the importance of staying hydrated at concerts, noting in a TikTok video, “Something is happening on this tour that we have never ever experienced before, which is that we’re seeing more people than ever either pass out or have panic attacks in the audience.”

“Obviously, it’s been a really long time since we’ve been in crowds, and concerts may not be the most natural space after a couple of years we’ve spent in the pandemic,” she added at the time. “If you’re coming to a show, please stay hydrated, try not to lock your knees if you’re standing for a really long time, take some breaks, and just do everything you can to keep everyone safe and healthy around you.”

Watch Cain handle the pauses in her show below.